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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: Samuel Clayton Reply with quote

The Clayton brothers made up six of the 9 children born to Thomas Clayton and Jemima Irving who were married on the 31 December 1874 at Wilton Parish Church.
The eldest of the 9 children was SAMUEL CLAYTON who was born on the 8 May 1875 at 2 Wilton Crescent, Hawick. He went onto marry on the 27 February 1914 to Helen Lawrie. In the brief period of marriage the couple had a son named Thomas who was born on the 28 April 1914 at 19 Dickson Street, Hawick. No official death record has been found for anyone in this family, the only mention being of Samuels in minutes of the Lodge.
From the Hawick Lodge 424 Minutes of 22nd June 1916

SAMUEL CLAYTON, killed in action.
Occupation: Foreman Dyer.
Address 1 Teviot Row, Weensland, Hawick.
D.O.B 1875

However there is no mention of Samuel’s death in any official sources of the Great War. Not CWGC, SDGW, SNWM, any Hawick newspaper nor the Hawick Roll of Honour.

Next in line was JOHN CLAYTON who was born 28 December 1877 at 2 Wilton Crescent. He was killed in action 4/8/17.
After John came WILLIAM CLAYTON who was born 29 October 1880 at Cannon Street, Selkirk.
Williams’s younger brother JOSEPH CLAYTON is next in line and was born 23 May 1882 at Cannon Street in Selkirk. He was killed on 14 November 1914. Highland Light Infantry Service No 7767. His name appears on the Menin Gate War Memorial.
RICHARD CLAYTON born 12 April 1885 at Cannon Street in Selkirk. Richard went on to marry Janet Welsh a Domestic Servant on the 20 January 1911 with whom he set up home at 2 Frank Place in Hawick,
He was discharged from the army on medical grounds as “no longer fit for Military Service” 23 December 1915. Richard was to die a year later on 25 December 1916 at his home 2 Frank Place from what was described as Pleurisy.
The last of the Clayton brothers was JAMES WILLET CLAYTON born 31 January 1896 at 304 Galapark Road, Galashiels. Died 17 June 1916 in Belgium serving with 8/10 Battalion of Gordon Highlanders, Service No s12389.

So, at least 4 of the Clayton boys died during the Great War. But what of Samuel Clayton?
Can anyone throw any light on him?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:30 pm    Post subject: Clayton Reply with quote

Name, date and approximate age add up, could the second man be your Clayton?



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek,

Not our man - this man's parent were John and Isabella. Crying or Very sad

Thanks for searching though, most appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek

Checked and nothing found.

The fact he is not recorded, at least in the local press, suggests to me this minute is wrong. They may have received this info, later to learn he was a POW, etc or some confusion with another Clayton. As far as CWGC is concerned, he could have been in a service which does not qualify him as war dead. He might not have been " killed in action " at all.


Is he listed on the Hawick War Memorial Roll?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he is not commemorated on the Hawick Roll.
And given that he does not appear in any other source seems to suggets to me that he did survive - BUT I can't trace him post-war.

And the fact that his year of birth was listed in the Hawick Lodge 424 Minutes of 22nd June 1916, suggests to me that someonel with agood knowledge of him had put forward his details.

SAMUEL CLAYTON, killed in action.
Occupation: Foreman Dyer.
Address 1 Teviot Row, Weensland, Hawick.
D.O.B 1875
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek,

Just heading out but googled this from rootschat. More questions than answers at this stage I think;

This is the kind of interesting coincidence that only fellow genealogists would understand.

George HUGGAN and Helen PETTIGREW (1st cousin of my great-grandmother Martha STEWART) were married in Wilton on the same day - 31st December 1874 - as a couple called Thomas CLAYTON and Jemima IRVING. The two entries appear on the same page of the Wilton marriages register, one above the other.

Thomas and Jemima had a son called Richard CLAYTON who in 1911 married Janet WELSH, a 2nd cousin of my great-granny Martha STEWART.

My Hawick ancestors are a mixture of WELSH, PETTIGREW and STEWART.

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