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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: NEW CWGC website |
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The new CWGC site went live this morning.
As with all complex sites, there may be minor glitches to deal with, but the whole thing is a tremendous improvement.
The biggest improvement is the facility to download any part of the database. You can take your selection to your own computer and analyse it as you wish.
http://www.cwgc.org/ _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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DerekR Moderator
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 3013 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Big improvement. _________________
Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear. |
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DelBoy
Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 4858 Location: The County of Angus
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent stuff.
The databse search options are great too, the "9 times mentioned in Despatches" option threw me a bit!
Glad they have taken their time and done it wright.
Derek. |
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David McNay Administrator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 11425 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:23 am Post subject: |
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One slight grump is that the "country" drop-down list of options only has United Kingdom, and no option search by individual countries within that - I have fed that back to them and they have acknowledged it - fingers crossed that gets changed.
Apart from that, looks like a great redesign. I've not had much of a chance to dig too deeply into it, and my PC at work (which still runs ancient Internet Explorer 6) couldn't get the site to work, but I like what I see so far. |
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David McNay Administrator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 11425 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Just noticed that the "search for a cemetery" option enables you to narrow it down to county - that'll be useful.
Strangely, I noticed that St John's Kirk Old Churchyard, Covington is listed but has 0 for the number of recorded casualties. Looking further in, it states there are six Polish burials there. Unfortunately they don't provide details of these.
Do you think they might add this information at a later date? That would be a useful resource. |
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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Do you think they might add this information at a later date? |
No.
CWGC cares for tens of thousands of Non-World War Dead and Foreign National War Graves under contract and by agreement with governments rather than as part of their Royal Charter obligations. Effectively CWGC are simply maintenance contractors for these graves.
The MoD has requested that CWGC does not include the Non World War graves (most are MoD's responsibility) and it is the responsibility of the foreign governments to list their respective casualties. Being non Commonwealth, it is up Polish authorities to provide the Covington details publically if they want them made available.
Some Polish details here - http://www.polishwargraves.nl/ _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
www.kinnethmont.co.uk
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Kenneth Morrison
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 7760 Location: Rockcliffe Dalbeattie
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: |
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This does look promising. I do like the sort of "drop down" list which appears when you start to input Rank or Regiment, and I do like the Filter Option (whiich can also be used as a basic search function)
I don't like the small size of font when you print out but that's a minor moan. _________________ Ken |
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 21200 Location: Aberdeen
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: New and improved site |
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I tried it yesterday and again today so managed to find some info so hope that the promised updates correct the few faults. |
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geoff501
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Worcestershire
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David McNay Administrator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 11425 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Geoff, really impressive work there.
So the information on Polish and other nationalities is on the CWGC site but not generally accessible? |
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geoff501
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Worcestershire
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kinnethmont
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Code: | So the information on Polish and other nationalities is on the CWGC site but not generally accessible? |
The info is not (and never was) on the CWGC site, but is in the database behind it which they use in their day to day work, much like the data any business holds on it's customers. It is their own internal record.
It is not publically available for the reasons I gave earlier.
As far as I know Geoff is still accessing data he obtained which is several years out of date, but the old links from it to the CWGC info will still work. CWGC committed that existing links would work after the new database / site changes so that existing hyperlinks ( eg. here and elswhere ) would still work.
The only source of info which is " live " , ie. continually being updated, is held by CWGC. _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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geoff501
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Adam Brown Curator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 7312 Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Geoff
Many thanks for the link above. It will be of great help to the SWGP.
Kind regards
Adam |
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geoff501
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Worcestershire
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: NEW CWGC website |
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kinnethmont wrote: |
The biggest improvement is the facility to download any part of the database.
http://www.cwgc.org/ |
Anyone wishing to download the entire series (I've not tried it) might like to consider these date ranges, which should all be under the maximum allowed 75,000 records per download. Although I cannot guarantee this as I've generated these dates from Geoff's Search Engine but not tested it.
You don't get the Citation field or the Additional Information field. Not sure why not?
(I'm assuming that a record with a death date range, is allocated to the first date when searching on date)
Cheers,
geoff
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www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search14-21.php
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