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Dumfries and Maxwelltown Painters **Photographs Required**

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Dumfries and Maxwelltown Painters **Photographs Required** Reply with quote

Not listed on UKNIWM

Location: Original location not confirmed but believed to be in the main bar of the Globe Inn, 56 High Street, Dumfries at OS Map Ref NX 972 759. Its current location is unknown.

The unveiling of this memorial was reported in the Dumfries and Galloway Standard and Advertiser of 26th April 1922 and in another local paper of the same date. In one paper it is reported that the memorial is in the Hall of the Globe Inn and in the other that it is in the Globe Hotel Hall. Over a hundred men from Dumfries and Maxwelltown Painters Trade had served in the war so we can suppose that the number of men at the unveiling would have been close to, or even exceeded 100. There are currently two Globe Inns in Dumfries, one is a small bar in Maxwelltown which has never had a hall and is large enough for only 20 – 30 people with no sign of any memorial so we can discount that. Local trades directories, enquiries at the Ewart Library and the local Family History Society show no other Globe Hotels or Inns at the period so that leaves only the one on the High Street.

The Globe Inn (High Street) has never had a separate hall, nor is there any sign of the memorial there currently. The Inn has been in the ownership of the same family since the 1930s and they have no knowledge of the memorial, nor have any major changes or alterations been made in their ownership, it is a very historical building. It is difficult to understand that the memorial might have been removed within just 10 or so years of its unveiling. All of the rooms are quite small and could not relate to the hall described except for one large (long) room which is now used as the main bar.

The newspaper reports the position as occupying a prominent position in the centre of the end wall of the room, facing the door. If this refers to the main bar then this is exactly where the doors are to the Ladies and Gentlemens Toilets. So that is the probable location, but what happened to it and when?

Transcription of newspaper article which contains description of memorial and list of names to follow:-
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transcription from Dumfries and Galloway Standard and Advertiser dated 26 April 1922.

Dumfries Painters Memorial

Roll of Honour Unveiled

An interesting gathering was held in the Globe Hotel Hall, Dumfries on Saturday evening, when a memorial to members of the painters’ craft belonging to Dumfries and Maxwelltown, who fell in the great war was unveiled with appropriate ceremony. The memorial, a symbolical figure of “painting” occupies a prominent position in the centre of the end wall of the room, facing the door. It is the work of Mr George Graham, one of the veteran members of the craft in the town, and of his son, Mr Claude Graham, who, unfortunately, was taken ill and died while the work was in progress. The painting has a representation of a female figure holding a palette in her right hand, while with the left she points to the inscription which occupies the centre of the upper part of the picture. The inscription is as follows: “In commemoration of those belonging to the painting trade in Dumfries and Maxwelltown who made the supreme sacrifice during the great war.” At the bottom left hand corner there is a shiedl with the painters’ arms and the motto, “Amor et Obedientia.” An ornamental border with the rose, thistle and shamrock intertwined encloses the symbols, and the list of
NAMES OF THE FALLEN
which are as follows: Second-Lieutenant J. M. Haining,, K.O.S.B.; Sergeant J. Hewitson, A. and S.H.; Corporal R. Constantine, H.L.I.; Lance-Corporal A. McGeorge, K.O.S.B.; Private A. McKenzie, K.O.S.B.; Private J. Bryden, K.O.S.B.; Private Albert Law, K.O.S.B.; Private J Coyle, K.O.S.B.; Private D. Bouskill, K.O.S.B.; Private R. Brown, K.O.S.B.; Sergeant William Brown, R.G.A.; Private William Neisham, R.E.; Private J. Nelson, S.R.; Private A. Jamieson, B.W.; Private J. McAdam, Con. R.; Private J. Graham, H.L.I.; Private Alexander McAdam, R.E.; Private R. Simm, R.S.; Gunner J. Bell, R.G.A.; Private Alexander Harrison, K.O.S.B.; Private Robert Jackson, K.O.S.B.
The memorial is enclosed in a massive oak frame, this part of the work having been executed by the late Mr D. Constantine.
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In the article, there follows a description of the ceremony which mentions a welcome home ceremony for members of the craft which had been held in the same hall two years previously. Also mentioned that over 100 members of the trade had gone to fight and 21 had “made the supreme sacrifice”. The memorial was unveiled by the president, Mr Wilson who accepted it into their safe custody.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds like a really fine and interesting memorial. I do hope that it has survived somewhere, failing that, that a photographic record turns up.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intriguing, good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least the names were recorded in the newspaper at the time.

Having just seen some of Dhubtaigh's posts on the Perthshire Rolls in private hands then hopefully it is in safe hands somewhere local.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have persuaded the D&G Standard to run an article on it.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mary "Govangirl" mentioned one of these men recently:

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=65774#65774

Dumfries & Galloway Standard 30 January 1915
"RECRUITING AT DUMFRIES
There has been a considerable falling off this week in the numbers coming forward for enlistment at Dumfries. The following men have been attested since Wednesday.
KITCHENER'S ARMY
..........David Bouskill, painter, Ardrossan, Royal Regiment of Artillery..."

Dumfries & Galloway Standard 27 February 1915
"CARPET BOWLING ASSOCIATION
We publish the third list made up to date of carpet bowlers serving with the colours. About 60 clubs are represented so far, and the number of names published now reach the considerable aggregate of 880. Many clubs have still to make their returns, and it is anticipated that the complete roll will reach to well over 1000. Further returns should be sent to the secretary, Mr Wm. Mackenzie, Mouswald, Ruthwell
GLENCAPLE
....David Bouskill, R.F.A...."

Dumfries & Galloway Standard 25 December 1918
FUNERAL INTIMATION
THE FUNERAL of Gunner DAVID BOUSKILL, M.M., will leave ARDFERN, Glencaple, for CAERLAVEROCK CHURCHYARD, at One p.m., on THURSDAY, 26th DECEMBER (With Military Honours)
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All Friends respectfully invited to attend. This the only intimation and invitation"

CWGC Information

Name: BOUSKILL
Initial: D
Regiment: Royal Field Artillery
Unit: 11th Bty, 64th Bds
Date of Death: 20/12/1918
Awards: M M
Cemetery; CAERLAVEROCK PARISH CHURCHYARD

David is also on the Memorial in Saltcoats, Ayrshire
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following article appealing for information was published in the D&G Standard of 31st October 2014. Unfortunately the photo in the original article was of Ken Morrison and not me so I have taken the liberty of blanking it out. They also declined to publish the list of names which had been on my draft to them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexander McAdam was born in Balmaclellan and is listed on the Balmaclellan and Dumfries memorials.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Balmaclellan memorial as:

SAPr. A. McADAM, R.E. 21 JULY 1916.

Alexander McAdam, Sapper (136490) 175th Field Company, Royal Engineers. Age 30.
Alexander was a painter who had served his apprenticeship in Dumfries before moving to Edinburgh. He enlisted there in October 1915 and went to France in November.
Born 1886 in Balmaclellan. Son of James and Margaret (Muir) McAdam. Grandson of John Muir, Schoolmaster at Balmaclellan.
Killed in action on 21 July 1916 and buried in Ecoivres Military Cemetery, Mont-St.Eloi, France.
Also named on the St. Michael's Church memorial in Dumfries and on the Dumfries War Memorial.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This memorial is now on the WMR, ex UKNIWm, as report 71632
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