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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim

I have removed Ord from the list.

Westhill is on the list because it currently has a population of over 10,000 and on that basis I would have expected it to have a war memorial. A better description after 'location' would have been 'No known Memorial' rather than 'Not known'.

I see now Westhill is a commuter town for Aberdeen built in the 1960s, a new town in all but name I suppose, so the Skene memorial will cover this town and I will amend the list.

I take it then that any church memorials will probably have been raised for congregations rather than communities and are for another part of the forum.

Thanks for the information. Without this kind of local knowledge it's impossible to try and create a full list.

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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from Tarbrax and Auchengray in South Lanarkshire we are also needing these few civic memorials to complete some areas on the forum:

Crammond, Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh - Location: Crammond Kirk

Lenzie , East Dunbartonshire - Location: Public Hall

Temple , Midlothian - Location: Parish Church (Redundant) UKNIWM - 5637

Inchinnan , Renfrewshire - Location: OS Ref no. NC 719 482

Dollar, Great War Memorial , Clackmannan - Location: Parish Church

Fintry , Stirling - Location: Stained Glass Window, Fintry Kirk

Gargunnock , Stirling - Location: The Square, Fountain or is it in the church? - conflicting sources of information

Drongan , East Ayrshire - Location: Schaw Kirk

Girvan, Boer War Memorial, South Ayrshire - Location: Girvan Cemetery

Rankinston , East Ayrshire - Location: Memorial existence confirmed within community, location not known

Sorn , East Ayrshire - Location: In Sorn Church?

There aren't that many, does anyone know anyone from these locations who may be able to help?

There are three other locations that need confirmation if they have civic memorials or not. They might not have one but I'd like to be able to confirm it either way.

Maidens , South Ayrshire - Location: Not known
Langbank , Renfrewshire - Location: Not known
Inverclyde , Inverclyde - Location: Not known

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Maidens, been there, looked for it and not found one. The nearby Turnberry memorial is for those from the camp only so that's not it. Maidens has a church but only used on high days and holidays. Alternatively Maidens may be covered by the memorial at Kirkoswald.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Rankinston - there is a Rankinston panel on the Coylton memorial which makes me suspect there may not be a separate memorial for Rankinston.

There is no church in Rankinston, but there is a community centre so I think that is the only location to be checked.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw no sign of a memorial, or of an active church in Tarbrax. There is a community hall (modern?), but I don't know if a memorial may be in there. The Auchengray one is probably in the church there, by the looks of the picture of it shown online.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
Re Rankinston - there is a Rankinston panel on the Coylton memorial which makes me suspect there may not be a separate memorial for Rankinston.

There is no church in Rankinston, but there is a community centre so I think that is the only location to be checked.

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Paul

See here:

http://thepoolfamilydatabase.20m.com/rankinston.htm

It mentions a memorial, don't know if there are names on it though.

Also

http://www.cumnockchronicle.com/articles/1/30436

Rankinston: Service at Schaw Kirk at 11.30am and wreath laying at war memorial in Rankinston at 1pm.

Schaw Kirk is the nearest church. Could the memorial be in a graveyard?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP wrote:
I saw no sign of a memorial, or of an active church in Tarbrax. There is a community hall (modern?), but I don't know if a memorial may be in there. The Auchengray one is probably in the church there, by the looks of the picture of it shown online.

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ADP

Yes Auchengray is in the church. Tarbrax definitely had one, I don't know where it is now though. I think David is going to have a search to see what he can find out.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The memorial for Tarbrax is in the church, as is the memorial for Auchengray.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:

See here:

http://thepoolfamilydatabase.20m.com/rankinston.htm

It mentions a memorial, don't know if there are names on it though.

Also

http://www.cumnockchronicle.com/articles/1/30436

Rankinston: Service at Schaw Kirk at 11.30am and wreath laying at war memorial in Rankinston at 1pm.

Schaw Kirk is the nearest church. Could the memorial be in a graveyard?

Adam


Interesting, Rankinston only came under the Schaw church at Drongan from 1931, it had come under Coylton prior to that but with its own church.

From 1931 the services at Rankinston church were by the minister from Drongan instead of the Schaw church. To complicate things the new Schaw church was built in 1955 about 2 miles from the original church.

Up until 1937 church services in Rankinston were held in the infant school so I guess we should be looking in the open for the memorial - I will check it out next time I go up to Prestwick.

I found this useful info:

"The War Memorial at Rankinston was unveiled on 7th August 1921, the minister -
Rev J. E. Thomson presided. ...... Altho' the weather was very disagreeable there was
a very large gathering of people and the service was very impressive. The unveiling
ceremony was performed by Mr John Sloan, Senr. who had lost four sons in the War.
About 80 enlisted from Rankinston district of whom twenty six made the supreme
sacrifice - a number of these last being members of sons of members of this
Congregation."

at http://www.dronganschawkirk.co.uk/History/150%20Years.pdf

which explains the history of and relationship between Drongan, Coylton, Rankinston and Stair.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim posted a civic memorial for parish of Cairnie, Aberdeenshire. I don't see this in the 'missing list' for Aberdeenshire ?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark

I was only concentrating on the South of Scotland at the moment. That is everything below the Clyde-Forth line plus Fife, the old Central Region area and the Dunbartonshires.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bumping this one to the top again

We're still looking for photographs of these South of Scotland memorials

Crammond, Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh - Location: Crammond Kirk Notes

Lenzie , East Dunbartonshire - Location: Public Hall

Temple , Midlothian - Location: Parish Church (Redundant) UKNIWM - 5637

Dollar, Great War Memorial , Clackmannan - Location: Parish Church

Fintry , Stirling - Location: Stained Glass Window, Fintry Kirk

Gargunnock , Stirling - Location: The Square, Fountain or is it in the church? - conflicting sources of information

Drongan , East Ayrshire - Location: Schaw Kirk

Girvan, Boer War Memorial, South Ayrshire - Location: Girvan Cemetery

Sorn , East Ayrshire - Location: In Sorn Church?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temple is now completed, transcribed and on the forum.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have written to the Session Clerk for the Schaw Kirk, Drongan today. The memorial is inside the church.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confirmed with the postmaster today that there is definately no memorial at Maidens.

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