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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Dreghorn Reply with quote

Dreghorn - Cunninghame District

The Dreghorn memorial is a grey granit obeliks approximately 20 foot high.
The Inscription reads:
TO THE GLORY OF GOD AND IN MEMORY OF
OUR UNRETURNING BRAVE 1914 - 1919

1939 - 1945
FAITHFULL UNTO DEATH





The WWI names are:
Andrew James
Angelini Ernest
Annall William
Banks Alexander M.
Barrie William
Barrie Alexander
Beattie Robert
Bell Francis
Bell Hugh
Bell Robert
Bowie George
Bryden Thomas
Calderwood John
Caldwell Robert
Donaldson George
Dunlop James
Ferguson William
Fraser Thomas
Fry James
Fulton James
Fulton Peter
Gibson James
Gibson Robert
Gourlay David
Grant James
Haggarty Hugh
Hood James
Houston James
Jones Adam
Kenneth Archibald
Littlejohn Buchan
Lyon James
McKenna Matthew
McLean William
McMillan William
Maxwell Thomas
Millar Thomas
Mitchell Robert
Muir James
Muir John
Muir John H.
Orr Joseph S.
Paterson John
Pirrie Thomas
Rigg Thomas
Ritchie Patrick
Rollo John D.
Samson Hugh
Smith Robert
Spence Thomas
Steel J. Esslemont
Stewart Robert B.
Tait John
Templeton James
Walker Joseph
Walker Robert
Watson Robert G.
Watt Francis
Wylie Andrew G.
Ferguson James McG.


The WWII Names:
Agnew William
Allardyce Alexander
Baird Peter
Barr Robert G.
Blair George L.
Campbell John
Crichton Archibald
Davidson James
Fulton Andrew
Gold Thomas W.
Hardie James
Hardie Thomas
Hardie William
Hay Andrew
Hearshaw Daniel
Jamieson John
Lindsay Robert
Logan Duncan S.H.
Lusk Alexander
McDonald John
MacKay Thomas
Millar Thomas A.
Moore Robert
Muir James
Muir James M.
Muir William S.
Reid Adam C.
Reid Andrew
Russell David
Spence John
Strike Harry
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 53609

OS Ref No.NS 357 383
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if this memorial covers nearby Springside?

Regards

Adam
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice setting for this memorial. It could do with a bit of landscaping/enhancement round about it though.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happily, there has now been some tasteful hard landscaping around the memorial. I have some pictures I'll add soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The monument is sited on what is locally called "The Mound", and is reached up a short, but steep path from the very eastern edge of Main Street.

As my photos show, the immediate surroundings of the monument have benefitted from considerable improvement in hard landscaping, but it seems curious that the council did not also improve the mostly unmade road up to the monument (which must be a challenge to the elderly in November) or to add some signage at the bottom of the path. The latter is less of an issue since the site of the monument is the highest point for miles around and commands very impressive views.








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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for completeness, I add some pictures of the inscriptions













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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
Nice setting for this memorial. It could do with a bit of landscaping/enhancement round about it though.


Some nice work has been done I see
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found the following in a 1994 document about Springside United Church:

"On September 12 , 1920, a Memorial Monument to honor those men from Springside who died in World War I was unveiled, and this was followed by a Memorial Service in the church. Upper Stewiacke and Upper Musquodoboit cancelled their services that evening so people could attend this service at Springside. The monument was made by J.J. MacLeod of Stewiacke. In 1949, a new block was added to the monument so that the names of the fallen in World War II could be added. This monument remains in place today, with wreaths and poppies being laid at the base of it each year on November 11. In recent years, the monument has been cleaned and repaired to ensure its preservation."

The memorial in question is a stone pillar.

Graeme.Ruxton made the following post concerning a supposed memorial at Springside:

I walked around and asked around in Springside and I don't think it has a memorial. However, the memorial at Dreghorn fits the description above. Further Dreghorn and Springside are only a mile apart, and the Dreghorn memorial is on the very edge of the town nearest to Springside. It would be relatively unchallenging to walk from the memorial in Dreghorn to Springside. So I think the memorial discussed above is the Dreghorn one. Effectively, we can score Springside off the list.

I have now deleted the Springside memorial post and the memorial from the list.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The quote you've found about a war memorial in Springside is from Springside, Nova Scotia, rather than the one in Ayrshire.

Doing a search of the Commonwealth War Graves Commision's database reveals that some of the names on the Dreghorn monument are of men from Springside, so it's a very safe bet that there is no memorial in Springside.

Thanks for posting the photos Graeme, I've driven past there hundreds of times without realising that the memorial was there.

Regards
T_T
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Dreghorn Memorial Reply with quote

I visited the memorial yesterday and have some up to date pictures.
The lettering at some points needs re done, the area is lovely and landscaped.
An amazing view is to be had from the site. Worth a visit.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject: Dreghorn Memorial - Private James Andrew Reply with quote

The Irvine Times on 13/08/1915 in the Dreghorn notes carried the following announcement
"Official notice has been received that Private James Andrew 1-4th R.S.F., is missing since July 12th last"
James is commemorated on the family grave at Dreghorn Cemetery
He was a coalminer(hewer) prior to enlisting

Kilmarnock Standard 7 August 1915

"DREGHORN MAN MISSING
News was officially received yesterday morning that Private James Andrew, Dreghorn, 1/4th R.S.F., has been missing since the battle at the Dardanelles on July 12th. He enlisted in October last and went with his company to the Dardanelles in May. He was employed as a miner with Messrs A Kenneth & Sons, Montgomeryfield"

Kilmarnock Standard 5 August 1916
"PRIVATE JAMES ANDREW, 4TH R.S.F.
Last week Mr John Andrew, Braefoot Cottages, Dreghorn, received notice from the Record Office in Hamilton informing him that no further news had been received relative to No 8451 Private James Andrew, 4th Royal Scots Fusiliers, who has been missing since July 12th, 1915, and the Army Council conclude that his death took place on that date (or since). Private James Andrew enlisted in the autumn of 1914, and after undergoing training went to the Dardanelles in May, 1915, and was in the thick of the fighting there along with other Ayrshire soldiers. He was 33 years of age and was well known in the village and district. He was employed as a miner with Messrs A Kenneth & Sons at Shewalton Colliery."

Name: ANDREW
Initials: J
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit: 1st/4th Bn
Age: 36
Date of Death: 12/07/1915
Service No: 8451
Additiional Information: Son of Mr and Mrs John Andrew of Townfoot, Dreghorn, Ayrshire
Grave Memorial Reference: Panel 72 to 75
Cemetery: Helles Memorial

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:34 pm    Post subject: Dreghorn Memorial - Ernesta Angelini Reply with quote

The Irvine Herald on Friday 14th December 1917 contained the following annnouncement in the "Dreghorn" section
"Information has been recieved of the death in Italy of Pte Ernest Angelini. Deceased, who carried on an ice-cream business in the village, enlisted in June 1916, and has been with the Italian troops in the recent fighting. He leaves a widow and five children"

Ernesta is commemorated on the family grave in Dreghorn Cemetery
"In loving memory of Ernesta Angelini who was accidentlally killed in Italy 21st Nov 1917 aged 38"

Kilmarnock Standard 22 December 1917
"AN ITALIAN KILLED
PRIVATE ERNESTO ANGELINI, DREGHORN
Mrs F Angelini, Dreghorn, has been officially informed of the death of her husband, Private Ernesto Angelini. He had been fighting with the Italian troops since July, 1916. The deceased was well known and highly respected in Dreghorn and district, having been resident in the village for fully five years. Always ready and willing to help in matters relating to the welfare of the village, he was held in high esteem by all who knew him. He leaves a widow and five young children to mourn his loss."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:45 pm    Post subject: Dreghorn Memorial - William Annall Reply with quote

Kilmarnock Standard 19 October 1918
"SPRINGSIDE SOLDIER KILLED
PRIVATE WILLIAM ANNALL, R.S.F.
Mr and Mrs James Annall, Six Rows, Springside, have received official notice that their son, Private William Annall, R.S.F., was killed in action on
27th September. Private Annall enlisted in April and had only been three weeks in France. Prior to enlisting he was employed with Messrs Baird & Co. at Nether Craig Pit. Private Annall was 23 years of age"

CWGC information

Name: ANNALL
Initial: W
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit: 1st Bn
Age: 23
Date of Death: 27/09/1918
Service No: 52517
Additional Information: Son of Mrs J Annall, of 9, Six Row, Springside, Kilmarnock
Grave reference: H.8
Cemetery: LOWRIE CEMETERY, HAVRINCOURT

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:52 pm    Post subject: Dreghorn Memorial - Alexander Mair Banks Reply with quote

Kilmarnock Standard February 2, 1918 page 3
"SPRINGSIDE SOLDIER KILLED
PRIVATE ALEX BANKS, R.S.
Mr and Mrs Robert Banks, Arran View, Springside, have received official intimation that their son, Private Alex. M. Banks, Royal Scots, has been killed in action or had died of wounds in France. Private Banks was reported as wounded and missing four months ago. He joined up two years ago, and prior to that was empoyed with the G. & S.W. Railway Company as a goods clerk at Dreghorn station. Deceased was an unmarried man of 23 years. He was held in the highest esteem. His death makes the first break in a family of nine. His father has been for some years a memeber of the Parish Council of Dreghorn and was also a member of the old Parochial Board"

Prior to enlisting Alexander was a Railway Ticket Collector with GSW

CWGC information

Name: BANKS
First names: Alexander Mair
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Scots
Unit: 9th Bn
Age: 22
Date of Death: 20/09/1917
Service No: 351498
Additional Information: Son of Robert and Eleanora Banks, of Arran View, Springside, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Grave/Memorial Reference: XXIV.B.7
Cemetery: POELCAPELLE BRITISH CEMETERY
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