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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Jewish War Memorial, Piershill Cemetery, Portobello Reply with quote

I found the following article but see no mention of the memorial either here or on the war graves site (although I note that gourdongirl was in the process of photographing/documenting Piershill Cemetery);

EVENING TELEGRAPH: 08.03.1920

MEMORIAL TO JEWISH SOLDIERS

In Piershill Cemetery, Portobello, before a gathering of 2500 persons, Colonel Sir George M'Crae, unveiled a memorial to 19 Jewish soldiers who had given their lives in the Great War.
Dr Salis Gaiches, Graham Street Synagogue, Edinburgh, one of the principal rabbis of Great Britain, presided, and was assisted in the reading of the Scriptures - in Hebew and in English - by the Rev. Mr Levinson and the Rev. Mr Titelmens. The service was very impressive, ending as is did with the Mourners' Prayer and the sounding of the Last Post.
In the course of an address Sir George M'Crae said 550, 000 Jews had served in the Forces in Great Britain, 250 Edinburgh Jews had joined the Army, 19 had made the supreme sacrifice, and one had been awarded the V.C.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2272837
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is basic information for the men remembered on this memorial:


Alexander, Maurice T. (Alexander, Maurice Tabias ) Private, 39th. Battalion Royal Fusiliers. J/3909, Died: 20/12/1918. Age: 19. Buried: Kantara War Memorial Cemetery , Egypt. Grave Ref: F. 58.

Berman, Manuel Private, 9th Battalion Royal Scots. 352504 Died of Wounds : 29/03/1917. Age 25. Commemorated: Arras Memorial, Pas de Calais, France. Panel Ref: Bay 1 and 2

Cohen, Jack (Served as Morrison, Jack) Private, 10th Battalion Highland Light Infantry, 2059. Killed in Action: 25/09/1915 Age: 17 Commemorated: Loos Memorial, Pas de Calais, France. Panel Ref: Panel 108 to 112

Goldstein, Samuel, Private, 9th Battalion Royal Scots, 352433. Killed in Action: 9/04/1917. Age 25. Buried: Roclincourt Valley Cemetery, Pas de Calais, France. Grave Ref: II. G. 5

Kurtzman (Mack), W. (Served as Mack, William) Sergeant, 2nd Seaforth Highlanders, 9389. Died of Wounds: 30/05/1917 Buried: St. Pol Communal Cemetery Extension, Pas de Calais, France. Grave Ref: F 29

Kurtzman, Hyman Corporal, 1st/6th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers, 4753. Killed in Action: 15/09/1916. Age 19. Commemorated: Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France. Panel Ref: Pier and Face 10B 11B 12B

Levy, John Henry Private, 15th Battalion Royal Scots, 43382. Killed in Action: 9/10/1917. Age 23. Commemorated: Tyne Cot Memorial, West Vlaanderen, Belgium. Panel Ref: 11 to 14 and 162

Lewenthal, Morris Private, 1st Battalion Highland Light Infantry, 11605. Killed in Action: 19/12/1914. Age 24. Commemorated: Le Touret Memorial, Pas de Calais, France. Panel Ref: Panel 37 and 38

Lewenthal, Leopold Private, "B" Company, 1st Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders, 1252. Died of Wounds: 6/05/1915. Age 21. Buried: Cabaret-Rouge British Cemetery, Souchez, Pas de Calais, France. Grave Ref: XVII.A.35

Levinson, Abraham David 39036, 2nd/8th Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers, 39036. Died 9/10/1917. Age 26. Commemorated: Tyne Cot Memorial, West Vlaanderen, Belgium. Panel Ref: Panel 54 to 60 and 163A

Mendelson Max, Gunner, 1st Somerset Battery, Royal Horse Artillery, 172375. Died 12/10/1918. Age 21. Buried: Jerusalem War Cemetery, Egypt. Grave Ref: JS. 14

Phillips Mark Lance Corporal, 1st Battalion, East Lancashire Regiment, 29252 Killed in Action: 18/10/1916. Age: 23. Commemorated: Bienvillers Military Cemetery

Paterson, Roy F. (Paterson , Roualan Fraser) Lance Corporal, S/40443, 8th/10th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders. Died of Wounds: 10/04/1917. Age 33. Remembered with Honour: Duisans British Cemetery, Etrun

Rosenbloom Harry Private, 11 Battalion Royal Scots, 49052 Killed in Action: 22/03/1918. Age: 19. Commemorated: Pozieres Memorial.

Rosenberg, Isaac Private, Royal Field Artillery, 176063 Died: 16/05/1919. Age: 34 Died at home: 8 Henry Street, Leith.

Rapp Louis Private, 30th Battalion, Middlesex Regiment, G/74241. Died 27/03/1919. Age 42. Died: Military Hospital, Craigleith, Edinburgh

Solomon, Mark Private, 35042, 23rd(Tyneside Scottish) Battalion, Northumberland Fusiliers. Died 9/04/1917. Age 30. Remembered with Honour: Roclincourt Military Cemetery.

Symon, Israel David. Private, 41857, 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Killed in Action: 23/10/1918. Age: 20. Remembered with Honour: Harlebeke New British Cemetery, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium. Grave Ref: V.D.7.

Shapero, Charles ( Served as Charles Cambell) Private, , 5th Royal Scots, 2657 Killed in Action: 27/09/1915. Age 34. Buried Green Hill Cemetery, Grave 11. A. 10
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MagsD.

The Link above says there is a Second World War plaque too, do you have a list of the names for them?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Adam,

There are six names:

J. Kleinberg M.N. Age 25
F/Lt. D. Baum R.A.F. Age 26
J. Goran M.N. Age 29
Sgt. M. Lucas R.A.C. Age 23
Pte. S. Poliwansky R.A.P.C. Age 37
Pte. M. Zack 6 Gordon Highlanders Age 28

I had a quick look at CWGC and found
Baum, Dennis Jacob
Rank: Flight Lieutenant
Trade: Pilot
Service No: 117670
Date of Death: 04/03/1945
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Buried: Edinburgh Piershill Cemetery, Section C Jewish, Grave 438

Goran,Jack
Rank:Steward
Date of Death:22/04/1943
Age 29
Regiment/Service: Merchant Navy M.V. Amerik(London)
Memorial: Tower Hill Memorial, London. Panel Ref: Panel 7

Zack,Morris(Bennie)
Rank:Private
ServiceNo:3323695
Date of Death:04/02/1944
Age:28
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders 6th Bn.
Cemetery: Anzio War Cemetery Grave Reference: II, T, 7.
Son of Abraham and Esther Zack, of Edinburgh; husband of Mary Thorburn Zack, of Leith, Edinburgh.

Haven't researched these men as my main research has been WW1. As you know, many men served under other names, however there are folks with the surnames Kleinberg and Poliwansky in the Edinburgh Phone Directory during WW2 years.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mags

That's great, many thanks for the update. Hopefully the other three men can be identified too at some point.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Scottish National War Memorial records this sailor

Surname: KLEINBERG
Forename: Jack
Rank: Able Seaman
Place of birth: Glasgow
Date of death: 28 March 1942
Theatre of death: Unknown
SNWM roll: MERCHANT NAVY & FISHING FLEETS (Part 1)
Unit attached to MERCHANT NAVY & FISHING FLEETS
Other detail S.S. "RACELAND"

The "Raceland" was lost on convoy PQ13 to Murmansk.

http://www.ss-raceland.com/indexEnglish.html

From the website above:

On the 21st of march 1942, convoy PQ13 left Iceland. On the 28th of march the SS Raceland was north of Norway and had lost contact with the convoy due to heavy weather and equipment malfunction. That day, the German bombers attacked the ship, and finally the ship was sunk by a bom exploded nearby. The crew could save themself because of the calm sea, and took place in the 4 lifeboats. A day later a storm and a freezing cold caused 2 lifeboats to sink with 12 crewmembers on board. (the 12 crewmembers drowned)
The other two lifeboats reached land, and due to the suffering only 13 crembers of the 33 survived


When I look up the CWGC database I can only see one record for a sailor from the Raceland - Mess Boy Roy Currie from Canada.

I think this may be a case of a non-commemoration. I will continue that discussion in the Non-Comm section

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Adam,

Had a look at the Roll of Honour for R.A.C. Only one M. Lucas and he was a 2ndLt. However, he was born in Edinburgh and residence is given as Edinburgh.
Name: Maurice Lucas
Given Initials: B
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Death Date: 17 Jul 1941
Number: 117564
Birth Place: Edinburgh
Residence: Edinburgh
Regiment at Enlistment: County of London Yeomanry (Westminster Dragoons) RAC
Branch at Enlistment: Royal Armoured Corps
Theatre of War: Middle East
Regiment at Death: Royal Tank Regiment RAC
Branch at Death: Royal Armoured Corps

This soldier attended George watson's and there's a bio.
http://www.gwc.org.uk/our-school/history-of-george-watsons-college/watsons-war-records/

Wonder if his rank on memorial could be wrong? Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mags

He must be a possibility given the name, regiment and Edinburgh connection. He was a pre-war territorial so perhaps he was a sergeant before being commissioned? It's a bit tenuous but it's certainly a good place starting place for further investigation.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

Had a quick look at scotlandspeople. There are a number of deaths where Poliwansky has the alternative surname Polli. CWGC has a Polli. Age is 34 and memorial is 37, however correct corps.

POLLI, SIMON

Rank: Private
Service No: 7680226
Date of Death: Between 06/12/1942 and 07/12/1942
Age: 34
Regiment/Service:Royal Army Pay Corps
Panel ReferencePanel 20. Column 1.
Memorial: BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Son of Jacob and Sarah Polli; husband of Peggy Polli, of West Kensington, London.

Mags

Note: This is definitely the correct soldier. Found an engagement notice in The Jewish Chronicle, 26 Sept. 1941: Mr Simon Polli (Poliwansky), youngest son of Mrs Poliwansky and the late Mr Poliwansky of 80 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh. The engagement is to Peggy Benjamin.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mags

He must be a possibility, there are often discrepancies with ages on memorials.

What a great piece of research to find him. With that information it will hopefully be easier to confirm or discount him as the man listed.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are photographs of the memorial. It was refurbished in 1982, it could do with some tlc now because a lot of the lettering is not clear. Thankfully MagsD has given us a transcription













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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rosenberg, Isaac Private, Royal Field Artillery, 176063 Died: 16/05/1919. Age: 34 Died at home: 8 Henry Street, Leith.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Jim,

I found his death cert on scotlandspeople: GROS 1919 Deaths 685/05 0458
He died at home, 8 Henry Street, Leith, on 16 May 1919, age 34. Cause of death was given as Pulmonary Tuberculosis and Laryngeal Tuberculosis. Sister, Lena, was the informant.
His service record(ancestry) shows he had spells in hospital with a note, "Malaria case, not available for a Theatre of War where malaria is prevalent, Salonika 9/06/1918". Time was also spent at the Malaria Centre at Berwick upon Tweed. After being admitted to the hospital at Edinburgh Castle, he was discharged as "permanently unfit for war, 100% degree of disability" on 18 February 1919. Also says he was eligible for SWB, however there is no record - perhaps he was too poorly to apply, he died a couple of months later.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again Jim,

Forgot to say Isaac is not on CWGC, SNWM or SDGW.
Louis Rapp, died Craigleith Hospital is on CWGC but not SNWM or SDGW.

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