The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: CAMBUSBARRON

Situated outside the Bruce Memorial Church, Cambusbarron.

Location: Junction of St. Ninian's Road and Birkhill Road.
Map Ref: NS777924

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

World War 1.

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:

World War 2 + one man from 1956.

I'm awaiting some details on Pte. G. Morrison, Gordon Highlanders who died in 1956 and whose name was obviously added to the Memorial at a later date.

DelBoy · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: Memorial Transcription

WW1

A.&.S.Hdrs.

A. Adam, Lieut.
R. Walker, 2nd Lieut.
E.W. Wilson, 2nd Lieut.
R. Taylor, Lce.Cpl.
J.G. Wallace, Lce.Cpl
A. Abercromby, Pte.
A. Auchinvole, Pte.
J.A. Buchanan, Pte.
C. Cant D.C.M., Pte.
A. Donaldson, Pte.
J. Dron, Pte.
J. Drysdale, Pte.
T.M. Gall, Pte.
W.S. Lawrie, Pte.
J. McFarlane, Pte.

Cameron Hdrs.

A.J.G. Murray, 2nd Lieut.
P. Rutherford, Pte.

H.L.I.

J. Cossar, 2nd Lieut.
J. Jackson, Pte.

Gordon Hdrs.

C. Hunter, Pte.
J. Kerr, Pte.
G.N. Smith, Pte.
R.G. Wilson, Pte.

Ls.&.B. Horse

C.F. Younger, Lieut.

Northd. Fus.

Arch. Fisher, Pte.

R.E.

L. Duff, Cpl.

R.Hdrs. (Black Watch)

H. Goodwin, Lce.Cpl.
J. Goodwin, Pte.
T. Gowanlock, Pte.
Alex. Fisher, Pte.

Royal Navy

G.W. MacFarlane, C.P.O.

Royal Scots

A. Neil, Cpl.

COLONIAL FORCES

A.I.F.

W.G. Hunter, Lace.Cpl.
J.M. MacFarlane, Pte.

C.E.F.

T. Donaldson
H. Gardiner, Pte.

WW2

R.N.

O. Mulrein, Str.

A.&S.Hdrs.

A. McDonald, Cpl.
A. Beedie, Pte.

Fife & Forfar Yeo.

J. Dow, Tpr.

M.N.

D.C. Jenkins, Sub.Lt.

Pioneer Corps.

P. Bradie, Sgt.

R.A.F.

J. Jack, Sgt.
W. Cooper, A/C.

Gordon Hdrs.
G. Morrison, Pte. Died from wounds 1956.

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject:

Did the Gordons private die of Second World War wounds? If so that was a long time to suffer.

Adam

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject:

Quite a few officers listed amongst the First World War names on this memorial

ADAM, ALLAN
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 2nd Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 01/10/1918
Additional information: Younger son of the Rev. James Allan Adam M.A., and Mary Borland Ewing Adam, of Killorn Villa, 19, Park Place, Stirling. Student of Arts (Glasgow Univ.) and member of the O.T.C. Gazetted 2nd Lt. 17th Aug., 1915. Previously wounded at Beaumont Hamel, Nov., 1916. Born at Ellon, Aberdeenshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. D. 7.
Cemetery: FLESQUIERES HILL BRITISH CEMETERY

WALKER, RALPH
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 21/04/1917
Additional information: Son of Agnes Walker, of 4, Douglas Terrace, Stirling, and the late James Walker. Came from Japan to enlist.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 41.
Memorial: BASRA MEMORIAL

WILSON, EVAN WELLDON
Initials: E W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 11th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 23/04/1917
Additional information: Son of william and Ada Jane Wilson, of 7, Park Place, Stirling,.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 9.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

MURRAY, ALASTAIR JOHN GREVILLE
Initials: A J G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 14/09/1914
Additional information: Son of Maj. Alastair Murray and Mary Murray, of Polmaise Castle, Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: L. 8.
Cemetery: MONTCORNET MILITARY CEMETERY

COSSAR, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 16/08/1916
Additional information: Son of William Cossar and Margaret G. Ballingall (his wife), of Strathview, Cambusbarron, Stirling. Student of Glasgow University, and Lt. of 1st Ninians Coy. Boys'' Brigade.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Officers, A. 6. 7.
Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY, ROUEN

YOUNGER, CHARLES FREARSON
Initials: C F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Lothians and Border Horse
Age: 31
Date of Death: 21/03/1917
Additional information: Son of 1st Viscount Younger of Leckie and Lucy, his wife; husband of Marjory Caroline Younger, of Gartur, Stirling, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: M. 8.
Cemetery: AVELUY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject:

MULREIN, OWEN
Initials: O
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Stoker
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Patrol Service
Unit Text: H.M.S. Trawler Kingston Jacinth.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 12/01/1943
Service No: LT/KX121458
Additional information: Son of James and Bridget Mulrein, of Cambusbarron.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. R. Grave 15.
Cemetery: STIRLING (BALLENGEICH) CEMETERY

JACK, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (W.Op./Air Gnr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 33
Date of Death: 27/10/1941
Service No: 1058354
Additional information: Son of William Maltman Jack and Jane McEwan Jack, of Cambusbarron; husband of Patricia Margaret Cummings Jack.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. E. Grave 41.
Cemetery: STIRLING (BALLENGEICH) CEMETERY

COOPER, W
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 21
Date of Death: 05/10/1944
Service No: 1553142
Additional information: Son of Robert and Helen Cooper, of Cambusbarron.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. C.9. Grave 21.
Cemetery: ST. NINIANS (BANNOCKBURN) PARISH BURIAL GROUND

DelBoy · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: Gowanlock

R.Hdrs. (Black Watch)
T. Gowanlock, Pte.

Hmm, Can't find him on CWGC. Anyone able to identify him?

Cheers,
Derek.

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject:

BRADY, PHILIP Bradie on memorial
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Pioneer Corps
Age: 44
Date of Death: 05/11/1941
Service No: 13051189
Additional information: Son of Philip and Anne Brady, of Cambusbarron.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. B.9. Grave 38.
Cemetery: ST. NINIANS (BANNOCKBURN) PARISH BURIAL GROUND*

Edit/Anne

See Bannockburn Cemetery thread: http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=22&mforum=scottishwargraves

*Another of CWGC's little idiosyncrasies - All the burials in this cemetery are listed under 'St. Ninians (Bannockburn) Parish Burial Ground' rather than Bannockburn Cemetery which leads to much confusion over the actual location.

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Gowanlock

apanderson · Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject:

Just came across this man on Dailly Civic Memorial, Ayrshire:

The name is 'similar' to Gowanlock, the man nobody can find details for and he appears not to have any connections that we know of to Dailly, and nothing that we know of for Cambusbarron either.

He was however, at least in the Black Watch, had he first name 'T' and was a corporal!! Laughing

CWGC
Name: GOVENLOCK, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 24/10/1916
Service No: S/9028
Additional information: Son of Thomas and Jane Govenlock, of Lee Place, Stow, Midlothian.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 10 A.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: GOVENLOCK
Firstname: Thomas
Service Number: S/9028
Date Death: 24/10/1916
Place of birth: Clovenford Selkirkshire
Other: 9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Cpl

Dailly Memorial: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1210&highlight=dailly

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:50 pm Post subject:

Thomas Govenlock is also listed on the Stow War Memorial.

Adam

columba · Joined: 19 Feb 2014 Posts: 404

Don't know if this is relevant or helpful, but Alex T Gowanlock was the minister of Allan Park Church in Stirling at the time of the Great War (and for several years before). He also conducted at least one marriage in Cambusbarron Church. (The parents of one of the men I'm researching)

apanderson · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that wee bit of info columba.

The problem seems to be that none of us can find a 'match' on any of the usual sites, so it's a mystery as to why that is and why he's listed on Cambusbarron's memorial!

He's not on the Stirling Civic Memorial or any other local Stirling ones as far as I can see.

Anne

columba · Joined: 19 Feb 2014 Posts: 404

I wonder if he was discharged through ill-health. One of "my" lads is not on CWGC database, possibly because he was discharged under paragraph 392 XVI King's Regulations - "sick". He later died in ERI of something unpronounceable that leads to kidney failure. Perhaps T Gowanlock was something similar; I looked on Scotland's People but only 2 of that name died between 1914 and 1924 - one in Glasgow aged 50 something and one in Logie, Stirling aged 87.
Sandra