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A Morris
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:39 pm Post subject: Perthshire Advertiser 12th June 1918 |
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Hi,
I would be very grateful to anybody who could provide me the details published in the Perth Advertiser on the 12th June 1918 on the death of 84168 L/Bdr William Donaldson who was KIA on the 31st May 1918 while serving with D Battery 231 Brigade RFA.
Rgds,
Alex _________________ Remembering my Great Uncle - 963 Private Charles Lockhart 2nd Btn Gordon Highlanders - KIA 29/10/1914 |
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Kenneth Morrison
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 7760 Location: Rockcliffe Dalbeattie
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Alex - here you are. It seems to be the only reference to William during the war years.
AUCHTERARDER
Bomb. William Donaldson (20), RFA (killed), was a son of Mrs Donaldson of High Street, Auchterarder. He was formerly employed as a farm servant. _________________ Ken |
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A Morris
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1316 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks Ken. I have found a Mrs Christina Donaldson residing at 2 Chapel Place Inverkeithing in both the 1920 and 1925 Rolls. I now believe her to be the widowed mother of William and that he is the William Donaldson commemorated on the Inverkeithing WW1 Memorial.
Rgds,
Alex _________________ Remembering my Great Uncle - 963 Private Charles Lockhart 2nd Btn Gordon Highlanders - KIA 29/10/1914 |
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Kenneth Morrison
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm?
There is a William Donaldson with a mother named Christina on the 1901 census at Aberdour
George Donaldson 53
Christina Donaldson 49
George Donaldson 21
William Donaldson 17
Euphemie Donaldson 15
Elizabeth Donaldson 9
David Donaldson 7
The soldiers effects register for "your man" has mother Christina and brother John.
But there was a John in 1891 at Abernethy, Perthshire
George Donaldson 42
Christina Donaldson 38
Ann Donaldson 14
George Donaldson 11
John Donaldson 9
William Donaldson 7
Euphemia Donaldson 5
Christina Donaldson 2
But why would he only "benefit" one brother?????
Oh the joys of research! _________________ Ken |
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Kenneth Morrison
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wait a minute!
The William on these census would have been born about 1884, whereas your fellow was only 20 when he was killed in 1918 (c.1898)
So not the same man. _________________ Ken |
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dhubthaigh Our first ever 1000-poster
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 5071 Location: Blairgowrie, Perthshire
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: |
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As Ken states: "Oh the joys of research!"
Involving Perthshire I had a closer look at this.
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Bombardier
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "D" Bty. 231st Bde.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 31/05/1918
Service No: 84168
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Donaldson, of 196, High St., Auchterarder, and the late James Donaldson.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. C. 11.
Cemetery: FOUQUIERES CHURCHYARD EXTENSION
Place of Birth: Dundee
THE STRATHEARN HERALD: 15.06.1918
AUCHTERARDER ARTILLERYMAN KILLED
Mrs Donaldson, High Street, Auchrterarder, has received intimation that her son, Lance-Bombardier William Donaldson, R.F.A., was killed in France on the 31st May. Lance-Bombardier Donaldson, who was 20 years of age, enlisted before he was eighteen, and served in the Gallipoli Campaign. He was also at the Battle of the Somme. Prior to enlistment he was employed as a farm servant.
Soldier's Effects records his mother as Christina. CWGC entry has his father as the late James.
There is also a Joseph Donaldson on Auchterarder War Memorial:
Name: DONALDSON
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn.
Date of Death: between 26/10/1918 and 29/10/1918
Service No: S/41994
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: C.2. 2.
Cemetery: AULNOY COMMUNAL CEMETERY
Place of Birth: Birkhill, Fife.
No casualty report/obituary yet found.
Soldier's Effects records his mother as Christina.
On page 30 of the Roll of Honour publication for Auchterarder:
Donaldson, Joe and Donaldson, William - whose address is shown as 196 High Street, Auchterarder.
So, a fair assumption they were brothers.
Ancestry 1901 Census, residing at Birkhill Cottage, Balmerino, Fife.
James (53), James (7), William Donaldson (10 - bn. Dundee), Joseph Donaldson (7 - bn. Balmerino), Catherine Broadfoot (bn. Auchterarder), and John Donaldson.
If not completely accurate a resonable fit.
The 1891 census has 'Christina' Broadfoot in service at Henhill House, Forteviot, Perthshire - the home of Robert Gardiner, J.P. for West Perthshire.
Joseph Donaldson (illegitimate) is born in 1899 at Birkhill Cottage, Balmerino, Fife son of James Donaldson (Cattleman) and Catherine (scored out and replaced by Christina) 'Proudfoot' Housekeeper.
A death is recorded of Christina Donaldson, widow of James Donaldson (Labourer) at 196 High Street, Auchterarder in May, 1921. Her parents are William Broadfoot (reputed father) and Margaret Riddoch.
As far as I can see James and Christina were common law partners but never actually married.
Christina appears in the 1915 Valuation Rolls at 190 High Street, Auchterarder.
I eventually found the birth of William Donaldson (William Broadfoot on Scotlands People indexes) born 1896 (illegitimate) in Dundee. Parents - James Donaldson and Christina Broadfoot. |
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dhubthaigh Our first ever 1000-poster
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Hi Alex,
Christina Donaldson is not William's widowed mother residing in Inverkeithing.
However, if William Donaldson was a farm servant he may have been down that way. Hopefully this information might help. Would be interested to hear if you nail him down.
Mark |
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A Morris
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1316 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Thanks for the information, indeed I now doubt that I have the correct William.
One other question, I have downloaded all the William Donaldsons' who died from 1914 to 1923 from SP. If a serviceman died at home would his death be registered as a Service Return?
Rgds,
Alex _________________ Remembering my Great Uncle - 963 Private Charles Lockhart 2nd Btn Gordon Highlanders - KIA 29/10/1914 |
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Kenneth Morrison
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Alex - I think that if he died at his home he would not appear on the service return (although if he was a serving soldier, he might). Generally if he died in the UK, even in hospital, I would expect to find him on the civil record.
As another thought these are the Williams awarded a Silver War Badge due to wounds or sickness. (the 2nd Number is the service number)
Might have died after discharge????
William Donaldson
B223515 Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery) 663030
William Donaldson
B346316 Royal Garrison Artillery 300031
William Donaldson
217851 8th Battn S/13286 [sic]
William Donaldson
339144 Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 202534
William Donaldson
190949 Royal Warwickshire Regiment 240263
William Donaldson
403545 East Yorkshire Regiment 12/556
William Donaldson
480642 Royal Defence Corps 5760
William Donaldson
B326788 Labour Corps 386058
William Donaldson
B328547 Labour Corps 236314
William Donaldson
275034 Army Service Corps M2/051686
William Donaldson
B322219 Army Service Corps S/440087
William Donaldson
81680 Seaforth Highlanders S/8880
William Donaldson
78296 The Black Watch (Royal HigHussars) Elen Depot S/8362 [sic]
William Findlay Donaldson
B207997 Royal Army Medical Corps 130903
William J. Donaldson
507159 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 2601
William Morris Donaldson
B180756 Army Service Corps T/325513 _________________ Ken |
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A Morris
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Many thanks Ken.
Rgds,
Alex _________________ Remembering my Great Uncle - 963 Private Charles Lockhart 2nd Btn Gordon Highlanders - KIA 29/10/1914 |
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john burnett
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:38 pm Post subject: william Donaldson |
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Alex,
think your William Donaldson is the KOSB one who was killed 19 July 1916.
Will post more information under your Inverkeithing query. |
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