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David McNay
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Carnwath Reply with quote

DSCN9210 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

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alexmaclennan



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Carnwath WM Inscription Reply with quote

What I recorded for UKNIWM:


Main Dedication Inscription

TO THE GLORY OF GOD
AND SACRED TO THE MEMORY
OF THE MEN OF THIS PARISH
WHO FELL IN THE GREAT WAR
1914 TO 1918


Names of Fallen in three columns. Major William Bertram is the only person gIven a rank. Forename and surnames of rest are given and remaining names are arranged alphabetically.

MAJOR WILLIAM BERTRAM

LH Column

JOHN ALEXANDER
WILLIAM ALEXANDER
JOHN BURTON
JOHN CLARK
ROBERT COOPER
ADAM COPLAND
JAMES FORREST
JOHN B. GORDON


Centre Column

ALEXANDER KAY
JOHN KAY
HUGH LIVINGSTONE
DAVID K. MICHIE
ANDREW MCMORRAN
WILLIAM ORR
ALEXANDER RANKIN
WILLIAM ROBERTSON


RH Column

JOHN RUSSELL
JOHN RUSSELL
ROBERT SOMERVILLE
GEORGE SPENCE
JAMES SPENCE
WILLIAM STAIRMAND
RAYMOND VEITCH
GEORGE WHITE

“THEIR NAME LIVETH FOR EVERMORE”


Names of WW2 Fallen in two columns. Forename and surnames are given and names are arranged alphabetically.

ALSO
IN EVERLASTING REMEMBRANCE OF THE MEN OF
CARNWATH AND DISTRICT WHO DIED IN DEFENCE
OF THEIR KING AND COUNTRY
1939 - 1945

ADAM B. BROWN
JOHN W. A. COPLAND
JOHN C. IRVING
WILLIAM B. JAMIESON
HENRY RUDGE
JOHN SOMMERVILLE
ARCHIBALD C. STEELE


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An uncommon unit for one of the Great War dead

SPENCE, JAMES
Rank: Trooper
Regiment/Service: Cullinan's Horse
Age: 37
Date of Death: 28/02/1915
Service No: 464
Additional information: Son of Thomas and Betsy Spence, of Braehead, Carnwath, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Buried in Kamden Farm Cemetery, Kuruman District.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A/C. Sp. Mem.
Cemetery: Upington (Station) Cemetery, South Africa
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I've just realised my namesake (no relation) is on this memorial for the Second World War

BROWN, ADAM
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Age: 40
Date of Death: 05/08/1944
Service No: 2761378
Additional information: Son of Adam Baird Brown and Agnes Minto Brown; husband of Elizabeth Jackson Brown, of Carnwath.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 2183.
Cemetery: CARNWATH NEW CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Tpr. James Spence Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
An uncommon unit for one of the Great War dead

SPENCE, JAMES
Rank: Trooper
Regiment/Service: Cullinan's Horse
Age: 37
Date of Death: 28/02/1915
Service No: 464
Additional information: Son of Thomas and Betsy Spence, of Braehead, Carnwath, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Buried in Kamden Farm Cemetery, Kuruman District.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A/C. Sp. Mem.
Cemetery: Upington (Station) Cemetery, South Africa


(Glasgow Herald 12th March 1915)
"On service, near Vryburg, South Africa. Trooper James Spence, age 35 years, Cullinan's Horse, son of the late Thomas Spence, Highcross Farm, Yieldshields and Braehead, Carnwath, Lanarkshire."

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:34 pm    Post subject: Serjeant Thomas Hope Reply with quote

Thomas Hope
Not on the memorial but parents lived at Carnwath.
Son of James and Margaret Henderson Hope, of Townhead, Carnwarth, Lanarkshire.

CWGC
Rank: Serjeant
Service No: 3/4339
Date of Death: 01/04/1918
Age: 38
Regiment/Service: Hampshire Regiment, 10th Bn.
Grave Reference: 1386.
Cemetery: SALONIKA (LEMBET ROAD) MILITARY CEMETERY

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Name: Thomas Hope
Birth Place: Mid Calder, Edinburgh
Residence: West Calder, Edinburgh
Death Date: 1 Apr 1918
Death Location: Balkans
Enlistment Location: Winchester
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment: Hampshire Regiment
Battalion: 10th Battalion
Number: 3/4339
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Balkan Theatre

Death Notice:
Hope: Died of wounds on 1st April, Sergeant Thomas Hope, Hants Regiment, Salonica Force, third son of James Hope, Carnwath, late of West Calder.
Midlothian Advertiser, 3 May 1918
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:06 am    Post subject: John B Gordon GH Reply with quote

John B Gordon Private S/10746 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Kirkcudbright e Lanark Age 29 Killed in Action Somme, France 01/07/1916 Son of Samuel and Janet Gordon, of Netherplace, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire; husband of Margaret Gordon, of Main St., Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Soldiers Effects: Widow: Margaret. Dantzig Alley British Cemetery, Mametz Fr 0397 Plot IV Row G Grave 08 Daily Record 03-08-16 P5: Carnwath & Lockerbie
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JOHN B. GORDON,
John Borthwick Gordon – age 29 – Private (S/10746) 2nd Battalion, Gordon Highlanders.
John was a painter with the Caledonian Railway at Carstairs Junction when he enlisted in mid-1915. He was killed on the first day of the 1916 Battle of the Somme. (Source: Hamilton Advertiser 22/7/1916 p.5)
Born 1886 in Kirkcudbright. Son of Samuel and Janet (McQueen) Gordon, of Netherplace Cottage, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire. Husband of Margaret (Callander) Gordon of Main Street, Carnwath, Lanarkshire who he married in 1910 in Hoddom, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 1 July 1916 and buried in Dantzig Alley British Cemetery, Mametz, France.
Also named Caledonian Railway Company memorial in Glasgow Central Station, and on the Lockerbie War Memorial and on the St. Cuthbert's United Free Church memorial in Lockerbie together with his two brothers - Samuel Gordon – age 23 – Private (S/14228) 1/6th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders who died on 10 July 1917 and Thomas William Gordon – age 34 – Private (S/11731) 8th/10th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders who died three weeks later on 31 July 1917.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name; BERTRAM, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Major
Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment
Date of Death: 15/2/1915
Age: 55
Additional Information: Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal. Son of William and Adelaide Bertram; husband of Ethel A. Bertram, of Kersewell, Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Was for 5 years (from 1889) Adjutant of the Scottish Rifles. Served in the Egyptian (1882) and South-African Campaigns; later Lt. Colonel Commanding 9th (Lanark) Bn. Highland Light Inf. Re-joined 1914.
Grave Reference: 521. (Against South gable of Church.)
Cemetery: Coulter Parish Churchyard.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: ALEXANDER, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: private
Service Number: S/18510
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders, 5th Bn
Date of Death: 18/7/1916
Age: 19
Additional Information: Son of John Alexander, of 20, Clark Terrace, Carnwath, Lanarkshire, and the late Mary C. B. Alexander.
Panel Reference: Pier and Face 15B
Memorial: Thiepval Memorial.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: ALEXANDER, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: S/10047
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders, 6th Bn, "C" Coy
Date of Death: 26/9/1915
Age: 26
Additional Information: Son of William Alexander, of "Gowanlea", Carstairs Junction, Lanarkshire.
Panel Reference: Panel 119 to 124
Memorial: Loos Memorial.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: CLARK, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service Number: 198
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry, 11th Bn
Date of Death: 25/9/1915
Panel Reference: Panel 108 to 112
Memorial: Loos Memorial.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: COPLAND, A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Service Number: DM2/189584
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Service Corps, 767th Coy
Date of Death: 22/1/1919
Age: 35
Additional Information: Son of Adam and Grace Copland, of Carnwath; husband of Susan Weir Copland, of Watson House, Carnwath, Lanarkshire.
Grave Reference: 1211
Cemetery: Mikra British Cemetery, Kalamaria.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: KAY, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Service Number: 66888
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry), 36th Coy
Date of Death: 30/11/1917
Panel Reference: Panel 12 and 13
Memorial: Cambrai Memorial, Louverval.

And his brother:

Name: KAY, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Service Number: 32314
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers, 6th Bn
Date of Death: 3/6/1918
Panel Reference: Panel 5
Memorial: Ploegsteert Memorial.
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Name: LIVINGSTONE, HUGH
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Service Number: 15252
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers, 7th Bn
Date of Death: 26/9/1915
Panel Reference: Panel 46 to 49
Memorial: Loos Memorial.
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