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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unveiled by the Duke of Atholl - October 16th 1921
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This memorial has three separate famillies with three-fold losses;
BLAIRGOWRIE ADVERTISER: 26.10.1918
Pte William Low, Scots Guards, son of Mr Low, Oak Place, has been killed in action. His two brothers have also fallen in the war, the youngest Second Lieut. Low, only a fortnight ago.
Mr Fitzgerald, Birnam, has also lost three sons, and a fourth is still on active service.

Name: LOW
Initials: G A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 28/09/1918
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. J. 8.
Cemetery: HOOGE CRATER CEMETERY

Name: LOW
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 11/10/1918
Service No: 15370
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Georgina Low, of Old Villas, Birnam, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 1.
Cemetery: ST. VAAST COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Name: LOW
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "B" Bty. 48th Bde.
Date of Death: 12/05/1917
Service No: 6078
Additional information: Husband of R. K. Low, of Carlton Lodge, Upwell Rd., Swanage.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. M. 28.
Cemetery: DUISANS BRITISH CEMETERY, ETRUN

Name: FITZGERALD, EDWARD
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Date of Death: 25/03/1918
Service No: 76166
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 7.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

Name: FITZGERALD, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: S/4503
Additional information: Son of William and Jane Ann Fitzgerald, of Torwood, Birnam, Dunkeld, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 78 to 83.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: FITZGERALD, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 01/09/1918
Service No: 18146
Additional information: Son of William and Jane Ann Fitzgerald, of Tonwood, Birnam, Dunkeld.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: F. 1198.
Cemetery: KARASOULI MILITARY CEMETERY

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Name: RODGERS
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Place of Birth Murthly
Rank: Private
Regiment: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 06/09/1916
Service No: S/6972
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XXI. A. 5.
Cemetery: AMARA WAR CEMETERY

Surname ROGERS
Firstname Drummond Kaye
Service number 8581
Date of death 07/05/1916
Decoration
Place of birth Murthly Perthshire
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death Home.

Name: ROGERS, ROBERT CARMICHAEL
Initials: R C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment: Royal Army Medical Corps
Secondary Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 18th Heavy Artillery Group
Age: 28
Date of Death: 02/08/1918
Additional information: Son of David and Grace Rogers, of Gellyburn, Murthly, Perthshire; husband of Mary Rogers, of Inverglen, Kingussie, Inverness-shire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 11.
Cemetery: TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE

The Rogers are also commemorated on
Caputh War Memorial;
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=264&highlight=caputh
Caputh Church, Murthly Church (former) and Murthly Roll of Honour;
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1581&highlight=caputh
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surname BROWN
Firstname T D
Service number 24081943
Date of death 07/04/1973
Decoration
Place of birth Birnam Perthshire
Other 2nd Bn. Parachute Regiment.
SNWM roll SCOTSMEN IN VARIOUS CORPS AND UNITS
Rank L/Cpl
Theatre of death Northern Ireland

7th April 1973:
Lance Corporal Terence Brown, 24, 2 Para - killed when his Land Rover went over a landmine consisting of 200-300lbs of explosive packed into a culvert under a road at Tullyogallaghan (County Armagh).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: RAE, COLIN STUART
Initials: C S
Nationality: Indian
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: 1st King George V's Own Gurkha Rifles (The Malaun Regiment)
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 17/05/1945
Service No: EC/11528
Additional information: Son of Stuart Naysmith Rae and Kathleen Cecilia Rae.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Face 56.
Memorial: RANGOON MEMORIAL

Lieutenant Rae also appears on the Cambridge University (Peterhouse) WW2 Memorial;
http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Cambridgeshire/CambridgeUniversityPeterhouse.html
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
7th April 1973:
Lance Corporal Terence Brown


Details from the Armed Forces Memorial:

Surname
BROWN

Forenames/Initials
Terence Davidson

Rank
LCpl

Service
Army

Service Number
24081943

Regiment/Corps
PARA

Place of Birth/Home Town
Birnham

Date of Birth
26 June 1948

Age
24

Date of Death
7 April 1973

Cemetery Name
not known ?Birnam/Dunkeld

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this pic shows the location of the monument above the road well. A beautiful site but not ideal for wheelchair access.


A photo of one of my old postcards of the Dunkeld & Birnam memorial.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PERTHSHIRE ADVERTISER: 19.10.1921

THE DEAD HEROES OF DUNKELD

PITCURESQUE MEMORIAL UNVEILED
DUKE OF ATHOLL AND SELFISHNESS


Erected upon a high knoll at the junction of the Dunkeld and Strathbraan roads, as can be seen anywhere in the county, as can be seen anywhere in the country, the memorial to the men of the parishes of Dunkeld and Little Dunked - a thirty foot cairn of rough native stone from Craig Barns Hill - was unveiled and dedicated in a simple but impressive manner on Saturday afternoon. During the ceremony heavy showers of rain fell, in keeping with the sorrow and pain in the hearts of the bereaved ones, but afterwards the sun shone out in all its brilliancy, bringing with it hope and comfort and peace.
On a bronze tablet, set in the face of the cairn are inscribed the names of the 74 fallen men, over the inscription, ‘Ye are more than conquerors, who rest triumphantly unforgotten’, viz:-

SGT. MAJ. DONALD ALLAN, D.C.M., BLACK WATCH,
SGT. HUNTER ANDERSON, A. & S. HIGHLANDERS,
L.-CPL. WILLIAM ANNAND, SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. DAVID CAMERON, SCOTS GUARDS,
PTE. DONALD CAMPBELL, CAMERON HIGHLANDERS,
CAPT. SYDNEY CESARI, M.C., R.A.M.C.,
PTE. MCLAREN CUTHBERT, GORDON HIGHLANDERS,
CPL. JAMES DAVIDSON, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. PETER DONALDSON, CANADIAN E.F.,
PTE. GEORGE DOW, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. CHARLES DUFF, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. WILLIAM S. DUFF, EAST KENT REGIMENT,
PTE. JAMES EDWARDS, EAST YORK REGIMENT,
CPL. ANGUS FINLAYSON, ROYAL SCOTS,
PTE. THOMAS FITZGERALD, CAMERON HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. JOHN FITZGERALD, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. EDWARDS FITZGERLAD, NOTTS. & DERBY REGIMENT,
CPL. JAMES FOTHERINGHAM, BLACK WATCH,
CPL. GEORGE GLASS, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. JAMES GOW, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. ALEXANDER GREIG, SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. JOHN ALEXANDER HALL, SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. ROBERT HENDERSON, BLACK WATCH,
CPL. JAMES HISLOP, ROYAL SCOTS
PIPER CPL. ARTHUR J. C. HORNE, SCOTTISH RIFLES,
PTE. JAMES HUNTER, ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS,
PTE. DUNCAN HUTTON, ROYAL SCOTS,
CPL. WILLIAM INNES, CAMERON HIGHLANDERS,
SAPR. DAVID PATON JACKSON, ROYAL ENGINEERS,
LIEUT. ARTHUR LESLIE JENKS, DORSET REGIMENT,
CPL. DUNCAN LAWSON, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. JAMES LITTLE, ROYAL SCOTS,
PTE. WILLIAM LOW, SCOTS GUARDS,
GNR. JOHN LOW, ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY,
LIEUT. GEORGE LOW, ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS,
PTE. DONALD M'DIARMID, GORDON HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. ALEXANDER M'DOUGALL, BLACK WATCH,
CAPT. MALCOLM M'GILLEWIE, ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY,
LIEUT. NIGEL M'GILLEWIE, K.OS.B.,
PTE. GEORGE M'INTOSH, H.L.I.
PTE. EWEN M'KAY, CAMERON HIGHLANDERS,
TROOPER LACHLAN M'KECHNIE, SCOTTISH HORSE,
TROOPER JOHN MACRAE M'LEOD, SCOTS GREYS,
SGT. JOHN M'ROSTIE, LONDON SCOTTISH,
PTE. ARCHIBALD M'PHERSON, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. JAMES MALCOLM, ROYAL SCOTS,
LIEUT. DAVID MARTIN, OXFORD & BUCKS. REGIMENT,
CPL. DUNCAN MURRAY, MACHINE GUN CORPS,
PTE. IAN MACNAUGHTON PILKINGTON, BLACK WATCH,
LIEUT. PETER ROBERTSON PURDIE, ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY
LIEUT. W. A. RAE, BLACK WATCH,
SGT. DAVID REID, SOUTH AFRICAN INFANTRY,
PTE. THOMAS A. RICHARDSON, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. PETER RITCHIE, CAN. CAMERON HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. DAVID ROBERTSON, SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. DONALD ROBERTSON, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. ROBERT ROBERTSON, BLACK WATCH,
CAPT. ROBERT C. ROGER, R.A.M.C.,
PTE. HUGH Y. ROGER, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. DRUMMOND K. ROGER, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. ALISTAIR SCOTT, SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS,
PTE. JAMES LOW SCOTT, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. DANIEL SIM, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. JAMES R. SMEATON, CAMERON HIGHLANDERS,
SGT. WILLIAM SMITH, BLACK WATCH,
CPL. JOHN M'GREGOR SMITH, BLACK WATCH,
MAJOR LORD GEORGE STEWART-MURRAY, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. DAVID STEWART, BLACK WATCH,
CPL. ALEXANDER STEWART, S. HORSE R.A.M.C.,
RIFLEMAN ATHOLL STEWART, L.P.O. RIFLES,
CPL. JOHN STEWART, INNISKILLINGS,
CPL. DONALD TURNBULL, BLACK WATCH,
PTE. JOHN GEORGE WALLACE, GORDON HIGHLANDERS.


His Grace, The Duke of Atholl, who performed the unveiling ceremony, stood in the midst of his own people and his own county and there was no master of ceremony, in the shape of a chairman. Several hundreds of spectators, including a guard of honour of ex-servicemen, under the command of Mr Robertson, Brae Street, stood around the cairn, the Duke being accompanied by her Grace, the Duchess, Lord James Stewart Murray, Mr D. A. Tod and Lady Helen Tod, Colonel Steuart Fotheringham, Mr W. A. Rae, Capt. Heaven, Dr Mathers, Capt. K. Anderson, M.C., and Mrs Anderson, Baron Baillie Watson, President of the Memorial Committee, Mr A. Harris, Secretary, and other members of the Committee, viz: Mr George Stewart, Joint Secretary, Mr J. Sim, Mr J. M’Rosty, Mr D. Keir, Mrs E. Miller, and Mr Hugh Robertson.
The devotional part of the service was conducted by the Rev. C. M. Robertson, Little Dunkeld, Rev. J. M. Hamilton, Dunkeld U.F. Church, Rev. John M’Ainsh, and the Rev. W. Gwyther, St. Mary’s Church, Birnam.
Following upon the singing of the hymn, ‘Our God our help in ages past’, and the Prayer and Scripture lesson, the Duke drew aside the Union Jack which veiled the tablet and in doing so said:- “Ye are more than conquerors, who rest triumphantly unforgotten“. Those were the words penned by a Birnam boy, who willingly gave up his life, as did all his other comrades whose names are recorded on this monument, in order that his fellow countrymen might live secure. It must surely be very rare that a man unconsciously writes his own epitaph, and that it should be so suitable, and inscribed on a public memorial with his own name, within the time of his own generation. The words, I think, give us the keynote of the feeling that imbued our lads when they went forth to the front. They were not out for conquest, as we understood the word before the recent war. The mere physical lust for conquest was not part of the ‘drive’ that imbued them. They had to win, and they realised that victory meant much more than merely conquering a foe - it had to be the full triumph of right over wrong, and the ethics of Christianity over the work of the devil.
They won, and they rest triumphant. These words convey to us that if they had failed, there could hardly have been rest for them beyond the grave, but their spirits rest now, their swords sheathed, their souls triumphant, and their deeds will never be forgotten so long as history can hand down to future generations the account of how a million of men of British stock died that all that makes life worth living in a Christian country might be preserved for those that come after them.
They died in absolute faith that we should not forget them - not so much themselves, perhaps, but the heritage they left us.
We often used to say that war was unthinkable between two great European nations - we were wrong; but it would be unspeakable - none of us would be able to look the other in the face if, after all that had passed, we were not to do everything in our power to make good at the present time. We should be false to the memories of our comrades, we should be cheats to each other, if we were content to sit down now, and not pull our weight in this country. It is not given to everyone to pull the same weight, but all of us according to our strength and ability can help the ship of State along, and those who do not do their utmost, who tamper with the morale of the crew, who advise the members to take it easy during the storm which we are battling against at the present moment, are not only giving more work to those who are trimming the sails, and hanging onto the sheets, but are false to the memory of those who died, and are endangering not only the ship, but the lives of every man on board it.
We are passing through difficult times - we are going tom pass through still more difficult. We shall have difficulties of finance, we shall have unemployment, and all its attendant consequences of hunger and unrest. Such times can only be negotiated successfully if everyone tries to help his neighbour, asks for less for himself, denies himself, and tries to put himself a little more in the place of the other man.
During the war we had a great united thought - we had one goal - we had a great spirit of comradeship, but we also had great enthusiasm and uplift in the face of a common danger which was apparent to us all. Our difficulties today are far more prosaic, but nonetheless real. We live in a time of apathy, and the trumpets of war do not drown the whisper of those who wish ill to the State, as they did when they were face to face with an enemy whom we could see and appreciate - all of which means there is just as much danger to the State as there was during the war, though if we are wilfully deaf, and patently blind, we shall not realise it until it may be too late.
May this cairn standing here in the midst of our own little circle serve to remind us of our duty to one another - lest we forget. I now unveil this memorial to the Glory of God, who gave us the victory, and to the memory of these gallant men of these parishes who died in the defence of their country and the cause of honour and liberty.
Thereafter, the Paraphrase ‘How bright these glorious spirits shine’, was sung by all present, and the benediction pronounced. Then, in the midst of an impressive silence four of the Duke’s pipers, played the lament, ‘Lochaber No More’, and when this ceased, the Duke formally intimated that it was his intention to present the ground upon which the memorial stood to the Parishes of Dunkeld and Little Dunkeld for all time coming, and the rev. Mr Robertson, on behalf of the parish Council, in a word accepted the custody of the memorial and ground.
A large number of wreaths were afterwards placed at the foot of the cairn, one in particular that from Inver, being outstanding in that it contained flowers from every garden in the village.
Mr Godfrey Shepherd, Dundee, gave his services gratuitously as architect of the cairn, while the actual work was carried out by Mr James Kennedy. Some idea of the substantial character of the monument may be gathered from the fact that a considerable number of the stones comprising it weigh over two tons, the crowning stone being 5 cwts, over that figure.
The words referred to by the Duke of Atholl were penned by Lieut. Peter R. Purdie, son of Mr Purdie, late headmaster, Birnam, and now headmaster, Auchterarder.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: STEWART, JOHN WILLIAM
Initials: J W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Date of Death: 26/03/1918
Service No: 30967
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 25.
Memorial: JERUSALEM MEMORIAL

John is also listed on the Terregles War Memorial just north of Dumfries.
John William Stewart – age 34 – Lance Corporal (30967) 6th Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.
John had served his apprenticeship in Dunkeld, Perthshire and was Foreman Gardener at Terregles House when he enlisted as Private (2332) in the Lanarkshire Yeomanry.
Born 1884 in Spoutwells, Dunkeld, Perthshire. Son of the late Alexander Stewart and of Janet (Stewart) Stewart.
Husband of Mary (MacLean) of Underwood House near Kilmarnock who he married as Corporal (2332) in Jordanhill, Glasgow in February 1916.
(Source: Army Registers of Soldiers effects and GRoS – Marriage Register for Scotstoun & Yoker, Renfrewshire)
Missing in Action on 26 March 1918 and named on the Jerusalem Memorial, Israel.
The 10th (Irish) Division fought throughout the Palestine Campaign and participated in the capture of Jerusalem in December 1917. In the spring of 1918 they were involved in operations against the Turkish Army in the Jordan Valley.
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McLaren Cuthbert Pte 744 7th Gordon Highlanders born Dunkeld, Perth. enlisted Banchory Age 19 Killed in Action F & F 11-Jul-15 Son of James M & Mary Cuthbert, Cathedral St; Dunkeld. Royal Irish Rifles Graveyard, Laventie Fr 0706 Sp Mem 3 Banchory Lodge & Dunkeld
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:42 am    Post subject: William Annand Reply with quote

William Annand L/cpl S/8867 7th Seaforth Highlanders born Tarves enlisted Edinburgh Died Home 17-Mar-16 Son of Mrs M A Wallace, Kencragie Farm, Dalfuise, Dunkeld, Perthshire. Nunhead (All Saints) Cemetery, London. U. K. London Screen Wall Panel 1-6
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it the hill overlooks the old A9 Perth-Inverness Road?

Looking at one of the old photographs there seem to be no shrubs or trees on the hill. Compare it to this recent image from Google Maps Street View

http://g.co/maps/9qx3x

You can barely see the memorial, in fact if you didn't know it was there you'd be hard pressed to find it.

The position of this memorial would have been designed to let everyone passing through Dunkeld, Little Dunkeld and Birnam see it. Even folk using the train would have been able to see it.

Now it is hidden. Another memorial beside the same old road has suffered the same fate. Carrbridge's war memorial was once on a prime spot to be seen by passing travellers. Now both are hidden.

Should the trees be cut back here to make it more prominent again?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam,

I quite agree with you but I'm not sure how this could best be achieved. Actually, some trees directly in front of the memorial have been cut down as it WAS totally obscured but the ground just looks bare and unattractive now.

I'm sure there would be an outcry from the locals if the trees were chopped down despite the intended purpose.

There may be a talented someone who could achieve a balance between the trees & shrubbery and the memorial.

I think I posted previously that plans were afoot to erect a new memorial, in what form I know not, down from the hillock, possibly on the area of ground bounding the junction of A923 and Perth Road but this failed to materialise.
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Designed by Mills&Shepherd,Dundee.
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Donald Stewart McDiarmid Pte S/42156 6th Gordon Highlanders b Bankfoot, Perthshire e Perth Age 18 Killed in Action F&F 23/07/1918 Son of Alex. and Mary McDiarmid, of West Lodge, Birnam, Dunkeld, Perthshire. Born at Bankfoot, Perthshire. Soldiers Effects: Fa: Alexander. Marfaux British Cemetery Fr 0622 Plot VII Row C Grave 03 The Scotsman 04-09-18 P7: Birnam.
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