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ST. ANDREW'S CHURCH, BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: ST. ANDREW'S CHURCH, BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA Reply with quote

I noticed the following paragraph from 'Church News' in the P.A. 17/09/1921:-

The Scots Church of Buenos Aires propose to erect an old oak memorial in memory of those of Scots extraction who fell in the war, from some 2000 volunteers. In St. Andrew's Church, Buenos Aires, there is a Head Minister, two English speaking and one Spanish speaking assistants. Services are held at eight centres.
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'St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church (Iglesia Presbiteriana San Andrés in Spanish), is a Christian church denomination that has its origins in the arrival in Argentina of Scottish colonial settlers early in the 19th century'.

I found a web site which has transcribed the names from WW1 & WW2:

Memorial to the Fallen of the First World War (1914-1919)


Name: WHIGHAM, ROBERT SCOTT
Initials: R S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flight Sub-Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Air Service
Age: 19
Date of Death: 09/05/1917
Additional information: Son of William B. and Helen Scott Whigham, of Buenos Ayres, Argentine Republic.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 25.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL

Name: DRYSDALE, DONALD ROY
Initials: D R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Dorsetshire Regiment
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 25/09/1916
Additional information: Son of Joseph Norman Drysdale and Agnes Gibson Drysdale, of 440, Calle Peru, Buenos Aires, Argentine Republic.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Officers, A. 9. 4.
Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY, ROUEN

Memorial to the Fallen of the Second World War (1939-1945)


Name: RUNNACLES, ERNEST RONALD MAURICE
Initials: E R M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Pilot Officer (Obs.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 7 Sqdn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 11/09/1942
Service No: 118622
Additional information: Son of Maurice Arthur Runnacles and of Margaret Helen Runnacles (nee MacFarlane), of General Lavalle, Buenos Aires, Argentine. Ornithologist.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Joint grave 12. D. 8.
Cemetery: JONKERBOS WAR CEMETERY

Name: CRIBBES, GEORGE DERYK
Initials: G D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flying Officer (Pilot)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 24
Date of Death: 23/02/1945
Service No: 166098
Additional information: Son of George Burnett and Sylvia Aida Cribbes, of Buenos Aires, Argentina; husband of Sylvia Mary Cribbes, of Sydenham, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: West. D. 5.
Cemetery: NASSAU WAR CEMETERY

Will these memorials appear one day?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well spotted Mark
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: COLDWELL, HERBERT DAVID
Initials: H D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Secondary Regiment: General List
Secondary Unit Text: and
Age: 25
Date of Death: 11/03/1918
Additional information: Son of Frederick and Mary Ann Brown Coldwell, of Gde. Julio, 438, Bernal, F.C.S., Buenos Aires, Argentina. Anglo-Argentine Volunteer.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 17.
Cemetery: UPAVON CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: GLASGOW, WILLIAM JAMES NESBIT
Initials: W J N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 93rd Field Coy.
Age: 35
Date of Death: 07/10/1916
Awards: M C, Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of William and Agnes Glasgow, of Buenos Aires, South America.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. B. 9.
Cemetery: COUIN BRITISH CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: GRASSICK, WILLIAM HENDERSON
Initials: W H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "A" Bty. 86th Bde.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 09/02/1919
Additional information: Son of Peter Archibald and Edith Margaret Grassick, of "La Ynes," Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentine Republic.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XIII. C. 25.
Cemetery: TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JORDAN, IRIS MABEL
Initials: I M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 23
Date of Death: 05/07/1942
Additional information: of Pasco Colon 476, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Daughter of Joseph and Mabel Annie Jordan.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: S.S. "AVILA STAR"
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Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was unable to find the other two ladies:-
Irene Phillips Brown & Norah Helen Frazer
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Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This book currently for sale on Ebay might shed some light on this memorial:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRITISH-COMMUNITY-ACTIVITIES-IN-ARGENTINA-1914-1919_W0QQitemZ290200713645QQihZ019QQcategoryZ21537QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken Morrison has PM'd me with the information thyat

Allan Knowles Edgar is listed on the Colvend World War 2 Memorial.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the names again

David Lyall Anderson
Magnus M. Angus
John Lyle Barr
Andrew Baxter
Thomas Beattie
Thomas H. Bell
Allan Brodie
Arthur S. Buchanan
Walter Bell Burns
John Argentine Campbell
Herbert David Coldwell
Norman Cobbold
Ian Stavely Drysdale
Henry Howard Drysdale
Donald Roy Drysdale
James J. W. Fairbairn
Gibson Finlayson
William James Nisbet Glasgow
George Hugh Graham
William H. Grassick
Cecil B. Grundy
John Mackie Hay
William Muir Hayman
Frank Henderson
James Moore Hopson
Robert Colvill Jones
Thomas Colvill Jones
William G. Lacey
William Weir Laird
John Archibald McColl
David McCorquodale
John Stewart McHardy
John McRostie
Frederick McWilliam
Hugh Meikle Miller
Harold Methven Musson
Rev. W. N. Monteith
Alfred Mountjoy
William Gilmour Moore Orr
Raymond Stanley Pearse
Victor Ernest Irvine Reid
William Halliday Reynolds
Joseph Robinson
Ben Matthews Roberts
Edmund Inglis Runciman
Alexander Shrewsbury
Charles Faulkner Smith
Kenneth Struthers
Peter Sutherland
Charles Peter Waddle
Geoffrey Philip Walsh
Alfred Ernest Walter
George H. White
Robert Scott Whigham

And the Second World War names

Robert Hastings Ancell
Douglas Allen Barnfather
Annie B. Beck
Irene Phillips Brown
John Francis Burton
George Deryk Cribbes
Harold Frank Darbyshire
Philip Keith Dimalow
Allan Knowles Edgar
Norah Helen Frazer
Ronald Frazer
Michael Thomas Flood
James Florence
Francis Hugh Fullager
William Darnley Dewar Gammie
Charles Richard Patrick Gregg
Rev. Peter Hamilton
Francis Reginald Maitland Heriot
George John Hunter
John Scott Hutton
Iris Mabel Jordan
Edgar Bowen James
Kenneth Forbes Macdonald
Duncan Farquhar Macdonald
Gordon Macdiarmid Mackinnon
Ian Andrew James MacQueen
Samuel McAllister
Ian Wallace McCallum
Harold Mohr-Bell
James Alexander Murchinson
Charles Neil
George Graham Paul
James Pollock
John Marquis Rankin
Daniel Ross
Ernest Ronald Maurice Runnacles
Ian Sanderson
William Harvey Spreull
Alexander Miller Wylie Taylor
Rev. James Sheppard Taylor
William Turnbull
Harold Edward Upton
Charles John Wyllie

Ian Wallace McCallum died in Italy serving with Popski's Private Army.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Details from the Colvend Church Memorial thread

FLT. SGT. ALLAN K. EDGAR, R.A.F.V.R.
Allan Knowles Edgar, Flight Sergeant (1380422) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Age 22.
Born 1921 at West Derby, Lancashire. Son of Thomas Edgar, formerly of Kippford, Colvend and Elsie Knowles Edgar. Returned from Argentina to enlist.
Killed in Action 17 April 1943 whilst a wireless operator/air gunner on an Halifax of 77 Squadron, RAF Bomber Command during a raid on the Skoda works in Pilsen, Czechoslovakia, buried in Durnbach War Cemetery, Bad Tolz, Germany and also remembered on the Memorial to the Fallen in St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Buenos Aires.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:21 pm    Post subject: St Andrew's Church, Buenos Aires Reply with quote

The John Lyle Barr on the memorial is the same John Lyle Barr on Bridge of Weir memorial in Renfrewshire. More details at his page on the Bridge of Weir Memorial website, including an excellent photograph posted by IWM on its flickr page. http://www.bridgeofweirmemorial.co.uk/profile-barrjohnlyle.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Frank Henderson Reply with quote

Frank Henderson who is listed as a Great War casualty is:
6371 Corporal Francis (Frank) Henderson
2/14th City of London Regiment (London Scottish)
Died of wounds 8 October 1916, aged 29
Buried in Aubigny Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France

Born in Edinburgh, he was the son of Margaret Allan Reid or Henderson of "Viewhill", Falkland, Fife.
He worked as a teller in Falkland's British Linen Bank and then transferred to the Carluke branch and then to London. He then went to work for the Anglo South American Bank in Bahia Blanca. He returned to Britain in late 1915 to enlist. He had been in France for 5 months when he was very badly wounded at Neuville St Vaast, his leg was amputated, and he died at 42nd Casualty Clearing Station.

He is commemorated on the war memorials in Falkland -the new one on Brunton Green, the plaque in the kirk and on the plaque now in the Community Hall, formerly in the Memorial Institute.
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