The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

Adam Brown · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: Moray War Memorials discussion

This thread is now solely for discussion of potential memorials not covered by the Project in the Moray area.

Where known I have included the memorial’s location. Its OS reference point and its entry on the UKNIWM database.

If there are any additions or corrections needed on this list please let me know.

I have also added links to memorials posted in this forum. They are the blue ones in the list.

Last updated by Roxy on 20 Oct 12

Adam

Civic
Aberlour, Location - The Square , UKNIWM Ref no: 8642
Alves, Location - West End of Village near School , UKNIWM Ref no: 8698
Archiestown and Knockando, Location - The Square , UKNIWM Ref no: 8699
Bellie, Location - Churchyard, UKNIWM Ref no: 44586
Birnie, Location - On Churchyard Wall
Bridge of Avon , Location - Near Delnashaugh Hotel , UKNIWM Ref no: 8644
Buckie , Location - Cluny Square N.W. Quadrant
Burghead, Location - Grant Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 8702
Cabrach, Location - Plaque in Church
Craigellachie, Location - Victoria Street (adjacent to Church overlooking river) , UKNIWM Ref no: 8647
Cullen , Location - Overlooking the Square , UKNIWM Ref no: 8649
Cummingston, Location - Central on Main Road through Village , UKNIWM Ref no: 8704
Dallas, Location - West End of Village on Knockando Road , UKNIWM Ref no: 8705
Deskford, Location - St John's Church, Cullen-Keith Road at Kirkton , UKNIWM Ref no: 8651
Drummuir, Location - Beside Church , UKNIWM Ref no: 8652
Dufftown & Mortlach , Location - Garden on Balvenie Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 8653
Duffus, Location - Parish Church , UKNIWM Ref no: 8707 , OS Ref: NJ 167 687
Dyke , Location - Plaque on Wall of Cemetery Entrance , UKNIWM Ref no: 8708
Edinkillie , Location - On Church Boundary Wall, fronting onto Car Park , UKNIWM Ref no: 8542
Elgin, Burgh , Location - Plain Stones, High Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 6009
Findhorn & Kinloss Parish, Location - Junction at Entrance to Village , UKNIWM Ref no: 8710
Findochty, Location - Vantage Point on Sea Bases West of Village , UKNIWM Ref no: 8654
Fochabers and Bellie , Location - Entrance to Gordon Castle Policies , UKNIWM Ref no: 8712
Forres, Community , Location - St. Catherines Road near Victoria Roundabout , UKNIWM Ref no: 8711
Garmouth , Location - High Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 8713
Glenrinnes and Kirkhill, Location - In Cemetery , UKNIWM Ref no: 8658
Grange , Location - On Keith-Banff Road, 5 miles from Keith UKNIWM Ref no:8659
Hopeman, Location - Memorial Hall , UKNIWM Ref no: 8715
Keith, Burgh, Location - Memorial Garden, Church Road , UKNIWM Ref no: 8660
Keith, WW2, Location - Memorial Garden, Church Road , UKNIWM Ref no: 8662
Keith, Post-Ww2, Location - Memorial Garden, Church Road
Kellas, Location - East End of Village , UKNIWM Ref no: 8716
Kinloss, Location - See Findhorn
Lhanbryde, Location - Old Cemetery, St. Andrews Road, UKNIWM Ref no: 8717
Lossiemouth, Location - Former Railway Station, Clifton Road built into Rock Face. UKNIWM Ref no: 8718
Miltonduff, Location - Junction of Distillery Road, UKNIWM Ref no: 8719
Mosstodloch , Location - On A96 in Centre of Village , UKNIWM Ref no: 8720 , OS Ref: NC 893 554
Mulben, Location - Beside Hall , UKNIWM Ref nos: 8665 & 44588
New Elgin, Ashcroft and Moycroft , Location - Cemetery Drive, New Elgin Road , UKNIWM Ref no: 8709
Newmill, Location - Part of Clock Tower , UKNIWM Ref no: 8666
Pluscarden, Location - Entry to Drive leading to Pluscarden Church , UKNIWM Ref no: 8722
Portgordon , Location - Post Office, Gordon Square , UKNIWM Ref no: 8669
Portknockie , Location - Church Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 8670
Rafford, Location - Junction B9010 , UKNIWM Ref no: 8723
Rothes, Location - Anvil Gardens , UKNIWM Ref no: 8724
Rothiemay (Milltown of Rothiemay) & Rothiemany Parish, Location - Junction of B9117 and B9118 , UKNIWM Ref no: 8672
Tomintoul, Location - External Wall of Richmond Memorial Hall, UKNIWM Ref no:8673
Tomnavoulin and Glenlivet Parish, Location - Opposite Village Green, Glenlivet Distillery , UKNIWM Ref no: 8674
Urqhuart , Location - Main Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 8725

Church

Forres, St Laurence Church Parishioners, Great War, Location - The Chancel, St Laurence Church
Forres, St Laurence Church Parishioners, WW2, Location - The Chancel, St Laurence Church

School

West End Primary School - Elgin

Individual
Forres, Nelson Memorial , location - Forres Tower, Cluny Hill , UKNIWM Ref No. 44834
Forres, Thomson Memorial , location - Site of Forres Castle, additional info. Surgeon James Thomson, Crimea
Forres, Nimrod MR2 XV230, location - adjacent to Forres War Memorial
Kinloss, Nimrod XV230, location - Kinloss Barracks
Elgin, Bruce Memorial , Location - Elgin Academy, UKNIWM Ref no: 47613

Regiment & Unit
Dallachy, RAF, 14 Advanced Flying Unit , Location - Site of RAF Dallachy , UKNIWM Ref no: 44601
Dallachy, Dallachy Strike Wing , location - Site of RAF Dallachy , UKNIWM Ref No. 13433
Elgin, Seaforth Highlanders, Great War, Location - Cooper Park, Elgin
Elgin, , 20 Operational Training Unit, Location - Site of RAF Elgin, 2 miles southwest of Elgin on B9010 , OS Ref: NJ 195 603
Forres 19 Operational Training Unit , Location - RAF Forres , UKNIWM Ref no: 44603
Keith, Gordon Highlanders, Great War, 6th Bn, Location - Memorial Garden, Church Road , UKNIWM Ref no: 8661

Other

Ben Aigen, Whitley Air Crash, Location - Slopes of Ben Aigen.
Cromdale, Cromdale -1690, Cromdale Kirk
Forres, Whitley Air Crash , Location - Fulton Street , UKNIWM Ref no: 44614
Garmouth, Hurricane Air Crash , Location - On B9015 , UKNIWM Ref no: 44611 , OS Ref: NJ 335 638
Lossiemouth, Wellington Air Crash , Location - OS Ref NJ 230 700, UKNIWM Ref no: 44620
Sueno's Stone, Forres
Elgin Post Office War Memorials
Elgin Post Office WW1
Elgin Post Office WW2

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject:

If you look at the list above Roxy has now completed the Morayshire civic list. Another area in Scotland where we now have 100% of the civic memorials listed.

Well done Roxy on getting the last few for the forum.

Regards

Adam

dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject:

Roxy,
Well done indeed.

Adam,
What are the overall percentages for the civic memorials looking like now?

Mark

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject:

Mark

I'm glad you asked! We now have all the civic memorials in these areas:

Angus & City of Dundee
Badenoch
Borders
Bute
Dumfries & Galloway
East Lothian
Falkirk
Lanarkshire
Moray
Nairn
Perth & Kinross
West Lothian

And these are the numbers we still need to get for the other areas.

Aberdeen City - 1
Central Scotland - Clackmannan - 1
City of Glasgow - 1
Highland - Sutherland - 1
Argyll & Bute - Mull - 2
City of Edinburgh - 2
Dunbartonshire - 2
Highland - Islands - 2
Midlothian - 2
Argyll & Bute - Islands - 3
Argyll & Bute - Islay - 4
Western Isles - 4
Highland - Lochaber - 5
Highland - Skye & Lochalsh - 5
Highland - Inverness - 6
Central Scotland - Stirling - 8
Highland - Caithness - 8
Highland - Ross & Cromarty - 10
Orkney - 10
Fife - 11
Renfrewshire & Inverclyde - 11
Shetland - 15
Argyll & Bute - Mainland - 16
Ayrshire - 16
Aberdeenshire - 22

That's only 168 left out of 1375 (or 88%)

I'm going to start posting the lists of missing ones over the next few days.

Cheers

Adam

Roxy · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Moray - to do list

A sad indictment of the 21st century is that, other than when there is a service ongoing, it is difficult to obtain entry to churches. Consequently, I have still 'to do' the Forres St Laurence Church Parishioners memorial plaques. Furthermore, despite a number of visits, I have been unable to find the memorials to the Hurricane crash at Garmouth nor the Wellington crash at Lossiemouth. I'll ask around, but, in the meantime, if anyone can help, post or PM me and I'll trot along.

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.

Roxy · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:

I might have found the Wellington and Hurricane memorials thanks to The Moray Firth Aviation Trail

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.

spoons · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject:

Sorry to undo the perfect record, but...............

I found a reference to a war memorial at Ballindalloch (Inveravon Parish) in Banffshire. I think it is even shown on OS maps as memorial. It is not listed on UKNIWM.

I will add it to the main list.

\Paul

Roxy · Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:16 am Post subject:

I've checked with the Moray Burial Ground Research Group website and the memorial that they refer to as 'Ballindalloch' is the same one that we refer to as 'Bridge of Avon' - as does the UKNIWM - I will leave it as it is. I have removed 'Ballindalloch' from the 'to do' list. But a good try Spoons! You had me a bit worried.

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.

spoons · Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the update, every now and then I find a reference which does turn out to be a new memorial. Sorry I can't check them all out before I post.

\Paul

Roxy · Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject:

Mate,

I'd rather that you did post - otherwise we might miss some! Even if only the odd post proves to be a rabbit hole, you might find memorials that would otherwise fail to be posted.

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.

Roxy · Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject:

Jim (kinnethmont) has asked - on another thread - whether I would change the name of 'Bridge of Avon' to reflect the parish that the memorial commemorates. I am inclined to leave the thread with the same name as the UKNIWM; however, I may be open to persuasion. If required, I'll ask the Boss.

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Roxy

I have not raised this further as I had hoped better photos might appear which also showed the reverse of the memorial. I suspect it is down as Bridge of Avon on UKNIWM due to an old RBLS list simply detailing it's location

For the reasons detailed in the post you mention this, and the memorial at Glenlivet, comprise the whole of Inveravon Parish.
UNNIWM have already confirmed they wish to list by parish ( sometimes location in addition) and I believe the " Bosses " will confirm we are using the same format.
This one should be changed to the Parish of Inveravon + ( Delnashaugh, Ballindalloch or Bridge of Avon).

The other one should be changed to the Parish of Glenlivet, as confirmed by the memorials text. If you check UKNIWM it is not listed as stated in the post. I placed the UKNIWM details there last month. If you can move them to the top, please delete my post.

If you want to mention both were originally in Banffshire that would be great.
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Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk

Roxy · Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: Moderator - Moray

Now that the Moray - at least the civic - memorials are complete, I feel that there is nothing more that I can do as a Moderator.

I had intended to do some administrative 'tidying up' regarding the different names, used for at least a couple of memorials, that I have noticed between different groups (us/UKNIWM/the owners/MBGRG); however, following the thread on this topic, I have decided against this. Wink

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.

DelBoy · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject:

I think Mortlach Memorial Hall can be added to the "To Do" list.

According to the Aberdeenshire council "Mortlach Memorial Hall, Albert Place, Dufftown. Acquired by the parish to commemorate lives lost in WWII."

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Derek

Although the link takes you to the Aberdeenshire Council site Mortlach Hall is listed there under the Moray Council SMR list. Aberdeenshire are not involved at Dufftown. Mortlach was formerly Banffshire, now attached to Moray. Many, like me, think it should still be Banffshire.
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Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk