The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:14 am Post subject:

I have updated the totals list since Lanarkshire and West Lothian were both completed yersterday. This means we now have all the civic memorials for a large part of Southern Scotland

Adam

dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject:

Adam,

Today I have posted the following Angus Parish Memorials - Kirkden, Lethnot & Navar, Logie Pert, Menmuir, & Stracathro.

Looking at the Angus Parishes/Civic Memorials, the following required for completion;

ANGUS
Eassie & Nevay - Enqs. to be made within the Parish Church.
Forfar Town Hall - A thread has been started but pics of the stained glass windows reqd.
Kingoldrum - Enqs. to be made within the Parish Church.
Lochlee - This has been posted although it is a pic. from the internet? A digi photo and name panels will have to be taken. This seems like a 'summer' job!
Lundie - definately a memorial inside the church.
Monikie - I have posted the Hall but enqs reqd. to find out if there are plaques within. The Memorial Hall website only refers to plaques at Monikie & Newbigging Kirks.
Oathlaw - Parish War Memorial Windows are inside Tannadice Church.

* Of course there may be other public memorials I am not aware of + there may be churches which house WW2 memorials where the names have not been added to the Great War monuments.

DUNDEE
The Rolls of Honour are inside McManus Art Gallery which is re-opening Autumn 2008, I believe. This will then allow access to the Spanish Civil Memorial in the Peace Garden outside.

dhubthaigh · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

STIRLING & CENTRAL SCOTLAND

Some enquiry relating to list for the above. Again if anyone can chip in and assist feel free;

CLACKMANNAN , LOCATION - KIRK WYND , DISTRICT - ALLOA, SAUCHIE & CLACKMANNAN , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNAN , UKNIWM REF NO. 6028
* CLACKMANNAN WAR MEMORIAL

COALSNAUGHTON , LOCATION - PUBLIC HALL , DISTRICT - COALSNAUGHTON, DOLLAR, MUCKHART & TILLICOULTRY , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNAN , UKNIWM REF NO. 6025
* COALSNAUGHTON WAR MEMORIAL

DOLLAR , LOCATION - GARDEN OF REMEMBRANCE, BRIDGE STREET , DISTRICT - COALSNAUGHTON, DOLLAR, MUCKHART & TILLICOULTRY , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNANSHIRE , UKNIWM REF NO. 5769
* DOLLAR WAR MEMORIAL

GLENOCHIL VILLAGE , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNANSHIRE
* GLENOCHIL, A VILLAGE IN LOGIE PARISH, CLACKMANNANSHIRE

MUCKHART , LOCATION - CORONATION HALL , DISTRICT - COALSNAUGHTON, DOLLAR, MUCKHART & TILLICOULTRY , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNAN , UKNIWM REF NO. 6026
*MUCKHART WAR MEMORIAL

SAUCHIE AND FISHCROSS , LOCATION - JUNCTION OF PARKHEAD ROAD AND MAR PLACE. (SAUCHIE PUBLIC HALL IN 1921) , DISTRICT - ALLOA, SAUCHIE & CLACKMANNAN , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNAN , ADDITIONAL INFORMATION 106 WW1 NAMES , UKNIWM REF NO. 6030
* SAUCHIE WAR MEMORIAL

TILLICOULTRY, WW2, DISTRICT -COALSNAUGHTON, DOLLAR, MUCKHART & TILLICOULTRY , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNAN, UKNIWM REF NO. 5773
* IN CEMETERY - TO BE POSTED

TULLIBODY , LOCATION - PARK , DISTRICT - MENSTRIE, ALVA & TULLIBODY , AUTHORITY - CLACKMANNAN , UKNIWM REF NO. 44720
* TO BE POSTED

BLACKNESS , LOCATION - PARISH CHURCH, ST NINIAN'S WAY , AUTHORITY - FALKIRK , UKNIWM REF NO. 13424
* TO BE POSTED

DENNYLOANHEAD , LOCATION - DENNYLOANHEAD , AUTHORITY - FALKIRK
* TO BE POSTED

STENHOUSEMUIR , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - FALKIRK ?
SMALL TOWN IN LARBERT PARISH, STIRLINGSHIRE

BALFRON , LOCATION - FOUNTAIN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* ONE ALREADY FOR BALFRON POSTED - IS THERE ANOTHER ONE ?

BLACKNESS , LOCATION - PARISH CHURCH, ST NINIAN'S WAY , AUTHORITY - FALKIRK , UKNIWM REF NO. 13424
* DUPLICATE - REMOVE

BLANEFIELD , LOCATION - JCN OF GLASGOW RD & CARSIEDENE , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* TO BE POSTED

BOTHKENNAR , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* WITHIN THE CHURCH (THERE IS DEFINITELY A WW2 MEMORIAL WINDOW) ?

BUCHANAN , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* WITHIN THE CHURCH ?

CAMBUSBARRON , LOCATION - CHURCH GROUNDS , AUTHORITY - STIRLING , UKNIWM REF NO. 5808
* THE UKNIWM REFERS TO CALLENDAR SCOUTS MEMORIAL

CAMBUSBARRON 1 , LOCATION - OLD SCHOOL , AUTHORITY - STIRLING ?

CAMBUSBARRON 2 , LOCATION - PARISH CHURCH , AUTHORITY - STIRLING , UKNIWM REF NO. 5793
* AT THE CHURCH - TO BE POSTED

DUNBLANE, BURGH , LOCATION - DUNBLANE CATHEDRAL , AUTHORITY - STIRLING , UKNIWM REF NO. 5777
* HAS BEEN POSTED (SEE ALSO LECROPT)

FINTRY , LOCATION - STAINED GLASS WINDOW , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* INSIDE KIRK - TO BE POSTED

GARGUNNOCK , LOCATION - THE SQUARE, FOUNTAIN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* INSIDE THE CHURCH - TO BE POSTED

INVERSNAID , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* INVERSNAID, A HAMLET IN BUCHANAN PARISH, NW STIRLINGSHIRE ?

LECROPT, LOCATION - NOT KNOWN, AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* PARISH OF DUNBLANE & LECROPT - ALSO LISTED AS SUCH IN PERTHSHIRE’S ‘GOLDEN BOOK’

LOGIE (STIRLING) , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* WITHIN THE KIRK ?

MONYABROCH , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* MONYABROCH IS ALTERNATIVE NAME FOR KILSYTH PARISH

PORT OF MENTIETH, LOCATION - NOT KNOWN, AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* TO BE POSTED

ST LAWRENCE , LOCATION - NOT KNOWN , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE NAME FOR CAMBUSNETHAN

STRATHYRE , LOCATION - MAIN STREET , AUTHORITY - STIRLING
* HAS BEEN POSTED

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ALSO:

ROWARDENNAN
* NATIONAL WW2MEMORIAL AT EAST SIDE OF LOCH LOMOND

* FALKIRK COUNCIL HAVE A WAR MEMORIAL FOR BONNY BRIDGE UNDER ‘CLOCK TOWERS’

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:41 am Post subject:

Dennyloanhead – It seems there was a WW1 Roll of Honour held in Dennyloanhead Church at one point in time. I have spoken to the Minister and to a few elderly members of the Congregation (of both Haggs and Bonnybridge Churches) but no one knows what happened to this when the church was closed. There was (or at least up until a few years ago) an existing WW2 plaque which I photographed.
(see http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=89)

A few years after the closure, the building was converted into a fireplace showroom with a house attached. It’s now in the process of being re-converted into flats. I made enquiries with the builders to see what they intended to do with this plaque and at the same time spoke to the Minister of Haggs Parish Church (who don’t have any memorials of any kind) and she said if this plaque was going to be looking for a ‘home’, she’d be delighted to take it.

The above post spurred my memory and I’m now in the process of trying to find out what has happened to it as it hasn’t gone to either Haggs or Bonnybridge Parish Churches which would seem the most obvious place to relocate.

Stenhousemuir. As far as I’m aware, the only Civic Memorial is the one which sits outside the Dobbie Hall in Larbert. (see http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=92 ) There's unpteen Churches within the Larbert/Stenhousemuir area.

Lecropt I think must be a Church window. There’s certainly no memorial in the wee Churchyard.

Logie (Stirling) – again must be inside the Church as there’s nothing in any of the 4 Burial Grounds there.

Bonnybridge – Clock Tower? This might be their description of the WW2 Archway which is topped by a wee clock. (see http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=87 )

Anne

dhubthaigh · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject:

Thanks Anne,

Stenhousemuir covered by the CIVIC memorial at Larbert then?

I think you will be right about Bonnybridge Clock Tower.

I think Dunblane and Lecropt combined for their CIVIC memorial. This was the official title in the Perthshire 'Golden Book.

Flakirk Council's website say THEY are responsible for a War Memorial at Dennyloanhead;

http://www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/law_admin/business_and_member_services/war_memorials.aspx

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject:

A wee update:

Found and photographed Cambusbarron War Memorial, so I'll post that a.s.a.p.

Definately no Civic Memorial at Dennyloanhead.

Definately no Civic Memorial at Logie. (Photographed the internal memorials inside Logie Kirk today but haven't had a chance to either transcribe or check the quality yet.)

Drove round in circles in Tullibody after being assured that there was a War Memorial but I couldn't find hide nor hair of it. I eventually ran out of daylight hours so I'll have another go soon. I'll nip along to Fishcross & Glenochil and see what's what there too, weather permitting of course!

Anne

apanderson · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject:

Another wee update! Very Happy

Found Tullibody's War Memorial - will post details a.s.a.p.

Also, found and photographed the following:

Sauchie War Memorial
Colsnaughton War Memorial

I don't think Glenochil Village has a Memorial. I drove round it and it appears only to be 'Prison' houses.

The same for Fishcross. I think Fishcross might be in with Sauchie but I haven't checked any of the names yet.

Anne

dhubthaigh · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject:

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject:

Just to let you know we now have all the civic memorials in these areas:

Argyll & Bute - Bute
Scottish Borders
Dumfries & Galloway
Highland - Badenoch
Highland - Nairn
Lanarkshire
Angus & City of Dundee
West Lothian

And in these areas We only have to get one memorial in each to complete them:

Central Scotland - Clackmannan. Dollar Great War memorial in Parish Church
Highland - Sutherland. Stoer. In Parish Church
Central Scotland - Falkirk. Blackness. In parish Church
City of Glasgow. Gorbals. In Gorbals Rose Garden.

We currently have 1152 civic memorials on the forum which is 83% of an estimated total of 1384 Scottish civic war memorials.

Here are the other areas where we are still looking for civic memorials to be recorded.

Aberdeen City
Aberdeenshire
Argyll & Bute - Islands
Argyll & Bute - Islay
Argyll & Bute - Mainland
Argyll & Bute - Mull
Ayrshire
Central Scotland - Stirling
City of Edinburgh
Dunbartonshire
East Lothian
Fife
Highland - Caithness
Highland - Inverness
Highland - Islands
Highland - Lochaber
Highland - Ross & Cromarty
Highland - Skye & Lochalsh
Midlothian
Moray
Orkney
Perth & Kinross
Renfrewshire & Inverclyde
Shetland
Western Isles

Adam

dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately still three for Perth & Kinross at Trinity Gask, Monzie & Forteviot (all within churches). Hopefully these will be added very soon.

DerekR · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

I'm off up the west coast next week so will do what I can in that area.
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dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject:

DerekR · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject:

Midges allowing of course.
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Adam Brown · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:07 am Post subject:

I've been concentrating on the civic memorial lists lately and we have fewer than 150 memorials still to get. Unfortunately most of them are in remote places, or places which are locked such as churches and some graveyards where access is difficult. It may be some time before we get all of them.

This morning I did a quick check on the non-civic memorials and we have over 1350 of them. Combined with the 1200+ civic memorials that's gives us an impressive total of nearly 2,600 memorials on the forum.

I think we've got a large percentage of the non-civic memorials which are in public places. I'm sure there are many still to get in churches, schools, halls and club houses but these are more difficult to get because of access.

Adam

DerekR · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

Adam,

Any chance of seeing which community memorials are still to record in one list please?
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Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear.