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Tonym



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim
I thought that NOK obtained Service Records free of charge ???

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can obtain your own record FOC. For others there is a charge.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected !!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looking at the various medal awards when I spotted this man

Name: LEITCH, JOHN JOHNSTON
Initials: J J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flight Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 511 Sqdn.
Age: 44
Date of Death: 06/10/1946
Service No: 505185
Awards: Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of Alexander Leitch and of Janet Leitch (nee Johnston); husband of Grace Leitch (nee Grieve), of Annan, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 286.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

511 Squadron flew Avro York aircraft (passenger carrying version of the Lancaster) on long distance routes - mainly to the Far-East.
This aircraft came down in the Bay of Bengal during the Calcutta to Penang stage of its journey from London to Singapore. All 21 passengers and crew were lost.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: RAF Plaque in English St Dumfries Reply with quote

May be F/Serg R. Armstrong is - Robert Armstrong Service No 1567337
from 101 Squardon killed in action 31/3/1944 he was aged 20 years.
He is commemorated on Closeburn WM and remembered with tree, Scots Pine, and Plaque unveiled Nov 1947 at Wallace Hall Academy, Closeburn; 11/11/2012 new plaque reinstated.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: RAF Plaque, Englsih St Dumfries Reply with quote

Think AC. Fisher - is William Fisher Service No 1365456, died in Japan as a prisioner of war 28/11/1942, aged 31 years. William is on Penpont WM and the Wallace Hall Academy, Tree Memorial - Beech Tree. Family grave in Penpont Churchyard.

Think FO. J.G. Bryson - is James Gilmour Bryson Service No 134999
from 550 Sqn killed in action 2/1/1944 aged 24 years. James is remembered on family grave in Gretna Cemetery and on roll of honour on Old Gretna Church; the WM in Gretna Cemetery is for the Parish of Riggs, no names on it; but think church roll covers the men in Parish. James on roll of honour in St. Deny's Church, North Killingholme - the home of the '550 Sqn' He is remembered on the Wallace Hall Academy Trees - Western Hemlock.

Think FO. Young - is William Young Service No 154575, from 625 Sqn killed in action 5/4/1945 aged 22 years. William is remembered on family grave in Keir Churchyard; Keir WM and Keir Church Plaque. He is remembered on Wallace Hall Academy Trees - Sycamore.

The Wallace Hall Academy, Closeburn, trees memorials for 22 (2 women and 20 men) pupils who lost life in WW2, unveiled 11/11/1947 by tree and plaque.
On 11/11/2012 New plaques made for the 22 pupils and 1 new tree planted at special remembrance service.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
Tony

You can obtain your own record FOC. For others there is a charge.


Not exactly. You can obtain your own FOC, so can your spouse. Immediate next of kin have to pay a charge. You have to prove you are related to the individual concerned.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: RAF Plaque, English St Dumfries. Reply with quote

May be at the unveiling the Air Vice Marshall was -
AVM Bernard McEntergart, CB., CBE., 12/11/1891-25/9/1954
Who retired and moved to Dunscore, Dumfriesshire in 1945.
He married Anne Patmore 1905-1984 who wrote book ' The Milk Lady at New Park Farm' - a Wartime Diary June 1943-Feb 1945.
Bernard and Anne had one son FO John McEntergart 1933-1955, Killed in flying accident. Both father and son remembered on family grave in New Dunscore Cemetery and on seat at entrance of the Cemetery.
Anne was artist, after husband and son died rented Dunscore house out until 1965 while she travelled abroad, painting and spent time in France. From 1965-1979 in Dunscore and painting around area, some of her paintings donated to Dumfries Museum; in 1979 sold house and moved to Appleby-in-Westmorland where she died in 1984.

Shall do more research to see if Bernard is man at unveiling.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Not exactly. You can obtain your own FOC, so can your spouse. Immediate next of kin have to pay a charge. You have to prove you are related to the individual concerned.


The spouse can obtain the record, without charge, but only if they are a widow or widower.
The case under discussion in 2011 centred on a death in 1944 where I had assumed her parents, who could have obtained to record without charge, were also deceased, hence my reference to her " living NOK "
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: RAF Plaque, English St Dumfries Reply with quote

Think Seg A. Telfer - will be Adam Telfer Service No 1371009 from 49 Sqn killed in action 21/4/1843 aged 22 years. Adam is commemorated on the two WM's for Parish of Durisdeer and on roll on honour in Durisdeer Church.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: RAF Plaque, Englsih St Dumfries Reply with quote

Have on the Kirkmahoe WW2 Plaque found inside Kirkmahoe Parish Church; and on family graves in Kirkmahoe Churchyard the following two men:-
FO. John Bryce Duncan Service No 102115 died 1/3/1943 aged 32 yrs and
Sqn Leader Peter Wellwood Fortune Landale,DFC., Service No 70379 died 25/7/1941 aged 26 years; Peter is also commemorated on stained glass window in Dalswinton Barony Church and on roll of honour at Eton.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gladys
There's a biography of Peter Landale at:
http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/aircraft/yorkshire/york40/p4953b.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject: RAF Plaque, English St Dumfries Reply with quote

FS. John Hohnston Leitch, Service No 505185 noted above; is commemorated on Annan WM.
Also on Annan WM is - Serg Robert Wilkin from 90 Sqn Service No 516847 died 28/5/1940 aged 21 years. He has Commonwealth grave in Annan Cemetery.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: RAF Plaque, Englsih St Dumfries Reply with quote

Found on a WW2 Plaque in Holywood Church is -
T.K.D. Lucas, Service No 1827712 died 2/5/1944 aged 21 yrs and
Jock M. Watson, Service No 1493014 died 26/6/1944 aged 22yrs.
In 2012 Holywood Church for sale and planning notice to remove plaque in local paper 13/7/2012 - to be removed and relocated into Dumfries to North West Church (Lochside) which is the local church for Holywood area.
I do not know if plaque has been moved from Holywood.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No mention on OP of my man.
At least he has a mention on the Stranraer Memorial & CWGC:

PAXTON, ROBERT HENRY

Rank:
Sergeant
Trade:
Flt. Engr.
Service No:
1329560
Date of Death:
31/03/1944
Age:
39
Regiment/Service:
Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

550 Sqdn.
Grave Reference
5. B. 17.
Cemetery
HEVERLEE WAR CEMETERY

Additional Information:

Son of Robert Paxton and of Annie Brooke or Paxton, of Stranraer, Wigtownshire; husband of Agnes Campbell Thomson or Paxton, of Stranraer.

(Sgt. Paxton's middle name - paternal line - grandmother's maiden name.)
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