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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Torthorwald Parish, Collin Reply with quote

Note that this memorial is in the village of Collin, not in the hamlet of Torthorwald after which the parish (and memorial) is named

UKNIWM Ref: 44221

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L/Bmdr Laurie was the second soldier killed in the 'Troubles'. He died of woulds on 15th February six days after being shot by a Sniper whilst on Foot Patrol in West Belfast, Crumlin Road. he was 22.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plaque behind the memorial is the Laurie Memorial UKNIWM 44222
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WW1 Names:
JOHN ANDERSON
J OSWALD BROWN
JAMES BRYDEN
IAN P CRAWFORD
WILLIAM FERGUSSON
WILLIAM C FERGUSSON
ARTHUR GRAHAM MM
JAMES GREIG
WILLIAM HALLIDAY
JOHN JARDINE
ROBERT JOHNSTONE
JOHN KENNEDY
WILLIAM LESLIE
WILLIAM McGINLEY
PETER McINTOSH
JAMES MARCHBANK
JOHN MURRAY
WILLIAM PAYNE
DANIEL WELLS
ROBERT WILSON

WW2 Names:
JAMES ELLIOTT
JAMES HENDERSON
CHARLES HUXTABLE
THOMAS D LAURIE
STEWART McALPINE
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had more trouble researching this memorial than is usual and I'm still stuck with three names that I cannot identify.
Just two now - ran across a newspaper report on John Murray while looking for someone else!

JAMES GREIG
ROBERT JOHNSTONE


any thoughts/ideas would be welcome.

The village of Torthorwald is just north of Dumfries on the A709 to Lochmaben and Lockerbie. Collin is to the east of Dumfries, just off the A75 to Annan and Carlisle.
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JOHN ANDERSON,
John Anderson – age 27 – Private (238092) 2nd Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
In 1911 John, aged 20 was a labourer living in Collin village, Torthorwald with his father John and his two uncles, Robert and William. His birthplace is given as Torthorwald but the 1901 census has Glasgow.
Born c. 1890 but I cannot trace.
Son of John Anderson of Collin, Torthorwald.
Missing in Action on 25 November 1917 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.


J OSWALD BROWN,
Oswald Stanley Brown – age 29 – Second Lieutenant, 3rd Battalion, attached to the 1st Battalion, Black Watch (Royal Highlanders).
Oswald enlisted in one of the Sportsman's Battalions of the Royal Fusiliers in October 1914. He was commissioned in the Black Watch in May 1915 and went to France in the October.
Born 1886 in St. George, Edinburgh. Son of the late James Brown of Barlae, Kirkcudbrightshire and Mary Christina (Latham) Brown. Husband of Matilda (White) Brown of East Tinwald, Torthorwald who he married in 1911 in Edinburgh.
Missing in Action on 22 December 1915 and named on the Loos Memorial, France.


IAN P. CRAWFORD,
Ian Peake Crawford – age 22 – Corporal (541531) 4th Divisional Signal Company, Canadian Engineers.
Ian was awarded a Meritorious Service Medal as 541531 Cpl. I. P. Crawford, Engrs.
Ian was a horseman at Sunnybrock Farm, Eglinton, Ontario when he and his brother Hugh Stanley Crawford, Sapper (541530) enlisted in Toronto in December 1915. He sailed from St. John's, New Brunswick in March 1916 and went to France in August 1916. Ian was hitching horses to a cable waggon when he was killed by a bomb from an enemy aircraft.
Born 1896 at Dargavel, Dumfries. Son of Peter and Janet (Warnock) Crawford late of Dargavel, Collin, Torthorwald, Dumfries.
Killed in Action on 9 August 1918 and buried in Hangard Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France.
Hugh Crawford served in the same company and survived the war. He was discharged at Toronto in August 1919.
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WILLIAM C. FERGUSSON,
William Currie Fergusson – age 37 – Private (S/16319) 1/7th Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
William had been an under-gardener at Harvieston Castle, Tillicoultry for about 7 years when he enlisted in December 1915. He was mobilised in June 1916 and went to France in the November. He was posted to the 1/7th Argylls in April but was gassed and evacuated to the 22nd General Hospital in Camiers in the May. He returned to his battalion but was wounded and died in the 50th Casualty Clearing Station at Sezanne.
Born 1881 in Torthorwald. Son of the late Thomas and Margaret (Wright) Fergusson of Collin, Torthorwald. Husband of Betsy McIntosh (Nicolson) Ferguson of West Lodge Harvieston Castle, Tillicoultry who he married (as Ferguson) in 1907 in Anderston, Glasgow.
Died of Wounds on 27 July 1918 and buried in Sezanne Communal Cemetery, Marne, France.


WILLIAM FERGUSSON,
William Fergusson – age 21 – Lance Corporal (23840) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers
Born 1896 in Torthorwald. Son of Joseph and Mary Ann (Hutchison) Fergusson of New Road, Collin, Torthorwald.
Missing in Action on 3 May 1917 and named on the Arras Memorial France.


ARTHUR GRAHAM, M.M.
Arthur Graham – age 22 – Private (2206 & 240665) 1/5th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
In 1911 Arthur, aged 14, was a farm labourer and was one of a group of “boarders” with Elizabeth Lockerby (aged 76) of 14 New Military Road, Collin, Torthorwald. The eldest boarder was Wilhelmina Gibson and Arthur named her as his next of kin. He joined his battalion in Egypt and served with them in Palestine and, from April 1918, in France. Arthur was awarded a MM for bravery in the field when carrying despatches, as 240665 Pte. A. Graham, K.O.S.B. (Dumfries)
Born 1896 in King Street, Maxwelltown, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire as Arthur Graham Dougan. Son of Margaret Dougan of Meadowbank, Mouswald, Dumfriesshire. Guardian, Wilhelmina Gibson of Collin, Torthorwald. (Source: Army Registers of Soldiers effects)
Killed in Action on 31 October 1918 and buried in Harlebeke New British Cemetery, Belgium.


JAMES GREIG,
I cannot trace this man.
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WILLIAM HALLIDAY,
William Halliday – age 30 – Private (38389) 8th Battalion, King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry.
Formerly Private (23248) 1st King's Own Scottish Borderers. William was working as a cheesemaker at Redhills, Torthorwald when he enlisted.
Born 1887 at East Kirkcarswell, Rerrick, Kirkcudbrightshire as William Telfer.
Son of Jane Telfer, later of Glenhoul Farm, Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Killed in Action on 10 June 1917 and buried in Bedford House Cemetery, Ypres, Belgium.
Also named on the Dumfries War Memorial, on the St Mary's Church memorial in Dumfries and on the Borge Parish War Memorial in Kirkcudbrightshire.


JOHN JARDINE,
John Jardine – age 31 – Lance Sergeant (295990) 12th (Ayr and Lanark Yeomanry) Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
John had been a postman in Dumfries and Torthorwald since 1904 when he enlisted in the 1/1st Lanarkshire Yeomanry and as Corporal (2141) he landed with his battalion, as dismounted troops, at Gallipoli in October 1915. He was evacuated home with enteric fever and with his time of service expired but when he had recovered he re-enlisted. He joined the 12th RSF in Egypt in January 1917 and served in Palestine (Gaza and Jerusalem)
Born 1886 at Lochrutton, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of the late John Jardine of Lochfoot, Lochrutton and of Anne (Boyd) Jardine of 7 Balmoral Road, Greenbrae, Dumfries. In 1901 John, age 14, was a Telegraph Messenger and was living with his family in Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Husband of Margaret (Hamilton) Jardine who he married in 1913 in Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire.
Missing in Action on 8 December 1917 and named on the Jerusalem Memorial, Israel.
Also named on the Lochrutton Parish War Memorial, on the Dumfries War Memorial, on the Dumfries Post Office memorial and on the St Mary's Church memorial in Dumfries.



ROBERT JOHNSTONE,
I cannot trace this man.
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JOHN KENNEDY,
John Kennedy – age 25 – Able Seaman (Clyde Z/5942) Howe Battalion, Royal Naval Division, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve.
John was a draper when he enlisted in August 1915. He joined the Nelson Battalion at the Base Depot on Mudros (Anti-Aircraft Guns) in February 1916 but returned to the Blandford Base in Dorset in August. He was posted to the Howe Battalion in December 1916.
Born 1893 in Collin, Torthorwald.
Son of John and Helen (Jardine) Kennedy of Roucan Road, Torthorwald and of 82 Black Street, Townhead, Glasgow.
Killed in Action on 26 October 1917 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.
Also named on the Glasgow Roll of Honour.


WILLIAM LESLIE,
William Leslie – age 19 – Private (27101) 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
William was working at the H.M. Munitions Factory at Gretna when he enlisted in October 1916. He went to France in April 1917. William was killed at Langemarck and was buried in the Captain's Farm Cemetery but was re-interred in Artillery Wood in June 1920.
Born 1898 in Torthorwald. Son of David and Catherine (Rae) Leslie of Racks Farm Collin, Torthorwald and of Wath Bridge, Ruthwell, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 16 August 1917 and buried in Artillery Wood Cemetery, Belgium.


WILLIAM McGINLEY,
Note: The spelling of the family name varies from record to record.
William McGinlay – age 27 – Private (40567) 2nd Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
William McGinley was a ploughman at Longrigg, Torthorwald when he enlisted as Private (25302) and joined the 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers in France in October 1916, before transferring to the 2nd RSF.
Born 1889 in Glencairn, Dumfriesshire. (indexed as McGennely)
Son of Thomas and Mary (Newall) McGinley of Victoria Place, Stoop, Glencairn and of 176 Lockerbie Road, Dumfries.
Thomas is indexed as McGennely when he married Mary in 1885 in Holywood, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 23 April 1917 and buried in Bootham Cemetery, Heninel, France.
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PETER McINTOSH,
Peter McIntosh – age 20 – Private (808265) 50th Battalion, Canadian Infantry.
Peter had emigrated to Canada in 1914 and was farming at Sedgewick in Alberta when he enlsited in Calgary in January 1916. He sailed from Halifax, Nova Scotia in August 1916 and joined his battalion in France in March 1917. A month later he was wounded at Vimy Ridge and after two days he died in the 23rd Casualty Clearing Station.
Born 1896 at Drummuir, Torthorwald. Son of the late Margaret (Fleming) McIntosh and John Spiers McIntosh of 25 High Street and of Whitelaird, Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire.
Died of Wounds on 12 April 1917 and buried in Lapugnoy Military Cemetery, France.


JAMES MARCHBANK,
James Marchbank – age 27 – Private (16140) 1st Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
James was a labourer when he enlisted in January 1915. He joined his battalion in France in June. He was wounded in July and evacuated to hospital in Le Havre but recovered and rejoined his unit. He was wounded again in April 1916 and died in a Canadian General Hospital in Etaples.
Born 1889 in Newington, Edinburgh as James Kerr Marchbank.
Son of John and Jane (Kerr) Marchbank of Woodlands, Torthorwald.
Died of Wounds on 12 April 1916 and buried in Etaples Military Cemetery, France.


JOHN MURRAY,
John Murray – age 24 – Private (2758 & 240892) 1/5th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
In1911 John, aged 18, was a ploughman at Bellridding where his father was the farm manager. He joined his battalion in Egypt and served in Palestine. He was reported missing at Gaza in April 1917 but his body was found in January 1918.
Born 1893 in Cummertrees, Dumfriesshire. Son of William Rae Murray and Janet (Campbell) of Belridding Farm, Torthorwald.
Killed in Action on 19 April 1917 and buried in Gaza War Cemetery, Palestine.


WILLIAM PAYNE,
William Payne – age 31 – Private 1st Class (232749) Royal Air Force.
William was a farm labourer at East Logan Farm in Buittle, Kirkcudbrightshire when he married in 1913 and was a dairyman and Private in the RAF when he died of pneumonia and influenza at his home at Greenlea, Collin, Torthorwald. He had enlisted in the Royal Naval Air Service in July 1917 and was transferred to the newly formed RAF on 1 April 1918.
Born 1887 in Dublin. Son of the late George and Mary Jane (Hill) Payne. Husband of Agnes Carruthers Payne of Corklicks Cottage, Annan, Dumfriesshire who he married in 1913 in Buittle, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Died on Service on 29 November 1918 and buried in Torthorwald Churchyard. (CWG)


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DANIEL WELLS,
Daniel Wells – age 25 – Private (40637) 17th Battalion, Royal Scots.
Daniel enlisted in the Royal Scots Scots Greys in August 1914 and as Private (9733) he joined the 1st Dragoons in France in October 1915. He was invalided to hospital in Circencester due to illness in April 1916 and was posted to the Royal Scots when he returned to France in December. He was wounded while working with a wiring party but died of his wounds.
Born 1891 in Collin, Torthorwald. Son of Jessie (Wells) Sharp and step-son of Robert Sharpe of Mouswald Grange, Dumfriesshire.
Grandson of Mr & Mrs Wells of Station Road, Collin, Torthorwald.
Died of Wounds on 21 August 1917 and buried in Villers-Faucon Communal Cemetery, Somme, France.


ROBERT WILSON,
Robert Wilson – 25 – Private (17310) 7th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Robert lived with his wife and two children in Collin, Torthorwald, and was employed in the nearby peatworks when he enlisted December 1914. He landed with his battalion at Boulogne in July 1915
Born 1890 at Braco Sheds, Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Robert and Grace (Chalmers) Wilson of West Cluden Cottage, Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire. Husband of Barbara (Palmer) Wilson who he married in 1914 at Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Killed in Action on 25 September 1915 and buried in Dud Corner Cemetery, Loos, France.
Also named on the Irongray Parish War Memorial.



And the final name on the WW1 section of the memorial:

JAMES BRYDON,
Note: all records spell the name as Bryden.
James Bryden – age 19 – Private 2nd Class (242102) 104 Squadron, Royal Air Force.
James was educated at Collin School and was a joiner in Dumfries when he enlisted as Aircraftman (F42102) in the Royal Naval Air Service in November 1917. He was transferred to the newly formed RAF on 1 April 1918 and joined 104 Squadron when it went to France in May 1918, equipped with DH9 aircraft, to form part of the Independent Bombing Force. It was engaged on long-distance day-bombing raids into Germany. The squadron had to be re-formed three times owing to heavy casualties. James and his pilot, Sergeant Ernest Mellor, were buried in Schaeferhof Communal Cemetery, near Dabo in Moselle, France but were re-interred in Sarralbe Military Cemetery in October 1950.
Born 1899 in Torthorwald. Son of Jane (Brydon) Wells and step-son of John Crosbie Wells of Roucan Road, Collin, Torthorwald who had married in Torthorwald in 1910. Grandson of James Bryden (mason) of Low Road, Collin with whom he lived.
Killed in Action on 7 September 1918 and buried in Sarralbe Military Cemetery, Moselle, France.

Thanks to a lot of digging by Pat Anderson ("keptie") we now know that James and Ernest's aircraft was shot down by enemy aircraft.


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1939 – 1945


JAMES ELLIOTT
,
James Elliott – age 34 – Able Seaman (C/JX 206030) M.V. Otina, Royal Navy.
James was a barber in Buccleuch Street, Dumfries when he joined the navy in 1941. He was a gunner on a Defensively Equipped Merchant Ship, the Tanker “Otina” which was sailing from Belfast to New York when she was hit by two torpedoes from the German submarine U-621 and sank in the mid-Atlantic. All of the crew and the seven gunners were lost.
Born 1908 in Dumfries. Son of Francis and Bessie (Smith) Elliott of Dumfries. Husband of Mary (Hyslop) Elliott of New Road, Collin, Torthorwald who he married in 1929 in Annan, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action/Lost at Sea on 20 December 1942 and named on the Chatham Naval Memorial, Kent.


JAMES HENDERSON,
James Henderson – age 23 – Petty Officer (D/JX159283) H.M.S. Newcastle, Royal Navy.
James was on leave from his ship, the cruiser “Newcastle” and was staying at the Post Office in Collin, Torthorwald, when he went bathing in the Solway near Brow Well, Ruthwell. He dived into shallow water and fractured his spine. James died in Dumfries Royal Infirmary a few days later.
Born 1922 in Torthorwald. Son of James and Agnes Henderson, of Collin, Torthorwald.
Died on Service on 16 July 1945 and buried in Torthorwald Churchyard. (CWG)


CHARLES HUXTABLE,
Charles Nelson Huxtable – age 30 – Stoker 1st Class (P/KX 109591) H.M.S. Barham, Royal Navy.
Charles worked for a builder in Dumfries when he joined the navy in 1939. The battleship Barnham sailing from Alexandria, was hit by three torpedoes from the German submarine U-331 north of Sidi Barrani. As the ship rolled over to port, her after magazines exploded and she quickly sank.
Born 1911 in Torthorwald. Son of the late Hector Shaw Huxtable and of Jane Cowan (Fraser) Huxtable of New Road, Collin, Torthorwald. Husband of Janet (Walls) Huxtable of 62 Glasgow Street, Maxwelltown, Dumfries who he married in 1933 in Dumfries.
Killed in Action/Lost at Sea on 25 November 1941 and named on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial, Hampshire.
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THOMAS D. LAURIE,
Thomas Douglas Laurie – age 22 – Leading Aircraftman (1371688) Coastal Command, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
Thomas was a labourer living at New Road, Collin, Torthorwald when he enlisted. He was killed whilst flying in a Miles Martinet of No 5 (Coastal) Operational Training Unit. The aircraft was seen to dive into the sea whilst flying in cloud.
Born 1923 in Ruthwell, Dumfriesshire - Indexed as Thomas Douglas Lawrie. Son of Thomas and Jessie Jane Laurie of Whinneyhill, New Abbey, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Died on Active Service on 19 November 1944 and named on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.


STEWART McALPINE,
Stuart Gordon McAlpine – age 30 – Leading Aircraftman (999847) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Stuart was working for a radio dealership in Dumfries when he enlisted in July 1940.
Born 1912 at Rosedale, Torthorwald (as Stuart) Son of Alfred William Robertson McAlpine and of Jemima (Bennet) McAlpine of Auldtree Cottage, Collin, Torthorwald.
Killed in Action on 21 June 1942 and buried in El Alamein Cemetery, Egypt.





JOHN D. LAURIE, NORTHERN IRELAND, 1971.
John Douglas Laurie – age 22 – Lance Bombardier (24102365) 57 (Bhurtpore) Battery, 94 Locating Regiment, Royal Regiment of Artillery.
“Jock” Laurie was the driver of the rear Land Rover in a two vehicle mobile patrol driving up the Crumlin Road in Belfast when a blast bomb was thrown at them which exploded between the two vehicles. A gunman then opened up on the rear vehicle with a long burst of automatic fire from a Thompson SMG, wounding John and another Gunner who was in the back of the vehicle. John died in hospital a week later.
Born 1949 in Dumfries. Son of Thomas Reid Laurie and of Mary (Dickson) Laurie.
Died of Wounds on 15 February 1971 and buried in Torthorwald Churchyard.
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