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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Holywood WW2 Reply with quote

Not listed on UKNIWM.

Although this memorial is inside Holywood church, I have listed it as a civic memorial because there is no other memorial that covers the area and no mention of church or parishioners on the memorial.

I have also posted a photo of the church, although you can see that it is not the most photogenic subject! And all I can say about the condition of the memorial is that the church has a very enthusiastic cleaner Wink

Holywood church is at OS Map Ref: NX 955 796

Transcription:
TO THE GLORY OF GOD
AND IN GRATEFUL MEMORY OF

THOMAS J M BELL PARA REGT
JOHN DOUGLAS RAF
PETER LITTLE QOCH
T K DOUGLAS LUCAS RAFVR
JOHN McKNIGHT MARTIN KOSB
ROBERT H PATTERSON RA
JOCK MARTIN RAF
HELEN MILDRED YOUNG WRNS

WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES
FOR THEIR COUNTRY IN THE WAR
1939 - 1945



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This church is currently for sale, I will try and find out about the memorial.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately although the memorial quotes "who gave their lives" I found no reference to Helen Young on either CWGC or SNWM.

Anybody have any further details of Helen?

Tony
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Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Helen Mildred Young Reply with quote

Tony

Helen Mildred Young, Druid Park, Holywood died age 25 in 1946 at Lochmaben. She is listed as a typist, no mention of service.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ken

Will attempt a bit of research later. Keep an eye on the thread

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Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The church is still for sale and the memorial is still inside the church. It is the intention that the memorial will be moved before the church is sold and relocated in Dumfries North West Church (Lochside) which is now the church for the area. I have asked to be kept informed.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Holywood Church - WW2 Plaque Reply with quote

In Dumfries & Galloway Standard 13/7/2012 Notice on Page 39, on Council Planning - Ref 12/P/3/0230 (B) Holywood Church, Holywood, Dumfries - removal of memorial plaque from internal wall

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THOMAS J. M. BELL, PARA. REGT.
Thomas John Murray Bell – age 20 – Corporal (3066533) 5th (Scottish) Battalion, The Parachute Regiment, Army Air Corps.
The 5th (Scottish) Parachute Battalion was formed by the conversion of the 7th Cameron Highlanders together with volunteers from other Scottish regiments for parachute duties. From December 1943 the 5th (Scottish) Parachute Battalion, as part of the 2nd Parachute Brigade, was attached to the 2nd New Zealand Division and took part in the battles along the River Sangro.
Born 1923 in Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire. Son of Thomas and Janet Bell of Nether Gribton Cottages, Holywood and of Auldgirth, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 23 January 1944 and buried in Sangro River War Cemetery, Italy.


JOHN DOUGLAS, R.A.F.
John James Douglas – age 22 – Aircraftman 1st Class (1562716) 2744 Squadron, RAF Regiment, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
John worked at Newtonairds Home Farm, Holywood when he enlisted. 2744 Squadron arrived in Italy in December 1943, initially based in the Naples area. Although their primary role was airfield defence, they later operated alongside Army units as infantry support at Monte Cassino on the Gothic Line. John was buried in a battlefield grave but was re-interred in Assisi in August 1946.
Born 1922 in Kirkconnel, Dumfriesshire as John James Lori.....Son of Mr. & Mrs. Douglas of Craigshields, Parkgate, Kirkmichael, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 30 June 1944 and buried in Assisi War Cemetery, Italy.
Also named on the Kirkmichael Parish War Memorial and on the Closeburn Parish War Memorial.


PETER LITTLE, Q.O.C.H.
Peter Little – age 23 – Private (14442568) 5th Battalion, Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders.
Peter was employed at Bellfield Farm, Holywood when he enlisted in January 1944. The 5th Camerons landed at Normandy on 7 June and fought around Caen and in August at the Falaise Gap.
Peter died of wounds at Coupersarte, near Lisieux and was buried there but was re-interred at Banneville in September 1945.
Born 1921 in Moffat, Dumfriesshire. Son of Jessie Helen Little. Nephew of Mary M. Little of Greenmill, Caerlavreock, Bankend, Dumfriesshire.
Died of Wounds on 20 August 1944 and buried in Banneville-La-Campagne War Cemetery, Calvados, France.


T. K. DOUGLAS LUCAS, R.A.F.V.R.
Thomas Kelly Douglas Lucas – age 21 – Sergeant/Air Gunner (1822712) 10 Squadron, Bomber Command, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
“Dougie” was employed at Rue Farm, Holywood when he enlisted. His Halifax bomber had taken off from RAF Melbourne near York for a raid on Mechelen, north of Brussels but the aircraft crashed at Eppegem.
Born 1922 in Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Archibald and Margaret (Henderson) Lucas of Rue Cottage, Holywood and of Auldgirth, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 2 May 1944 and buried in Brussels Town Cemetery, Belgium.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JOHN McKNIGHT MARTIN, K.O.S.B.
John McKnight Martin – age 24 – Corporal (3190457) Support Company, No.2 Mortar Platoon, 7th (Airborne) Battalion, King’s Own Scottish Borderers (Galloway), 1st Airlanding Brigade.
The first of the Horsa gliders carrying the 7th KOSB landed at Arnhem on the first day of the battle, Sunday 17 September 1944, to secure the Ginkel Heath position, designated as DZ-Y for the 4th Parachute Brigade. On 25 September the battalion were defending the perimeter near Oosterbeek Hoog Railway Station and that night the survivors were withdrawn to cross back over the Rhine.
Born 1919 at Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Robert and Elizabeth (McKnight) Martin of Charlesfield, Auldgirth, Holywood.
Killed in action on 25 September 1944 and buried in Arnhem Oosterbeek War Cemetery, Netherlands.
Also named on the Kirkgunzeon Parish War Memorial in Kirkcudbrightshire.
His brother Robert Martin, 5th KOSB had been a prisoner of war since the fall of France in June 1940 but he returned home to Charlesfield in May 1945.


ROBERT H. PATTERSON, R.A.
Thought to be:
Robert Houston Patterson – age 22 – Gunner (884432) 7 Medium Regiment, Royal Artillery.
The battle of the Mareth Line (19-26 March 1943) was the Eighth Army's last major set piece battle in North Africa, and saw them force the Germans and Italians to retreat from their last significant defensive position in southern Tunisia.
Born 1920 in Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire as Robert Patterson. Son of Robert and Annie (Houston) Patterson, of Shearington village Caerlaverock, Dumfriess-shire who had married in Borgue.
Killed in Action on 19 March 1943 and buried in Sfax War Cemetery, Tunisia.


JOCK MARTIN WATSON, R.A.F.
Jock Martin Watson – age 22 – Sergeant/Flight Engineer (1493014) 7 Squadron, Bomber Command, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
Jock had worked as a traveller in the drapery trade with his uncle William Austin of Hoole Road, Chester for five years and he was living with the family at Kilmory Park Road, Hoole when he enlisted in 1942. He had almost completed his 45 operations when his Lancaster bomber took off from RAF Oakington, near Cambridge, to attack the flying-bomb launch site at Coubronne in France. It is thought that the aircraft was brought down by a German night-fighter.
Born 1921 in Holywood. Son of John and Jessie Watson of Newbridge, Terregles, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Killed in Action on 24 June 1944 and buried in Wormhoudt Communal Cemetery, France.
Also named on the Terregles Parish War Memorial and on a stained glass window in Terregles Parish Church.


HELEN MILDRED YOUNG, W.R.N.S.
Helen Mildred Young – age 25 – Women's Royal Naval Service.
Helen had been a typist. She died of tuberculosis at the Dumfries and Galloway Sanatorium at Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire.
Born 1921 in Holywood. Daughter of Walter and Muriel Mary (Holt) Young of Druid Park, Holywood.
Died on 25 May 1946.
Burial place not known.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just noticed that the transcription of Jock Martin Watson's name on this memorial has missed his surname.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Holywood WW2 Plaque Reply with quote

Ken thanks for the information, have you any details for T.K. Douglas Lucas, RAF.VR Please?
Thanks,
Teddy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Holywood WW2 Plaque Reply with quote

teddy wrote:
Ken thanks for the information, have you any details for T.K. Douglas Lucas, RAF.VR Please?
Thanks,
Teddy


OOPS Embarassed Sorry, I missed him out - have amended post to include him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:17 pm    Post subject: Holywood Plaque WW2 Reply with quote

Ken, Many thanks for details re Lucas.
See both Holywood and Terregles put down places where men stayed on the WM's, very helpful for the research.
Jock Martin Watson is on a lovely stained glass window in Terrgeles Church, along with some other men - think 5 others, it is a beautiful window.
Regards,
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR, ex UKNIWM, memorial 72133
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have today updated the entries.
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