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geoff501



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Badly weathered CWGC headstones Reply with quote

Hi all,

This link from the sister site was recently featured on ww2talk:

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/scottishwargraves-ftopic1403-0-asc-15.html

The grave photos were from 4 years ago. Does anyone know if they were reported to CWGC? They are not up to their standard and need to be re-engraved.

Here is the WW2 talk post:

http://www.ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/remembering-today-30-5-43-lieutenant-gordon-maurice-noll-royal-navy-h-m-submarine-untamed.69958/#post-751319

Cheers,

Geoff
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Geoff.

Iain Anderson, CWGC's Scottish Supervisor will no doubt have visited Dunoon and taken notes on the condition of the stones, but when this will have been, I have no idea.

There's probably a list a mile long of stones needing maintenance up and down the country!

Anne
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Kenneth Morrison



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of thoughts - you can see why granite grave markers are common in Scotland rather than Portland stone,
and co-incidentally this line is on an item on the CWGC web site
"In Scotland alone, the CWGC cares for more than 20,000 graves and memorials in more than 12,000 locations."
http://www.cwgc.org/news-events/news/2017/5/gardening-scotland.aspx

Actually, do those numbers make sense Confused
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Merseman



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are only 1,000-odd parishes in Scotland. Article on Wikipedia sourced from CWGC data says they care for 170k graves at 12k sites across UK...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_total_Commonwealth_War_Graves_Commission_burials_by_country

So 20,000 figure fits Scotland, but 12,000 does not - 1,200 maybe? Even then?
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many Churchyards, Cemeteries, Private Burying Grounds are there scattered here there and everywhere though?

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest that there are that many burial locations/sites (obviously every 'location/site' listed separately, not grouping them all as a single Parish place of burial).

I could probably list a few hundred in my neck of the woods and that's just a small part of the country. I wouldn't like to even hazard a guess as to how many are on the islands!

Anne
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the CWGC database the number of locations in Scotland where Commonwealth casualties from the two world wars are commemorated are:

Aberdeenshire 128
Angus 40
Argyllshire 83
Ayrshire 61
Banffshire 36
Berwickshire 29
Buteshire 10
Caithness-shire 19
Clackmannanshire 9
Dumfriesshire 47
Dunbartonshire 20
East Lothian 26
Edinburgh 32
Fifeshire 75
Glasgow 20
Inverness-shire 102
Kincardineshire 20
Kinross-shire 6
Kirkcudbrightshire 27
Lanarkshire 56
Midlothian 30
Moray 26
Nairnshire 3
Orkney 32
Peeblesshire 9
Perthshire 79
Renfrewshire 24
Ross and Cromarty 71
Roxburghshire 33
Selkirkshire 7
Shetland 40
Stirlingshire 30
Sutherland 28
West Lothian 19
Wigtownshire 24

Total 1301
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