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My list of WMs for Skye, Raasay and the Small Isles

 
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john hendry



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: My list of WMs for Skye, Raasay and the Small Isles Reply with quote

Hello. Cut and paste time again:Isles of Skye/Raasay/Canna/Rhum/Eigg and Muck

Visited in 1983/84, later in 1994, 2005/6. Again, mostly no photos or names, only recorded the numbers.

There are 7 parishes on Skye on my old 1” OS maps. Raasay’s men may also be commemorated on Portree’s WM. The Small Isles are just different tho they are part of Arisaig and Small Isles parish today.

I put all these names in the UKNIWM website and was blanked each time.

Parish of Kilmuir, at the top end, has three WMs.
1) for Kilmuir district location not known but, like all the others, assumed to be easily visible else I wouldn’t have found them in the first place. 12 names WW1, 3 for WW2. From townships along the A855 north of Uig ferry.
2) At Staffin, round on the N/E coast. A monument is shown on the main rd at ref 482680, 17 +7.
3) At Valtos, details on Scot War Mem website, 7 +1.

Snizort parish: location n/k but I counted 40 names from WW1, none from WW2.

Portree: in village somewhere. Details on SWM site.

Duirinish parish has 4 WMs: at Vaternish, location n.k, 24 + 7

Dunvegan, ditto, 22 + 3. Roag/Harlosh/Bay ditto, 18 + 4. Glendale, west of Dunvegan, details on SWM site

Bracadale parish: one found at Carbost, for the Minginish district, just before the Talisker distillery, on a hill side, near road but a stiff climb. 25 names counted on my first visit but 2nd time it was raining and I didn’t make the climb.

Strath: one is at Broadford, inscription all in Gaelic, near school/ Comm centre, east end of village. Second one is at Kyleakin, details on SWM site.

Sleat: at Kilmore, on the main rd to Ardrishaig. 54 + 9 + 1 killed in Aden.

Raasay WM is on the side of the road from the ferry to the only village. Photo available of the WW1 names, to be sent separately. Recorded for WW2 are Neil Gillies, RAF; Private Donald Gillies of Inverarish, A&S; a merchant seaman, sorry was using a Dictaphone and I couldn’t make out what I had said; Sgt Alan MacLeod of Clachan, RAF; Pte William McLeod of Mill Place, 4th Camerons; Trooper Alistair Nicholson of Inverarish, RAC.

Canna. Nothing found, nothing in church next to ferry. Editor of West Word (editor@westword.org.uk) suggests writing to the Postmistress on the island.

Rhum. Nothing found, not sure what sort of permanent population it had in 1914. Suggest writing to Scottish Natural Heritage who run the island.

Eigg: this is an email I got from the island (Maggie Fyffe from isleofeigg.org website)

“There is a war memorial situated in Cleadale which has the names of everyone who served in the wars (survivors & those who lost their lives). I have asked the person who compiled the list for a copy of the names which I will foward to you when I receive it.
Lastly ~ there are still around 22 people here who's families go back generations.
Regards
Maggie Fyffe
Isle of Eigg Heritage Trust
Tel/Fax: 01687 482486
www.isleofeigg.org

And the promised list is:


MAR CHUIMHNEACHAN AIR EILEANAICH EIGE, A’SHEIBHEIS AGUS A’THUIT ANNS A CHEUD CHOGADH MHÓR,
AGUS ANNS AN DARA COGADH.

IN MEMORY OF THOSE ISLANDERS WHO SERVED AND GAVE THEIR LIVES DURING THE TWO WORLD WARS.

1914-1918

Angus MacLellan, Pte, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders, Killed in Action
Archibald MacLellan, His Majesty’s Transport, Killed in Action
Donald MacLellan, Sgt, Machine Gun Corps, Military Medal, Killed in Action
John MacLellan, Pte, Gordon Highlanders
Neil MacLellan, Pte, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders

Neil Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy
Dougald MacDonald, Capt, Merchant Navy
Angus MacKinnon, Trooper, Royal Horse Artillery
Hugh MacKinnon, Pte, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders
Donald MacLeod M.M, Pte, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders
Ronald MacLeod, Guardsman, Scots Guard

1939-1945

Duncan Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy, Lost at Sea
Duncan MacIntyre, Crafstman, REME
Donald Lachlan MacKinnon, Pte, Bedfs-Herts, Killed in Action

Catherine Campbell, ATS
Catriona Campbell, ATS
Donald Archie Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy
Donald Campbell, AB, Royal Marines
Duncan Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy
Isobel Campbell, WAAFS
John Alec Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy, POW
John Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy
Lachlan Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy, POW
Mary Campbell, Capt, Queen Alexandra‘s Royal Army Nursing Corps
Neil Campbell, AB, Merchant Navy
Roddy Campbell, AB, Royal Navy
Archibald MacDonald, AB, Merchant Navy
Donald MacDonald, Pte, Royal Scots Fusilier
John Angus MacDonald, Military Police
Roddy MacDonald, AB, Merchant Navy
Angusina MacLean, ATS
Dr Hector MacLean, M.C, Medical Officer, 1st & 4th County of London Yeomanry
Mary Anne MacLean, ATS
Rachel MacLean, ATS
Iain MacLeod, AB, Merchant Navy
Lachlan MacKinnon, AB, Merchant Navy
Morag MacKinnon, Capt, Queen Alexandra‘s Royal Army Nursing Corps
Roddy MacKinnon, AB, Merchant Navy
Iain MacQuarrie, AB, Merchant Navy
Charles Thompson, AB, Merchant Navy

BITHIDH SINN ‘NAR COMAIN GÙ SIORRAIDH AIRSON AR MISNEACH AGUS AR DAIGHNEACHD A THUG SIBH SEACHAD AIRSON AN DÙTHAICH AGAIBH.

WE SHALL BE FOREVER INDEBTED TO YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY AND SACRIFICE.

Seems strange that more names are listed as having served in WW2 than WW1. From a book on the island, there were 10 who died, not just the three MacLellans, but this is how the email came to me. However, another book says Duncan MacLellan had 4 sons, 3 (Archie, Angus and Donald) died in the war and Neil, as a result of the effects of gas, died in Rome in mid 1919. Perhaps the 11 named were deaths and, when WW2 came round, the community decided to commemorate all who served, not just the two who died.

Also, the list doesn’t include the following, a memorial tablet in the church near the ferry terminal: “In loving memory of David Campbell MacEwen, 2nd lieutenant, 9th Battalion Royal Scots who was mortally wounded in the Battle of arras April 17th, 1917 aged 37.”


Muck. Nothing found, there isn’t even a church. There is a website run by a Anne White who tells me that only one person from the island served in WW1 and that was a Commander W I L MacEwen who survived and served in WW2 as well. Seems hard to believe even if the population was only 40 or 50.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,

I found the featured card attached to a wreath which was placed at the new Scottish Memorial at Frezenburg a couple of weeks ago.
The casualties that it represents overwhelmed me.
Can you confirm the facts?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I can't. The font is a bit unusual to read but the district looks like TORRIN.

There is a township on Skye, 5 miles south of Broadford on the road to Elgol.

As you say, the numbers seem too high for what we know of Skyes population and war effort.

I can only think that Torrin is an old anme used by the islanders for a large district.

The parish is shown on my old 1" map as Strath and there are 2 WMs, in Broadford and Kyleakin. If there were a third, this could be right.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone help sort out John's list for the Skye memorials only and work out what we've got on the forum? I'm not sure we have some of these under different names.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what John has listed

There are 7 parishes on Skye on my old 1” OS maps.

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Parish of Kilmuir


1. for Kilmuir district location not known but, like all the others, assumed to be easily visible else I wouldn’t have found them in the first place. 12 names WW1, 3 for WW2. From townships along the A855 north of Uig ferry. We have it on the forum as Kilmuir War Memorial

2. At Staffin, round on the N/E coast. A monument is shown on the main rd at ref 482680, 17 +7. We have it on the forum as Stenscholl (Staffin)

3. At Valtos, details on Scot War Mem website, 7 +1. We have it on the forum as Culnacnoc or Valtos (Bhaltos)

**John didn't have Kilmaluag War Memorial on his list

**or Uig War Memorial

Snizort parish

1. Location n/k but I counted 40 names from WW1, none from WW2.

Portree

1. in village somewhere. Details on SWM site. We have it on the forum as Portree

Duirinish parish

1. Vaternish, location n.k, 24 + 7We have it on the forum as Waternish War Memorial

2. Dunvegan, ditto, 22 + 3. Looks like John's notes are wrong and 2 and 3 are actually one memorial which we have on the forum as Dunvegan, Roag and Harlosh

3. Roag/Harlosh/Bay ditto, 18 + 4.

4. Glendale, west of Dunvegan, details on SWM site We have it on the forum as Glendale War Memorial

**We also seem to have Struan which John has missed.

Bracadale parish

1. One found at Carbost, for the Minginish district, just before the Talisker distillery, on a hill side, near road but a stiff climb. 25 names counted on my first visit but 2nd time it was raining and I didn’t make the climb. We have it on the forum as Minginish

Strath

1. one is at Broadford, inscription all in Gaelic, near school/ Comm centre, east end of village. We have it on the forum as Broadford War Memorial
2. Second one is at Kyleakin, details on SWM site. We have it on the forum as Kyleakin War Memorial

Sleat

1. At Kilmore, on the main rd to Ardrishaig. 54 + 9 + 1 killed in Aden.We have it on the forum as Sleat War Memorial

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**There is also Skeabost WW2 Memorial Hall


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, to me that looks like only one is outstanding

Snizort parish

1. Location n/k but I counted 40 names from WW1, none from WW2.

Any suggestions?

I wonder if this is the First World War Memorial for Skeabost whcih we don't have? I found a refernence to Bernisdale being in Snizort Parish and that is near Skeabost.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
I wonder if this is the First World War Memorial for Skeabost whcih we don't have? I found a refernence to Bernisdale being in Snizort Parish and that is near Skeabost.


Maybe not. It looks like the memorial at Portree covers Skeabost for the Great War.

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