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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: BLAIRGOWRIE, ST. ANDREW'S WW1 & WW2 Reply with quote




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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

32 Great War parishioners are recorded. Two do no feature on the War Memorial in the Wellmeadow - J.M. Murray & Alex. Smith;

ALEX.R.ADAM
JAS.L.ANDERSON
W.J.BENNETT
ALEX.R.CAMERON
JOHN.CAMERON
D.R.CRAIGIE
A.G.CLARK
JAS.DICK
WM.DOIG
JAS.B.FALCONER
GEO.S.FERGUSON
ALEX.FYFFE
JOHN.FYFFE
CHAS.T.GRANT
HUGH.GRANT
JOHN.GRANT
GEO.GUNN
GEO.C.HOOD
DANIEL.IRVINE
GEO.P.KIDD
WM.LAUDER
WM.LUMSDEN
DAVID.MITCHELL
ALEX.MONTAGUE
J.M.MURRAY
ALEX.M.NICOLL
JAS.RICHARDSON
P.W.RICHARDSON
DAVID.SMITH
ALEX.SMITH
COLIN.SMYTH
JAS.A.WISHART
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'extras';

Name: MURRAY
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 20/05/1915
Service No: 1659
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 5.
Cemetery: ETRETAT CHURCHYARD

BLAIRGOWRIE ADVERTISER: 29.05.15
The district is paying a heavy toll in connection with the War. The fifteenth death of soldiers connected with Blairgowrie and Rattray district falls to be recorded - that of Pvt. John Murray, 2nd Black Watch.
Deceased, who was 25 years of age, belonged to Bramblebank, Rattray, and served some time as a tailor with Mr J. F. Keith, High Street, Blairgowrie, where he was well known, before enlisting.
He was five years in India with his regiment, and came to France with the Indian Contingent. He was wounded at La Bassee, and was home about Christmas. Rejoining his regiment at Nigg after the New Year, he returned the following week to France, and was in the trenches until he received the serious wounds from which he died in the General Hospital, Etretat, France, on 20th inst.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: SMITH, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 26/04/1917
Service No: S/43462
Additional information: Born at Dundee. Son of John and Annie Rough Smith, of Shawfield, Rosemount, Blairgowrie, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. D. 5.
Cemetery: GUEMAPPE BRITISH CEMETERY, WANCOURT

DUNDEE COURIER: 30.04.19
In loving memory of Alex. Smith, 9th B.W., killed near Arras 23rd April 1917. Son of John Smith, Shawfield, Blairgowrie.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World War Two names;

IAN.R.COLLIE
JAMES.MILNE
JOHN.M.PETRIE

All are listed on the War Memorial in the Wellmeadow.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello
I am wondering why these two lads were left off the memorial in the wellmedow, J Murry and Alex Smith. Also would there be a copy of the book mentioned above in the Blair library.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Smiddy,

I think it has been mentioned on the forum previously that there are a variety of reasons why some casualties appear on particular memorials whilst others do not.
It depended on whose name was put forward for which memorial. Some are on those where they were born, others where they grew up, were schooled, worked, family choice etc. I can't give a definitive answer to your question in this case either I'm afraid.

There is a copy of Blairgowrie & Rattray War Memorial Behind the Names' in Blair & Alyth Libraries.

rgds.,
Mark
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Many thanks for your reply, I can understand why the family would want the names put on a memorial in a particular church or school but I think it so sad that they are not recorded along with there comrades on the community memorial.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smiddykilry wrote:
but I think it so sad that they are not recorded along with there comrades on the community memorial.


Absolutely, and I will quote one example, again relating to Blairgowrie - and no doubt replicated throughout the country.

Name: FICHLIE, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 17th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 18/11/1916
Service No: 43263
Additional information: Son of Patrick Fichlie, of 26, George St., Blairgowrie, Perthshire, and the late Elizabeth Smith Fichlie.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 15 C.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

The Fichlies were well-known in the town for years. Willie's younger brother, Martin, was a good friend of my grandfather, Martin Duffy. My great uncle, John Duffy, is on the memorial but Willie Fichlie is not and I thought that would have been a stick on. Willie Fichlie does appear in the Dundee RoH as he had been working as a butcher in Lochee prior to the outbreak of war.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:41 pm    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) report Reply with quote

WMR 82147
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