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Landsborough Church Memorial Windows, Saltcoats - Lost?

 
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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Landsborough Church Memorial Windows, Saltcoats - Lost? Reply with quote

The Scotsman of Monday, 11th April 1921, page 5 has a short article about the unveiling of memorial windows in Landsborough Church, Saltcoats. In 1968 this church merged with Trinity Church and used the Trinity Church buildings. I fear the worse for these windows.

Hopefully a local paper from April 1921 records the names of the men they commemorated.

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Memorial windows were unveiled yesterday in Landsborough Church, Saltcoats, in memory of fourteen men belonging to the congregation who fell in the war. Rev. W.D. W. Sutherland, Kirriemuir and Roy. W. B. Hutton officiated, and the windows were unveiled by Major Yuille. There was a large congregation, including many returned soldiers. A floral wreath from the children was placed at the base. At the same service a window erected in memory of Mr E. S. Wilson, session clerk and superintendent of the Sabbath school, was unveiled by Mr George Muro Ritchie, London.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mention here about stained glass windows in Landsborough Trinity Church - possibly the ones referenced in the Scotsman?

http://www.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/chiefexec/minutes.nsf/ec228e1695557b8d8025708400347ce6/168117015bb0bf478025680f005786b4?OpenDocument
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent find David. That was back in 1996 so the question is where are they now 13 years later, and were they the Landsborough windows or Trinity windows?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:04 pm    Post subject: Landsborough Church War memorial window Reply with quote

Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald 15 April 1921

The first part of the article relates to the dedication of a window to Mr Wilson. The part of the article relevant to the War Memorial window is as follows


“Rev Mr Sutherland then delivered a most appropriate and impressive discourse on “the deep things of life”, in the course of which he said that death was one of the deep mysteries, especially the death of the young. There was nothing mysterious about a building being unfinished, as work only stopped for a time but we were inclined to ask regarding the number of lives that had been lost on the battlefields - “What was the meaning of it all?” To that question, there was no reply. The heavens were as brass. This was one of the deep things of God.

REV MR SUTHERLAND'S TRIBUTE

After the sermon, part of the 23rd Psalm was sung to the old tune, “Covenanters”, and before proceeding to pay his tribute, Rev Mr Sutherland read out the names of the fallen, while the congregation reverently stood. Rev Mr Sutherland then spoke as follows:- Now I turn from the consideration of these things that have thus far occupied our thoughts to the more immediate duty that has brought me back to the pulpit I used to know so well - a duty which Mr Hutton had the session have done me the honour of laying upon me, and which, difficult and trying though it is, I deeply appreciate. Death has made many changes among you within the last three years, and I miss more than one well know face, with mingled feelings. The last time I stood here I took part in the funeral service of one who for half a century nourished his piety within these walls and for nearly that length of time took a foremost part in the oversight of the congregation and in the affairs of the Church. I am glad indeed that it has been in your heart to enshrine his memory in the beautiful window that was unveiled earlier in the service, and it seems to me that there is a singular appropriateness in this completion of the threefold window just behind where the three men, whose names they bear, were wont for so many years to sit in line with each other - Dr Kinnier, Captain Fullarton and Mr Wilson … You all know what a fine type of man Mr Wilson was. You all know how gracious he was, how courtly of manner, and how he loved this church, and spent himself for it. He will never fade from your memory, and this window will minister to your children and your children’s children as a memorial to the memory of as fine a Christian gentleman as ever trod the streets of the old grey town. We are now to unveil another window, and not this time in memory of one who had lived out his days on earth and passed away peacefully, without a pang and without a sigh, but to the memory of 14 others, some of them barely out of their teens, more than one of them baptized by me - one of them bearing my name, and all of them in the morning and promise of life. Surely if the words of that inspired writer apply to any they apply to them - Those are they which came out of the great tribulation. They went forth to the cruel battlefield and to the perilous paths of the sea, not knowing what was in store for them, only knowing that their lives were not their own and that by giving themselves in sacrifice in that way of duty they helped to purchase victory and liberty for us. In one sense all these young men finished their work. In another sense they left their work unfinished, and in leaving it unfinished they have placed in our hands the unfulfilled programme of their lives. If we keep this in mind and carry with us that thought, that our life is not wholly ours as their life was not wholly theirs, but is our country’s too, and if we try to be as serviceable to our country, our torn, tortured and distracted country, as we can be, we shall do something towards healing the sorrows and solving the problems, and they are very grave problems, that the aftermath of war has brought with it, and what a memorial that would be to us! With the relatives of these young men I deeply sympathise as you all do. Sometimes one’s heart has bled for them, and yet it is so difficult to say anything that will help. God grant that with His Own healing power, and the healing power of time, they may yet be able with tranquil hearts to share the feelings of gratitude and pride that have led you to dedicate this window as an undying memorial to the valour, endurance and sufferings of their beloved dead.

Major Yuille, R.S.F. Kilmarnock, then proceeded to the window and removed the immense Union Jack, which covered it, thereby unveiling the memorial (as he stated) to the memory of his dear comrades who laid down their lives for King and country. Thereafter little Miss Peggy Lamb, Sharphill Road, as representing the children of the congregation, placed a handsome floral wreath at the base of the window. “The Last Post” and “Revielle” was then sounded, followed by the Lament on the bagpipes played in one of the church corridors. This was the most impressive part of the service, and many of the congregation were deeply affected.

After the singing of the National Anthem, the “Hallelujah Chorus” was played on the organ by Mr Fulton

Dr Wilson, Liverpool, and Mrs William Hunter, Caledonia Road, Saltcoats, son and daughter of the late Mr E S Wilson, were present at the service

DESCRIPTION OF MEMORIAL WINDOWS


The soldiers’ memorial window is the work of Messrs Knox Bros., Glasgow. The figure in centre light represents “The Conqueror” and shows a soldier, in full armour, cloak, tunic. Etc., holding in right hand a banner inscribed “I have fought a good fight;”, left hand resting on a shield with a cross. Over the banner is the figure of a dove descending from cloudland shaded in rays. The figure in left light represents “Faith” and shows an angel supporting cross entwined with lillies, suggestive of the graves in France and Belgium; the left hand of figure pointing to scroll with the inscription “He that overcometh shall inherit all things”. Above the figure is the emblem of the vine with crown in centre. The figure in right light represents victory, and shows an angel pointing upward with right hand, having in left hand a laurel wreath. The scroll above the figure has the inscription “More than conquerors through him that loved us”. There is also the emblem of the vine with cross in centre. At the base supporting figure in black and gold is the inscription “To the glory of God and in reverent and grateful remembrance of the men of Landsborough Church who during the great war, 1914-1918, counted not their lives dear unto themselves” “They were a wall unto us both by day and night” The names of the fallen are on either side of the inscription, surmounted with lily border. The roll of the fallen is as follows

Archibald McAllister
Hugh Grubb
James Havlin
William McKenzie
John McKirdy
James Little
James Lynn
John Miller
Robert Neil
James Orr
William Russell
John Spiers
Robert Smith
Wm D.M.S. McSkimming

The Memorial window to the late Mr E S Wilson shows the figure of St Paul with a book in hand”
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:15 pm    Post subject: Landsborough Church War memorial window Reply with quote



Postcard courtesy of North Ayrshire Heritage Centre, Saltcoats. Landsborough Church with steeple. Demolished and now the site of the labour club
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:19 pm    Post subject: Landsborough Stained Glass Windows Reply with quote

http://www.kirkgatechurch.org.uk/landsborough-and-trinity-1889-1989/

"SOME INTERESTING FACTS – LANDSBOROUGH MEMORIALS
Landsborough church also had a number of memorials. It was only right and fitting that these were preserved. Although it was a very costly procedure, the stained glass windows were very expertly dismantled piece by piece and re-installed in the United Church.

One window commemorated the ministry of the Rev David Scott DD. Another window commemorated John Galloway of Kilmeny, Ardrossan, who by a coincidence, laid the memorial stone in the present building. A third window commemorated John and Margaret Brown, their sons John, James and William and their daughter Margaret.

At the back of the gallery three slained glass windows were dedicated to the men from Landsborough who gave their lives in the First World War.

In the church vestibule there was a wooden plaque bearing the names of the men of Landsborough who fought and died in the Second World War."
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Margaret, welcome and thanks very much for the information.

Would it be at all possible to get photos of the windows and the WW2 plaque?

Anne Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 8:57 pm    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number Reply with quote

WMR 76424
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