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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Kirtle Church Parisioners Reply with quote

I had originally intended to post this as a civic memorial, but then I realised that all but 2 of the names are on the Eaglesfield Bowling Club civic memorial that is alreadly posted.

Not listed on UKNIWM.

The memorial is inside Kirtle Church at OS Map Ref: NY 237 726

This memorial must be considered to be at risk because the church only has a service every second week and there is talk of it closing altogether.

2ND LIEUT R LOUIS I ARNOTT, WYSEBY, QVO CORPS OF GUIDES
PTE ROBERT BYERS, CRECA, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
SIGNALLER JAMES COCHRANE, BRAES LODGE, KOSB
SIGNALLER ROBERT CRAIK, KIRTLEBRIDGE, LONDON REGT
PTE ARCHIE DOWNIE, EAGLESFIELD, ROYAL SCOTS
PTE GEORGE HINSELWOOD, EAGLESFIELD, KOSB
PTE ALAN IRVING, STIRKPOOL, MACHINE GUN CORPS
PTE GEORGE LAWSON, EAGLESFIELD, ROYAL SCOTS
LCE CPL JAMES G LOCKERBIE, THORNWELL, KOSB
GUNNER WILLIAM MARTINDALE, GREYCRAIG, RGA
LCE SERGT GEORGE H J MIDDLEMISS, SPRINGKELL, SCOTS GUARDS
PTE JAMES MITCHELL, SPRINGKELL, R S FUSILIERS
PTE THOMAS McLELLAN, EAGLESFIELD, R S FUSILIERS
PTE JOHN MUNDLE, EAGLESFIELD, KOSB
TROOPER WILLIAM B PORTEOUS, EAGLESFIELD, LANARKS YEO
PTE JAMES RILEY, EAGLESFIELD, KOSB
PTE GORDON THOMSON, STONEPARK, CAMERON HIGHRS
PTE ROBERT G WALLACE, EAGLESFIELD, ROYAL SCOTS
CPL CHARLES WAUGH, WILLOWSBANK, GORDON HIGHRS
CUNNER ANDREW G WILSON, EAGLESFIELD, TANK CORPS

20 names

All except McLellan and Byers are listed on the Eaglesfield Bowling Club memorial.

Byers should arguably be on the Annan memorial, but is not; and McLellan should be on the Eaglesfield Bowling Club memorial. McLellan’s date of death is recorded on CWGC as 9th November 1918 Crying or Very sad and is buried locally in Middlebie cemetery so not sure how they managed to miss him.

A puzzle about Arnott - how did a Scot end up with a Regiment I have never heard of, serving with the Indian Army and die in Palestine?

A treasure for researchers this one.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Kirtle Church Parisioners Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
A puzzle about Arnott - how did a Scot end up with a Regiment I have never heard of, serving with the Indian Army and die in Palestine?


I looked him up in CWGC

Name: ARNOTT, ROBERT LOUIS IRVING
Initials: R L I
Nationality: Indian
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Queen Victoria's Own Corps of Guides Infantry (F.F.) (Lumsden's)
Unit Text: 1st Bn. attd 3rd Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 19/09/1918
Additional information: Son of Brigade Surgeon Lt. Col. James Arnott and Isabella Louisa Arnott, of Wyseby, Kirtlebridge, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 57.
Memorial: JERUSALEM MEMORIAL

According to the CWGC website 150,000 Indians served in Palestine. Queen Victoria's Own Corps of Guides Infantry (F.F.) (Lumsden's) Infantry
are also known by the shortened title of the Guides infantry

Looking up ‘Sons of John Company’ by John Gaylor it looks like the 3rd Bn didn’t serve outside India. 1st and 2nd Bn both served in Palestine though so he was perhaps 3rd Bn attached 1st Bn.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2nd Lt Arnott is also commemorated in St Cuthbert's Church in Edinburgh.

I've posted the memorial here

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Kirtle Church Parisioners Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
PTE JOHN MUNDLE, EAGLESFIELD, KOSB


This is a mis-spelling. John Mundell enlisted in the 5th KOSB, but served overseas with the 7/8th Battalion:

SNWM
Surname: MUNDELL
Firstname: John
Service Number: 40225
Date Death: 09/04/1917
Place of birth: Ecclefechan Dumfries
Other: 7/8th Bn. THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.

CWGC
Additional information: Son of Mrs. G. White, of Eaglesfield, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire.
Age: 32
Memorial: Arras Memorial
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now memorial 71686 on the WMR (ex UKNIWM)
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:53 am    Post subject: Robert Byres GH Reply with quote

Robert Byers Pte 291466 1st Gordon Highlanders b Kilpatrick, Dumfries e Annan Age 20 Died of Wounds F&F 05/05/1918 Son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Byers, of Creca, Annan, Dumfriesshire. Soldiers Effects: Mother: Elizabeth. Soldiers Effects: Mother: Elizabeth. Soldiers Will 4 pages. Pernes British Cemetery Fr 0010 Plot II Row A Grave 47 Dumfries and Galloway Standard 18-5-18 Page 3 Kirtle Church
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:55 am    Post subject: Charles Waugh GH Reply with quote

Charles Waugh Corporal S/2660 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Langholm, Dumfries e Glenboig Age 27 Killed in Action West-Vlaanderen, Belgium 04/10/1917 Son of David and Elizabeth Waugh, of Willow Bank, Kirtlebridge, Dumfriesshire. Occ: Clerk in employment of the Caledonian Railway Company at Glenboig, Lanarkshire. Soldiers Effects: Father: David. Tyne Cot Memorial M. R. 30 Panel 135 to 136 Dumfries & Gallow Standard 7-11-17 Page 2 The Scotsman 13-11-17 P8: Kirtlebridge. Glenboig & Kirtle Church
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2nd LIEUT R. LOUIS I. ARNOTT, WYSEBY, Q.V.O. CORPS OF GUIDES.
Robert Louis Irving Arnott – age 19 – Lieutenant, 1st battalion attached to the 3rd Battalion, Queen Victoria's Own Corps of Guides Infantry (Frontier Force) (Lumsden's) India Army.
Robert was educated at Edinburgh Academy and, as a King's Cadet, went to the Wellington Cadet College in India. He was commissoned from there as a second Lieutenant in the Indian Army in January 1918.
Born 1899 in St. George, Edinburgh. Son of Brigade Surgeon Lt. Col. James Arnott and Isabella Louisa (Taylor) Arnott of 8 Rothesay Place, Edinburgh and of Wyseby, Kirtlebridge.
Missing in Action on 19 September 1918 and named on the Jerusalem Memorial, Israel.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial, on the Edinburgh Academy memorial and on an individual memorial in St. Cuthbert's Church in Edinburgh.


PTE. ROBERT BYERS, CRECA, GORDON HIGHLANDERS.
Robert Byers – age 20 – Private (291466) 1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders.
Robert was working at Sarkshields Farm, Eaglesfield when he enlisted. He died in the 4th Canadian Casualty Clearing Station at Pernes.
Born 1898 at Todknowes, Dornock, Dumfriesshire. Son of Adam and Elizabeth Jane (Kerr) Byers of Creca, Annan, Dumfriesshire.
Died of Wounds on 5 May 1918 and buried in Pernes British Cemetery, France.


SIGNALLER JAMES COCHRANE, BRAES LODGE, K.O.S.B.
James Cochrane – age 34 – Private/Signaller (241598) 1/4th (Border) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
James had been a Postman in Dumfries since 1903 when he enlisted in the 1/5th KOSB in June 1916. He transferred to 1/4th Battalion and served in Palestine, where he was wounded near Jerusalem, and in France after his Division moved there in April 1918.
Born 1883 in Middlebie. Son of David and Mary (Farish) Cochrane of Brae's Lodge, Kirtlebridge. Husband of Annie (Geddes) Cochrane of 21 Laurieknowe, Maxwelltown who he married in 1907 in Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Killed in Action on 1 September 1918 and buried in Queant Road Cemetery, Buissy, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial, on the Maxwelltown/Troqueer War Memorial, on the Laurieknowe Church Memorial, now in Troqueer Parish Church, and on the Post Office memorial in Dumfries.


SIGNALLER ROBERT CRAIK, KIRTLEBRIDGE, LONDON REGT.
Robert Craik – age 22 – Rifleman (5120 & 372476) 2nd/8th Battalion, London Regiment (Post Office Rifles)
Robert had worked in the Post Office in Kirtlebridge before he transferred to Dumbarton. He enlisted from there in January 1916 and he was a Signaller when he was killed when his working party was hit by a shell. Most of the party were killed.
Born 1894 Kirtlebridge, Middlebie. Son of John and Agnes (Graham) Craik, of the Post Office, Kirtlebridge.
Killed in Action on 6 September 1917 and buried in Track X Cemetery, Belgium.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
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PTE. ARCHIE DOWNIE, EAGLESFIELD, ROYAL SCOTS.
Archibald Downie – age 18 – Private (44355) 1/9th (Highlanders) Battalion, Royal Scots.
Archie was an apprentice gardener when he enlisted as Private (2/2199) in the 52nd Training Battalion in August 1917. He transferred to the 4th (Reserve) of the Highland Light Infantry in December and he and his school mate, Robert Wallace (see below) , were posted to the Royal Scots in France on 3 April 1918. Nine days later they were both killed.
Born 1899 in Middlebie. Son of John and Maggie (Farnell) Downie of Beech Cottage, Eaglesfield.
Missing in Action on 12 April 1918 and named on the Ploegsteert Memorial, Belgium.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield.


PTE. GEORGE HINSELWOOD, EAGLESFIELD, K.O.S.B.
Note: CWGC spells his name as Hinslewood.
George Hinselwood – age 28 – Private (29292) 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
George was posted to the 2nd KOSB before transferring to the 7th/8th KOSB.
Born 1889 in Middlebie (as Hinselwood). Son of James and Mary Ann (Sime) Hinselwood of Eaglesfield. Husband of Catherine (Taylor) Hinselwood who he married in 1916 in St. Ninians, Stirling.
Missing in Action on 9 April 1917 and named on the Arras Memorial, France.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial (as Hinshelwood) and on the Eaglesfield War Memorial (as Hinselwood)


PTE. ALAN IRVING, STIRKPOOL, MACHINE GUN CORPS.
Allan Irving – age 19 – Private (159758) 4th Reserve Battalion or 47th Battalion, Machine Gun Corps.
Allan was “found drowned” but the circumstances are unknown.
Born 1899 in Crawford, Lanarkshire as Allan. Son of the late Joseph Irving (a railwayman) and of Agnes Irving of Strikpool, Kirtlebridge and of Boreland, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire.
Died on Service on 5 January 1919 and buried in Cabaret-Rouge British Cemetery, Souchez, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.


PTE. GEORGE LAWSON, EAGLESFIELD, ROYAL SCOTS.
George Lawson – age 34 – Private (34531) 7th Battalion, Royal Scots.
George was a partner in a carting contractor business and was living in Drove Road, Langholm, Dumfriesshire when he enlisted. He was wounded while serving with the 2nd Royal Scots and was evacuated to hospital in Sheffield in February 1917. He was posted to the 1/7th Royal Scots in Palestine but was drowned when the Troopship “Aragon” was torpedoed and sunk by the German submarine UC34 as she waited to dock outside Alexandria Harbour.
Born 1883 at Viewfield, Middlebie. Son of Elizabeth (Lawson) White of Eaglesfield and step-son of George White who married in 1890 in Middlebie.
George was a brother of John Mundle or Mundell, Private (40225) 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. (See below)
Killed by enemy action/Lost at Sea on 30 December 1917 and named on the Chatby Memorial, Egypt.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Langholm War Memorial.
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LCE. CPL. JAMES C. LOCKERBIE, THORNWELL, K.O.S.B.
James Coulter Lockerbie – age 19 – Lance Corporal (18474) 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
James joined his battalion in France in December 1915.
Born 1897 in Middlebie as James Coulter. Son of the late Mary Agnes (Coulter) Lockerbie and step-son of James Lockerbie of Thornwell, Springkell, Eaglesfield who married in 1898 in Middlebie.
Missing in Action on 13 August 1916 and named on the Thiepval Memorial to the Missing of the Somme, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield.


GUNNER WILLIAM MARTINDALE, GREYCRAIG, R.G.A.
William Martindale – age 32 – Gunner (206177) 296th Siege Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery.
William was employed in Gretna when he enlisted in March 1918. He went to France in September but was killed a month later when sheltering behind a wall which was hit by a shell and collapsed on him.
Born 1885 in Hutton and Corrie, Dumfriesshire. Son of the late Edward Masterton Martindale and of Agnes (Coulthart) Martindale of Woodhousemill, Kirkpatrick Fleming. Husband of Margaret (Davidson) Martindale of Greycraig, Kirtlebridge and of Littledyke, Dalton, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire who he married in 1910 in Gretna.
Killed in Action on 24 October 1918 and buried in Wassigny Communal Cemetery, Aisne, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Kirkpatrick Fleming Parish War Memorial.


LCE. SERGT. GEORGE H. J. MIDDLEMISS, SPRINGKELL, SCOTS GUARDS.
George Henry James Middlemiss – age 26 – Lance Sergeant (10149) 1st Battalion, Scots Guards.
George joined his battalion in France in February 1915. He died in the 46th Casualty Clearing Station at Mendinghem.
Born 1891 Maiden Erlegh, Wokingham, Berkshire. Son of the late Rose Emma (Harris) Middlemiss and of George Middlemiss (coachman) of Springkell Stables, Eaglesfield.
Died of Wounds on 10 October 1917 and buried in Mendinghem Mlitary Cemetery, Belgium.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial, on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield.
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PTE. JAMES MITCHELL, SPRINGKELL, R. S. FUSILIERS.
Thought to be:
Charles Edward Mitchell – age 27 – Private (295894) 12th (Ayr and Lanark Yeomanry) Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
In 1911 Charles was a servant with Jacob Wakefield, Gunpowder Manfacturer, at Sedgewick in Westmoreland. He enlisted as Private (2223) in the Lanarkshire Yeomanry in Lanark in September 1914 and landed with the 1/1st Battalion at Gallipoli in October 1915. After being evacuated from Gallipoli they merged with the Ayrshire Yeomanry to form the 12th Royal Scots Fusiliers in January 1917. This new unit served in Egypt and Palestine before they moved to France in May 1918. Charles died in the 83rd General Hospital in Boulogne.
Born 1891 at Hart, Hartlepool, County Durham. Son of John and Louisa Mitchell of Hart, West Hartlepool.
Died on Service on 19 November 1918 and buried in Terlincthun British Cemetery, Wimille, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial (as James Mitchell), on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield (as Pte. James Mitchell, Royal Scots Fusiliers, 19 Nov. 1918)


PTE. THOMAS McLELLAN, EAGLESFIELD, R. S. FUSILIERS.
Thomas McLellan – age 18 – Private (62742) 4th (Reserve) Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
Thomas was serving at Kinross in Fife when he contracted pneumonia and died in the Military Hospital in Dunfermline.
Born 1900 in Eagelsfield, Middlebie. Son of Janet McLellan and of James Theodore McMaster. Janet, aged 54 married James, 57, in 1916 in Middlebie.
Died on Service on 9 November 1918 and buried in Middlebie Cemetery.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.


PTE. JOHN MUNDLE, EAGLESFIELD, K.O.S.B.
Note: All military records spell his name as Mundell.
John Mundell – age 32 – Private (40225) 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
John was a tailor in Eaglesfield when he enlisted in January 1915. He went to France in August 1916.
Born 1885 at Old Bar, Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfriesshire as John Mundle. Son of Adam Mundle and of Elizabeth Lawson. Step-son of George White who married Elizabeth in 1890 in Middlebie.
John was a brother of George Lawson, Private (34531) 7th Battalion, Royal Scots. (See above)
Missing in Action on 9 April 1917 and named on the Arras Memorial, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
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TROOPER WILLIAM B. PORTEOUS, EAGLESFIELD, LANARKS. YEO.
William Beattie Porteous – age 29 – Private (2225) 1/1st Lanarkshire Yeomanry.
William landed with his battalion at Gallipoli in October 1915 where they served as infantry. He died during the evacuation of Cape Helles bridgehead.
Born 1886 in Middlebie as William David Beattie. Son of Agnes Beattie who married David Buglass in 1890 in Edinburgh.
In 1901 William Porteous, aged 14, was a farm servant living with his aunt Robina Porteous in Eaglesfield. His mother and her husband David Buglass, a plumber, were living in Killin in Perthshire.
Killed in Action on 27 December 1915 and buried in Pink Farm Cemetery, Helles, Gallipoli, Turkey.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield.


PTE. JAMES RILEY, EAGLESFIELD, K.O.S.B.
James Riley – age 20 – Private (23373) 2nd Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
James had served his apprenticeship as a tailor in Eaglesfield but was a chauffeur at Glenlochar House, Townhead of Greenlaw, Crossmichael, Kirkcudbrightshire when he enlisted in April 1916.
Born 1895 at Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfriesshire. Son of John and Martha (Farnell) Riley of Townhead of Greenlaw, Crossmichael and of Marks Farm, Kirkcudbright.
Missing in Action on 25 September 1916 and named on the Thiepval Memorial to the Missing of the Somme, France.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial, on the Crossmichael Parish War Memorials and on the Roll of Honour in Crossmichael Parish Church.


PTE. GORDON THOMSON, STONEYPARK, CAMERON HIGHRS.
Gordon Thomson – age 25 – Private (S/13933) 7th Battalion, Cameron Highlanders.
Gordon was brought up on his grandfather's farm of Stonepark, Langshaw, Kirtlebridge and was working there when he enlisted in October 1914. He landed with his battalion at Boulogne in July 1915 but was killed two months later at the Battle of Loos.
Born c.1890 in England – possibly Carlisle. Son of Maggie or Margaret Thomson, later Mrs. James Holt of Mouswald, Dumfriesshire and of Captainton, Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire. Grandson of Robert Thomson of Stonepark Farm.
Missing in Action on 25 September 1915 and named on the Loos Memorial, France.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.


PTE. ROBERT C. WALLACE, EAGLESFIELD, ROYAL SCOTS.
Robert Cowan Wallace – age 18 – Private (44379) 1/9th (Highlanders) Battalion, Royal Scots.
Robert enlisted as Private (2/2192) in the 52nd Training Battalion in August 1917. He transferred to the 4th (Reserve) of the Highland Light Infantry in December and he and his school mate, Archie Downie (see above), were posted to the Royal Scots in France on 3 April 1918. Nine days later they were both killed.
Born 1899 in Eaglesfield, Middlebie. Son of William and Mary (Cowan) Wallace of Ivy Cottage, Eaglesfield.
Killed in Action on 12 April 1918 and named on the Tyne Cot Cemetery, Belgium.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
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CPL. CHARLES WAUGH, WILLOWBANK, GORDON HIGHRS.
Charles Waugh – age 27 – Corporal (S/2660) 2nd Battalion, Gordon Highlanders.
Charles was a clerk with the Caledonian Railway at Glenboig Lanarkshire when he enlisted in 1914. He joined his battalion in France in March 1915.
Born 1890 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire. Son of David and Elizabeth (Johnston) Waugh of Willow Bank, Kirtlebridge.
Missing in Action on 4 October 1917 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.
Also named on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial, on the Glenboig War Memorial and on the Caledonian Railway Company memorial in Glasgow Central Station.


GUNNER ANDREW G. WILSON, EAGLESFIELD, TANK CORPS.
Thought to be:
Andrew Graham Wilson – age 19 – Private (306120) 6th Battalion, Tank Corps.
Andrew enlisted in Greenock as Private (420581) Renfrewshire, Royal Engineers.
Born 1899 in St. Mungo, Dumfriesshire. Son of Andrew and Mary Robertson (Graham) Wilson of St. Mungo.
Killed in Action on 8 October 1918 and buried in Busigny Communal Cemetery Extension, France.
Also named on the St. Mungo Parish War Memorial in the parish church in Kettleholm village, on the Lockerbie War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
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