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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: Dvr. A/Sgt. James Esson |
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James Esson served for four years with 1st Gordons and saw service in SA 1901-2 with the rank of Cpl.
He married a widow, Ethel Eliza Clay in December 1911. They lived at Lockside, Stalybridge. He served as T1802 ASC (T) and was embodied in June 1915 and posted as Acting Sgt. He had the rank of Acting CSM ( unpaid ) from 5th May 1916 to 14th October 1916.
A/ Sgt Esson landed at Havre in July 1917 . There is extensive internal correspondence, and with his widow, regarding this man's rank but it is clear from offficial records he reverted to Acting Sgt in October 1916 on being transferred, long before he was posted missing and a POW on 30th Nov 1917.
He died of heart failure (GSW wounds to shoulder and chest) at the Fortress Hospital Leige at 7.00 am on 15th December 1917 having been moved there from Le Cateau POW Hospital earlier that day. He was buried at Robermont Cemetery on the 19th.
The confusion regarding his rank will have existed at the time of the news item, explaining why it and the memorial are wrong. _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: Still looking for info |
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One thing that I am wondering about the family on Robert's (James's brother) attestation paperwork it says address of father Ballyclaire, Co Antrim, Ireland.
NoK given in the local papers was Mother Mrs R Esson.
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Kenneth Morrison
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 7761 Location: Rockcliffe Dalbeattie
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure that there is a connection (apart from the surname) but the Saskatchewan Virtual War Memorial http://svwm.ca/casualty-display/?ID=A000001765 lists 2 Essons one of which is Thomas Scott Esson Pte. 925989 5th CIF Died 15/8/1917. His father is identified as Robert Esson of Glassel, Aberdeenshire. On his attestation papers his NoK is sister Annie of Clarak Dinnet (sic) Aberdeenshire _________________ Ken |
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't this turning out to be absolutely intruiging and great fun!
I think Robert Esson was the brother of James - between stuff that Anne found (shipping records etc) and things that I found - it looks to be too much of a co-incidence that they weren't.
I've got some wee bits and pieces to add to all my notes, but once complete, I'll add a precis onto this thread.
Anne - do you have a copy of James' Birth Registration and if so, can I have a copy please.
Jim - do you have a copy of the 1901 and/or 1911 Census Returns and if so, can I have copies please.
Ken - haven't found a connection to a Thomas ........ YET!
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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The following is a summary in date order of James Esson's short life:
1885 October 18th, Born at Peterculter, son of Robert Esson & Ann Simpson
1899 Arrives in France to take part in Highland Games, Paris International Exposition
1891, April 6th, Census. Family living at St. Peter’s Terrace, Peterculter.
1901, April 1st, Census. Family living at 192 Broad Street, Denny
1901 – 1902, Served with 1st Gordon Highlanders in South Africa (Age 15-16)
1908 Win Lonsdale Challenge Cup at Alhambra, London
1909, November 10th, Arrives in New York from Queenstown, Ireland, lists nok as mother Mrs. R. Esson, 6 Broad Street, Denny
1909, December 18th, Chicago Athletic Association, Chicago, Illinois. Wins fight against ‘Mysterious Conductor’
1909, December 14th, Chicago Colliseum, Chicago, Illinois. Wins fight against Jim Gavin
1910, January 1st, Chicago Colliseum, Chicago, Illinois. Wins fight against Frank Gotch
1910, February 9th, Chicago, Illinois. Wins fight against Charles Cutler
1910, February 12th, Chicago Athletic Asociation, Chicago, Illinois. Fight against Pat Connolly, winner unknown
1910, February 14th, Chicago Colliseum, Chicago, Illinois. Wins fight against Raoul de Rouen
1910, February 23rd, Chicago, Illinois. Wins fight against Emil Klank
1910, February 28th, Chicago Colliseum, Chicago, Illinois. Loses World Heavyweight Title to Frank Gotch
1910, March 19th, Chicago Athletic Association, Chicago, Illinois, Loss fight against Charles Cutler
1911, December 23rd, Married Ethel Eliza Clay at Liverpool (Age 26)
1913, November 28th, Paris, Ille-de-France, France. Wins fight against Jack Johnson
1914, July 24th, Arrives in Mitchigan (to join brother Robert Esson), lists nok as Wife Ethel Eliza Esson, Stalybridge
1914, November 18th, Montreal, Canada. Wins fight against Ben Roller
1914, December , Arrives in U.S. from Canada, occupation Wrestler, lists nok as wife Ethel Eliza Esson, Stalybridge
1915, March, Arrives in U.S. from Canada, occupation Wrestler, lists nok as wife Ethel Eliza Esson, Stalybridge
1915, May 28th, Arrives in Liverpool from U.S., occupation Westler. address: Lockside, Stalybridge
1915, June 16th, Attested at Manchester, ASC (Age 29 years 8 months)
1917, December 14th, Died on gunshot wounds at Le Cateau P.O.W. Hospital
1917, December 19th, Buried at Robermont Cemetery, Liege
1918, March 9th, Obituary in Falkirk Herald
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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:34 pm Post subject: Dvr. A/Sgt. James Esson |
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He died at Liege Fortress Hospital of heart failure linked to GSW on 15th December having been moved there from Le Cateau on the same date.
Will send Census info to you direct. _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
www.kinnethmont.co.uk
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I read the above as he died at Le Cateau on the 14th, his remains were taken to Liege on the 15th where he was subsequently buried at Robermont?
His date of burial appears somewhere else on his records which I can't pinpoint just now.
Thanks for the 1911 Census image, I look forward to seeing it and adding another wee date of the time-line.
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Found the bit I was looking for:
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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: Dvr. A/Sgt. James Esson |
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Found the bit I was looking for: |
Clearly there was some date confusion at the time as the service record details 14th December in some areas and this War Offfice letter of August 1918 is correcting the earlier War Office list report report giving the date as 14th December.
At the bottom of the letter copied it states the recent German Government reply to their enquiry confirms death the 15th and this ties with CWGC. It states " He died on 15th December at 7AM from heart failure ..."
BC and Census info sent _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: Extra info for timeline |
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Boer War Medals for
Paardeberg 18 Feb 1900
Belfast 13 Nov 1900 |
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:56 am Post subject: James Esson giving his age as 19 in 31 March 1901 Census |
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Name: James Esson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Aldershot Military in Stanhope and Wellington Lines
Ecclesiastical parish: Aldershot St Michael
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Third Gordon Highlanders Imperial Yeomanry |
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Kenneth Morrison
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 7761 Location: Rockcliffe Dalbeattie
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Just a week ago Anne wrote:
I can't find anything about this man - any takers/suggestions?
Looking back over the three pages I'm astonished at what's been found.
Well done everyone _and I have a feeling you're not done yet. _________________ Ken |
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 21200 Location: Aberdeen
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: We could find more if anyone can look The Times..... |
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I managed to look at The Scotsman but today could not find a way into The Times does anyone out there have the know how? |
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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: Dvr. A/Sgt. James Esson |
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Quote: | We could find more if anyone can look The Times..... |
I checked last week, nothing there.
I'm not sure that Esson at Aldershot is correct as this James Esson stated he was in the 1st, not 3rd, battalion when he enlisted.
A/ Sgt Esson has the King and Queen's SA Medal with clasps for 1901, 1902, Paardeberg and Belfast which confirms he was in SA on 17-26 Feb 1900 and 26-27th August 1900 as well as during 1901 and to May 1902. Although on his file, I can't find anything to confirm this.
The award of the Kings SA medal means he must have been in SA for at least eighteen months prior to the period 1st Jan - 1st June 1902. All this make it unlikely, but not impossible, he was at Home in April 1901.
Update
It now seems clear that this man was never in SA in 1900 so the 1901-1902 clasps are the only ones which are corrrect. _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I noticed the discrepancies too Jim, but the balance seems to sway more on the 'for' side than on the 'against'.
Mark sent me his Gordon Highlander records earlier today and the thing that struck me immediately was that he went from being 5 feet 8 1/2 on that to 6 feet 3 3/4 ins on his ASC records. He also pointed out that to be eligible for the Paardeberg Clasp, he would have to have been in South Africa before the 26th February 1900. (He didn't arrive in Africa until May 1901).
The height difference could obviously put down to a a spurt in growth if this is definately the same person as when he originally attested, he would have been 14 years and 3 months of age (not 18 years and 3 months).
I have no knowledge about medals and entitlements etc., so I'm not going to try and get my head round that at the moment.
I'm going to have to leave Jimmy alone for the rest of the weekend as my wee brain is frazzled (more than usual!!)
As Ken said a couple of posts back - what an amazing amount of info has been uncovered and in such a short space of time.
Thank you very much everybody - I could never have found out a fraction of any of this on my own.
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