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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:02 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. Angus McNicol, 10th A. & S.H. Reply with quote

Also remembered on the Brodick panel at the War Memorial Hospital, Lamlash.

SNWM - no trace.

1901 Census Ayrshire, Ardrossan, 98 Glasgow Street, recorded (transcription):- Angus McNicol (1), born Ardrossan; Colin McNicol (30), Plumber (lead), born Ayrs., Kilmarnock; Janet McNicol (26), Wife, born Renfrews., Paisley.

CWGC - McNICOL, Angus McAlpine
Rank: Private.
Service No: S/25918.
Date of Death: 09/03/1919. Age: 19.
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 10th Bn.
Grave Reference: Near West side of main path.
Cemetery: BRODICK PARISH CHURCHYARD
Additional Information: Son of Colin McNicol, of 6, Douglas Row, Brodick.

England & Wales Deaths Index.
Recorded Q1 of 1919 - Angus McA. McNicol (19), born 1900.
Northumberland, Castle Ward, Volume 10B, page 712.

The Glasgow Herald, Wednesday, 12th March, 1919.
"Deaths on Service.
McNICOL.-
At Gosforth War Hospital, Newcastle, on the 9th March, Private Angus McNicol, aged 19 years, beloved son of Colin and Janet McNicol, Douglas Place (sic), Brodick."

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. Hugh M. Reid, 6th R.S.F. Reply with quote

SNWM - WW1
Surname REID
Forename Hugh M
Rank Pte
Service number 19608
Decoration
Place of birth Kilmory Buteshire
Date of death 16 March 1917
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Died
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail 6/7th Bn.

Some service records exist for this soldier.
Hugh Miller Reid
Enlisted Ardrossan, 23rd. June, 1915.
Born:- Kilmory, Bute. Age:- 39 years 110 days. Occupation:- Gardener.
N/K:- Margaret Miller or Reid (mother), Barnhill, Brodick.
Unmarried. No children.


CWGC - REID, Hugh Miller
Rank: Private.
Service No: 19608.
Date of Death: 16/03/1917. Age: 42. (Died from pneumonia at Etaples General Hospital.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 6th/7th Bn.
Grave Reference: XXII. B. 10.
Cemetery: ETAPLES MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Thomas and Margaret Reid, of Brodick, Arran, Scotland.

1881 Census Butes., Brodick, Kilbride, Schoolhouse, recorded (transcription):- Hugh Reid (8 ), Scholar, born Kilbride; Thomas Reid (34), Schoolmaster, born Ayrs., Sorn; Margaret Reid (30), Wife, born Ayrs., Mauchline; siblings; servant.

1901 Census for Lanarkshire, Cambusnethan, records (transcription), Hugh Reid (28 ), Market Gardener, single, born Buteshire, Kilmory, Boarder, at Durham Bank Orchard, and within the household of William Gold (39), Fruit Grower and florist, born Glasgow, his wife and family.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Sergt. George Goldthorpe, 9th Black Watch Reply with quote

Surname on Memorial has different spelling to the name on the War Memorial Hospital "Brodick" panel at Lamlash, but it doesn't make a lot of difference as both memorials are woefully incorrect.

Sergt. S/4896 George F. Gouldthorp, 9th (Service) Battalion, Black Watch.
Service Nr. is very close to that of William T. McIntyre (S/4900). Maybe they enlisted together..

SDGW - Born Barton-on-Humber, Lincs., England; enlisted Ardrossan.
Medal index ticket:- http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D2391221


SNWM - WW1
Surname GOULDTHORP
Forename George Frederick
Rank Sgt
Service number S/4896
Decoration
Place of birth Barton-on-Humber Lincolnshire
Date of death 25 September 1915
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE BLACK WATCH ROYAL HIGHLANDERS
Other detail 9th Bn.

CWGC - GOULDTHORP, George Frederick
Rank: Serjeant.
Service No: S/4896.
Date of Death: 25/09/1915. Age: 33.
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) "C" Coy. 9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 78 to 83. (Stone 79.)
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Tom and Sarah Jane Gouldthorp, of 46, Marsh Lane, Barton-on-Humber, Lincs. Served 12 years in the Royal Navy.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:19 am    Post subject: George Jessie Raeside L/Cpl GH Reply with quote

George Jessie Raeside L/Cpl S/41108 7th Gordon Highlanders b Brodick,Bute 10/07/1898 e Glasgow Age 18 Killed in Action F&F 23/04/1917 Son of John & Ada Raeside, 6 Douglas Row, Brodick. Father's Occ: Slater. Mother: Ada Mary Goodenough. Sometimes: Reside. Soldiers Effects: Mother: Ada M. Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Brown's Copse Cemetery, Rouex Fr 0604 Plot III Row C Grave 16
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject: WW1 - L/Sergt. John Joyce, 12th Royal Scots. Reply with quote

SNWM - WW1
Surname JOYCE
Forename John
Rank L Sgt
Service number 14679
Decoration
Place of birth Clovenfords Selkirkshire
Date of death 14 July 1916
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ROYAL SCOTS LOTHIAN REGIMENT
Other detail 12th Bn.

SDGW - Born Clovenfords, Selkirks.; lived Lauder, Berwicks.; enlisted Glencorse, Midlothian.

CWGC - JOYCE, J.
Rank: Lance Serjeant.
Service No: 14679.
Date of Death: 14/07/1916.
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots 12th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. C. 5.
Cemetery: QUARRY CEMETERY, MONTAUBAN
Additional Information:


Not listed at Galashiels.
Not listed at Glencorse.
Listed at Lauder War Memorial:-
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:51 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Tpr. Simon Lawson, 6th. Dragoons Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Monday, 13th September, 1915.
"Deaths on Service.
LAWSON.-
At Royal Infirmary, Glasgow, on 11th September, Trooper Simon A. Lawson, the Carabiniers, att. 2nd. Life Guards, aged 33 years."

SNWM - WW1
Surname LAWSON
Forename Simon
Rank Pte
Service number 1200
Decoration
Place of birth Barony Lanarkshire
Date of death 11 September 1915
Theatre of death Home
Cause of death Died
SNWM roll COMMANDS AND STAFF; CAVALRY (EXCLUDING GREYS AND SCOTTISH YEOMANRY)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to COMMANDS AND STAFF; CAVALRY EXCLUDING GREYS AND SCOTTISH YEOMANRY
Other detail 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabineers).

SDGW - Enlisted Glasgow.
Already a soldier at the time of the 1911 census - barracks in England.
Not listed Glasgow City Roll of Honour.

Date of war entry:- 19th October, 1914.
Service Nrs.: 1200; D/1200.

CWGC - LAWSON, S.
Rank: Private.
Service No: 1200.
Date of Death: 11/09/1915. (At Royal Infirmary, Glasgow.)
Regiment/Service: 6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers)
Grave Reference: A. 2932.
Cemetery: GLASGOW (RIDDRIE PARK) CEMETERY
Additional Information:

Grave Registration Reports record:- Age 33; Lawson, c/o McInnes, 303, Golfhill Drive, Glasgow.

Soldiers backpay records unit:- 6th. Dragoon Guards att. 2nd Life Guards; backpay of 11 7s 5d and War Gratuity of 6 to sister and sole legatee Mrs. Ann F. Nixon. 1916/1919.

1891 Census Lanarks., Glasgow, Blythswood, 81 John Street, records (transcription):- Simon Lawson (9), son, born Glasgow; James Lawson (55), Joiner, born Holytown, Lanarks.; Elizabeth Lawson (45), Wife, born Nairn, Morayshire; 7 siblings, including Ann Lawson (17), Dressmaker, daughter, born Lanarks, Glasgow.

Sisters' (Ann Lawson) middle name may be Fraser.
Mother's own name may be Dallas.

The Glasgow Herald, Monday, 11th September, 1916.
"In Memoriam.
LAWSON.-
In loving memory of Trooper Simon Lawson, the Carabiniers, who was killed in Sauchiehall Street, 11th September, 1915- Anna Nixon, 124, York Drive, Hyndland."
(I am jumping to conclusions here with the surname Nixon as it's a bit of a murky print, and what the connection is to Brodick, we still do not know.)

Final word I think:- The Glasgow Herald, Monday, 13th September, 1915, page 6:- "SCOTTISH NEWS While Private James Quin, of the 4th Seaforth Highlanders, who has just returned from the front on furlough, was leaving a tramcar at the corner of Renfield Street and Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow, on Saturday night, his rifle went off accidentally. The bullet struck Private Simon Lawson, of the 6th Dragoon Guards, residing at 124 York Street, Hyndland, who died after admission to the Royal Infirmary. Quin has been taken into custody."

Same publication, Tuesday, 14th September, 1915, page 6. Report that following a hearing at Glasgow Northern Police Court on Monday, 13th, Private Quin was remanded in custody for two days. ".....Quin, at the time, was in a car proceeding to his home at 8 William Street, Cowcaddens. ... Lieutenant Campbell, Acting Fiscal, asked that Quin should be remanded for two days for inquiry, and Bailie Smith, who was on the bench, granted the request. The remand was for inquiry 'as to having, on September 11, in a tramcar in Renfield Street, Glasgow, recklessly discharged a rifle loaded with ball ammunition and fatally injured a soldier.'"

Same publication, Thursday, 16th September, 1915, page 8. Report that case was remitted to Sheriff Court where, in chambers, before Sheriff Craigie, Mr George Bradley, writer, appeared for accused Quin and asked that he be granted bail. Sheriff Craigie granted bail at 10.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:37 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. John McAllister, 9th. Bn. Black Watch. Reply with quote

SNWM - WW1
Surname McALLISTER
Forename John D (Medal roll from 1920 says "B".)
Rank Pte
Service number S/4902
Decoration
Place of birth Ardrossan Ayrshire
Date of death 25 September 1915
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE BLACK WATCH ROYAL HIGHLANDERS
Other detail 9th Bn.

SDGW - Born/enlisted Ardrossan, Ayrshire.
France, 14th July, 1915.

1901 Census Bute, Kilbride, Brodick, East Knowe, recorded (transcription):- John Mcallister (11), Scholar, son, born Ardrossan; James Mcallister (47), Woodman, born Ayrs., Saltcoats; Mary Mcallister (47), wife, born Bute, Kilmory.


CWGC - McALLISTER John B.
Rank: Private.
Service No: S/4902.
Date of Death:25/09/1915.
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 78 to 83. (Stone 82 A.)
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: WW1 - L/Sergt. John Joyce, 12th Royal Scots. Reply with quote

A Beattie wrote:
SNWM - WW1
Surname JOYCE
Forename John
Rank L Sgt
Service number 14679
Decoration
Place of birth Clovenfords Selkirkshire
Date of death 14 July 1916
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ROYAL SCOTS LOTHIAN REGIMENT
Other detail 12th Bn.

SDGW - Born Clovenfords, Selkirks.; lived Lauder, Berwicks.; enlisted Glencorse, Midlothian.

CWGC - JOYCE, J.
Rank: Lance Serjeant.
Service No: 14679.
Date of Death: 14/07/1916.
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots 12th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. C. 5.
Cemetery: QUARRY CEMETERY, MONTAUBAN
Additional Information:


Not listed at Galashiels.
Not listed at Glencorse.
Listed at Lauder War Memorial:-
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Listed on the Lauder Parish War Memorial in Berwickshire as:

JOHN JOYCE, L/SGT. ROYAL SCOTS
John Joyce age 34 Lance Sergeant (14679) 12th Battalion, Royal Scots.
As a young man John had been a ploughman at Shielfield Farm in Lauder but he was a gamekeeper at Brodick Castle on Arran when he enlisted in September 1914. He landed with his battalion in France in May 1915.
Born 1882 Clovenfords, Caddonfoot, Selkirkshire. Son of the late Elizabeth (Fitzpatrick) Joyce (died 1912) and of the late John Joyce (died 1916) of West Mains, Lauder.
Killed in Action on 14 July 1916 and buried in Quarry Cemetery, Montauban, France.
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