The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

Anniespangles · Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 26

Hi again ,I as some might know have been making up folders for each man named on the Dumbarton War Memorial,its now extended to any soldier who fought in WW1 who came from Dumbarton.I would love to have as much info as possible on each soldier but with so many men to collect info on it can get a bit sticky sometimes. My project is coming on really well.The bulk of the information Iam collecting is from the Lennox Herald Newspaper which has been a joy but time consuming,I also have had information from this forum and others,local people and any bits and bobs Ive stumbled across on my way.

One person among others I would like to ask about is a Dr Rev Michael Gordon.All I have is a picture with underneath it written Army Chaplin of Dumbarton ,died of wounds in France.I'd like to add more to his folder and to ask if you would help me out if I came to you with any other sparsley filled folders,most of my folders I am pleased to say are ok.I don't want anyone spending money or anything ,just if you had any info already in your files that would be fantastic.Thanks Anne

David McNay · Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject:

Moved to Queries and Requests.

DelBoy · Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: Rev Gordon

(from The Scotsman 31st of August 1917)

GORDON, The Rev. MICHAEL PATRICK
Rank: Chaplain 4th Class
Date of Death: 27/08/1917
Age: 34
Regiment/Service: Army Chaplains' Department attd. XV Corps.
Grave Reference: III. C. 13.
Cemetery: COXYDE MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Michael and Mary Gordon, of Chapelton House, Dumbarton. D.D.

Derek.

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Revd Fr. Michael Patrick Gordon
Chaplain 4th Class, Army Chaplains’ Department
Attd XV Corps Age 34

Son of Michael and Mary Gordon of Chapelton House, Dumbarton
Doctor of Divinity, Priest of the Glasgow RC Diocese
DoW 27.08.17. Wounded previous day by counter bombardment fire which struck his billet at Coxyde. Buried Coxyde Military Cemetery, Belgium Grave III.C.13
Listed on the ACD Memorial at Aldershot
No photo
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Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk

Anniespangles · Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 26

Thanks for the info its now in the Dr Gordons folder Very Happy

Can you aiad me if possible with some others?

All the info I have for a John Stevenson is his address 1 Victoria St Dumbarton.

Private William McCulloch A&S.H.2nd Battalion had a cousin Lance Corproal James McCulloch can anyone tell me if James was a native of Dumbarton?

What was the first name of soldier McCallum 43 Collage St Dumbarton.Joined the4th Argylls in August 1915 but was later transferred to the 2nd Battalion.He served in the Boer War has a medal and 2 clasps.He was wounded in the back Oct 1915.

If anyone knows anything about these soilders that would be great.
Thanks Anne x

Mike Morley · Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:12 am Post subject:

Annie,

Don't know if this is the right man but we have a Lance-Corporal James McCulloch commemorated here on Wigtown War Memorial. He enlisted at Ayr with the 1st Battalion Gordon Highlanders. He died on 13 November 1916 at Serre and is commemorated on the Thiepval memorial.

However, it's a fairly common name!

Mike

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Anniespangles · Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 26

Thankyou ,you have the right James McCulloch the only other wee piece I have on him is he died at Lille from a gunshot wound.If I find out anymore about him on my travels I will let you know if you like?

John Stevenson,I think its amazing how you found him just from the 1 Victoria street address! That was all I had on him and only because he wrote to the Rev Clarks wife thanking her for the socks as he hadn't changed in a month,he said thing were getting bad since the use of gas shells had become more common, or words to that effect.The letter was published in the Lennox Herald Newspaper.

Iam not to hot on the PC but I am hopeing Hubby is going to give me a lesson soon so I can upload images to the forum. Smile

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Annie

If Stevenson died due to gassing before August 1921 his could be a CWGC non commemorated war death.
Let me know if you find out more.
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Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk

spoons · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject:

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Annie

I have put McCulloch forward to have his christian name included in the CWGC record.

He did not die at Lille.
He died of GSW buttock and left arm in 19th Field Ambulance and was originally buried at Edwards's Linen Factory, Bac-St. Maur near Armentiers.
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Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk

Anniespangles · Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 26

Thanks Jim,I have got that he died in Lille from our local news paper the Lennox Herald.Iam back at the library tomorrow so I will check this out and let you know what it says, not unless I am in a muddle, its tricky when I have some notes at home and the bulk of the project at the library.Oh as for the Edward Gordon photo ,you are right,I will take it out until I hopefully find proof that he is Edward in the service return. Thanks for your guidance I really appreciate it. Smile

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Annie
I should have added that 19th Field Ambulance was at Bac-St. Maur at the time of his death, hence the original burial there. It is about 15 miles from Lille, but nearer Armentiers.
_________________
Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk

Anniespangles · Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 26

Ah ok that might fit with what I have here then?

DIED FROM GUN-SHOT WOUNDS - Official intimation has been received from the Colonel in charge of the records,Perth of the death of Lance-Corporal James McCulloch,2nd Battalion of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.A special reservist,he was called up at the outbreak of war,and proceeded to France with the First Expeditionary Force,and took part in the great retreat.He was promoted Lance Corporal,but was killed shortly afterwards at Lille,by gun-shot.His cousin,Private William McCulloch,of the same regiment,writing home to his mother at Henryshott,Dumbarton, notified them of the manner of his death.Lance Corporal was for a long number of years in the Militia ,and joined the Special Reserve when that body disbanded. DUMBARTONS LENNOX HERALD NEWSPAPER 1915.

Just one thing I noticed that doesn't fit and that is- Date of Death:30/10/14 ?

Anne

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Annie

The press are often wrong, he did not die in Lille.