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john burnett



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: 5th BATT HLI Reply with quote

Thanks to Norman Myles for photos.
Situated wihin Methil Parish Church.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is unusual, I don't think I've seen a memorial like this before. I notice the memorial is in the same style as the congregation's plaque.

I wonder if the men kept in touch with the church after they left?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like all the men listed died within a six week period in July and August 1915.

CLEUGH, JAMES
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 12/07/1915
Service No: 2013
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

FRASER, JAMES
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 13/07/1915
Service No: 3030
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

JOLLY, WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 13/07/1915
Service No: 1678
Additional information: Son of Robert and Jane Jolly, of 106, Renfrew St., Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 56.
Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY

Note They only knew this next man as Captain Morton

MORTON, GEORGE
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 13/07/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Captain Morton was second in command of 'A' Company

MITCHELL, GEORGE
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 42
Date of Death: 19/08/1915
Service No: 2360
Additional information: Son of James and Ann Glasgow Mitchell; husband of Elizabeth Mitchell, of 17 Church Place, Garscube Rd., Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: J. 23.
Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

McATOMNEY, JOHN
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 15/08/1915
Service No: 2814
Additional information: Son of Edward McAtomney, of 61, Whitelaw St., Maryhill, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Possibly this man James rather than John

NISBET, JAMES
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 37
Date of Death: 13/07/1915
Service No: 2327
Additional information: Brother of Robert Nisbet, of 44, Hinshaw St., Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

POLLOCK, ROBERT
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 12/08/1915
Service No: 652
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: K. 26.
Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

ROBERTSON, ROBERT
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 38
Date of Death: 12/07/1915
Service No: 371
Additional information: Husband of Elizabeth Robertson, of 3, Clippens Row, Johnstone. Renfrewshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Sjt Robertson was Platoon Serjeant of No. 4 Platoon, 'A' Company

Possibly this man James rather than John

WALLACE, JAMES
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 06/07/1915
Service No: 1366
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Mary Wallace, of 22, Seamore St., Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sp. Mem. C. 388.
Cemetery: TWELVE TREE COPSE CEMETERY

WATSON, THOMAS
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 14/07/1915
Service No: 2129
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Alexander Watson, of 56, West Cumberland St., Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 49.
Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY

WATT, JOHN
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 12/07/1915
Service No: 2992
Additional information: Husband of Agnes Stockley (formerly Watt), of 138, High St., Ayr.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 173 to 177.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From this webpage:

http://www.bigenealogy.com/5thbattalion/operations_12_18_july_1915.htm

Two of the men above are listed:

While this was transpiring word of the loss of the machine-guns had gone back. Captain Morton heard of the incident and decided to make an effort to recover them. Having collected a small party of six or eight volunteers, he climbed out of the trench and worked his way along the open ground beside it, making a slight detour apparently with the intention of rushing the guns from the flank. Dusk was now turning to darkness and those who were in the trench were unable to see what actually happened. The little party evidently came under heavy fire before they were in a position to make the rush. One or two got back unhurt; one (Private Cleugh) mortally wounded, staggered into the trench just in front of the barricade which was being erected, and was brought in only to die; of Captain Morton and the others nothing more was seen. One can only hope that their deaths came quickly and that they were mercifully spared the lingering torture of waiting wounded for succour which could not be rendered. It was a splendid plucky effort, which might well have succeeded, and, though it did not succeed, it at least failed gloriously.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the 1/5th HLI had two companies (A & D) in Methil between August 1914 and May 1915. Within three months of leaving Methil these men were dead.

Fom the same website as above

All ranks have happy memories of the many kindnesses shown there by the good people of Leven and Methil
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
From this webpage:

http://www.bigenealogy.com/5thbattalion/operations_12_18_july_1915.htm

Two of the men above are listed:

While this was transpiring word of the loss of the machine-guns had gone back. Captain Morton heard of the incident and decided to make an effort to recover them. Having collected a small party of six or eight volunteers, he climbed out of the trench and worked his way along the open ground beside it, making a slight detour apparently with the intention of rushing the guns from the flank. Dusk was now turning to darkness and those who were in the trench were unable to see what actually happened. The little party evidently came under heavy fire before they were in a position to make the rush. One or two got back unhurt; one (Private Cleugh) mortally wounded, staggered into the trench just in front of the barricade which was being erected, and was brought in only to die; of Captain Morton and the others nothing more was seen. One can only hope that their deaths came quickly and that they were mercifully spared the lingering torture of waiting wounded for succour which could not be rendered. It was a splendid plucky effort, which might well have succeeded, and, though it did not succeed, it at least failed gloriously.


Excellent find, v. interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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