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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Stranraer Burgh Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 44457

Location: Outside the Sheriff Court on Lewis Street, Stranraer. OS Map Ref: NX 060 606.

The name under other conflicts is not clear from the photos but it reads:
T G HILL

Lovely statue, unfortunately there are no visible foundry or other marks. UKNIWM does not give the sculptor either.













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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have known Colour Sergeant Shingleston as I had been his pay clerk a few years previous to his death but I confess I donít now recall him. He was killed in Northern Ireland and is also commemorated at
http://www.palacebarracksmemorialgarden.org/Kings%20Own%20Scottish%20Borderers.htm

Private Hill died in Korea and is also commemorated at
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bkvaroh/ROH/FilesP/0659.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a lovely statue, I've seen similar but none quite the same.

Have you any idea what the cap badge is meant to represent?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I leave the cap badge for others to judge, but could it be fusiliers?

This is the best I could get from the photos I took - you should be able to zoom it in a bit.

I like the dimple in the chin by the way, nice touch.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DerekR wrote:
It is a lovely statue, I've seen similar but none quite the same.

Have you any idea what the cap badge is meant to represent?


I agree It's a very impressive statue. The badge looks like the Royal Scots Fusiliers.

I thought Stranraer was in KOSB recruiting territory but here's why the statue wears a R.S.F. Tam O'Shanter:

From this http://www.sonsofgalloway.org.uk/5thkosb/territorial.html

5th KOSB

The 5th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers (Territorial Force) was established on 1st April 1908 by the amalgamation of the 3rd (Dumfries) Volunteer Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers and the Galloway (Kirkcudbright and Wigtown) Volunteer Rifle Corps (less 'C' Company, Stranraer, which transferred to the 5th Royal Scots Fusiliers). The battalion was renamed the 5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers (T.F.) in March 1909 and it was under this title that the battalion offered itself for service overseas on the outbreak of the Great War.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Adam,

Glad my web site is proving useful Wink

However, the link you give needs to lose 'website' from in front of the http: to make it work.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stewartry wrote:
Hi Adam,

Glad my web site is proving useful Wink

However, the link you give needs to lose 'website' from in front of the http: to make it work.

Cheers


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reverand Herbert Dunn served as a combatant and was one of 14 Scottish Ministers who died whilst serving as a combatant. 4 of the 14 from Dumfries and Galloway. He is also listed on the Scottish Ministers memorial in St Giles, Edinburgh.

Name: DUNN, HERBERT
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Date of Death: 25/10/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Q. 535.
Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

and from SNWM

Surname DUNN
Firstname Rev H
Service Number
Date Death 25/10/1915
Decoration
Place of birth Glasgow
Other 8th Bn.
SNWM roll THE CAMERONIANS (SCOTTISH RIFLES)
Rank 2nd/Lieut
Theatre of death Unknown
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Flt. Lt. Robert Gordon Reply with quote

Not listed upon this memorial is WW2 casualty Flight Lieutenant Robert Gordon of the R.A.F.

(Glasgow Herald 3rd October 1945)
"Word has been received by Mrs McArthur, 9 Waterfoot Avenue, Pollok, that her brother Flight Lieutenant R. Gordon, son of Hugh Gordon and the late Margaret Porteous, of Stranraer, died while prisoner in Japanese camp, April 1942."

CWGC
Name: GORDON, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flight Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Date of Death: 04/05/1942
Service No: 43329
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 412.
Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

SNWM
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:51 am    Post subject: Dvr. David H. Johnston Reply with quote

WW1
David H. Johnston

(Glasgow Herald 11th of April 1917)
"Killed in action, 28th March, Driver D.H. Johnston, third son of Robert Johnston, contractor, Stranraer."

Name: JOHNSTONE, DAVID
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Army Service Corps
Unit Text: 864th Coy.
Date of Death: 28/03/1917
Service No: T4/214792
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: C. 41.
Cemetery: SARIGOL MILITARY CEMETERY, KRISTON


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:13 pm    Post subject: C/Sgt. Shingleston Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
I would have known Colour Sergeant Shingleston as I had been his pay clerk a few years previous to his death but I confess I donít now recall him. He was killed in Northern Ireland and is also commemorated at
http://www.palacebarracksmemorialgarden.org/Kings%20Own%20Scottish%20Borderers.htm


I spoke with a former Royal Marine in his late 60's today originally from Stranraer.
He told me that there was originally rank details and his M.M. listed on the memorial for him, these were later removed, hence it's odd positioning so far to the right.
It was either to keep Shingleston's entry similar to that of the world wars or for another reason...

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You can just make out the faded marks the removed letters used to have on the memorial in this pic here

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Pte. Edwin Small Reply with quote

WW1
Edwin Small

(Glasgow Herald 10th April 1915)
"Official intimation has been received from the War Office by Mrs Small, St John Street, Stranraer, to the effect that her husband, Private E. Small, Royal Scots Fusiliers, was killed in action on March 14. Previous to the war Private Small was employed at the Great Western Mart, Stranraer."

CWGC
SMALL, EDWIN
Rank: Private
Service No: 4567
Date of Death: 14/03/1915
Age: 35
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 12 and 13.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Gilbert Small, of Mead's Farm, West Hatch, Taunton, Somerset; husband of Rachel Poland McLaren (formerly Small), of 12, Drakemire, Dalry, Ayrshire.

SNWM
Surname: SMALL
Firstname: Edwin
Service Number: 4567
Date Death: 14/03/1915
Place of birth: Stranraer
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Pte. George Kinnear Reply with quote

Not listed on the memorial, or any other i can see.

WW1
SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Pte. George Kinnear

(Glasgow Herald 20th May 1915)
"Private George Kinnear, 2nd Seaforth Highlanders, who belonged to Stranraer, died of wounds on April 25 at Hazebrouck, Belgium. Private Kinnear had served eight years in India, and was a Reservist for the same period. He was a joiner to trade, and was 36 years of age."

CWGC
KINNEAR, G
Rank: Private
Service No: 6868
Date of Death: 25/04/1915
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: Sp. Mem. B. 10.
Cemetery: SEAFORTH CEMETERY, CHEDDAR VILLA

SNWM
Surname: KINNEAR
Firstname: George
Service Number: 6868
Date Death: 25/04/1915
Place of birth: Barony Lanarkshire
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Kinnear is also not listed in Julia MacDonald's book "The faithful, the fallen and the forgotten".

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really nice memorial.

WWll casualty on the right side - Robert Henry Paxton (1904-1944). Sgt. (Flight Engineer) R.A.F.V.R. 550 Squadron (Lancasters) - hit by flak (or night fighter) outbound over Liťge. At the time he was the oldest airman serving in Bomber Command - well above average age at 39 (and he was married).
Born in George Street, Stranraer, Bobby was a house painter to trade. Glider pilot as a hobby 1930's.

If anyone has local Stranraer info (newspaper clipping or photo scan) I'd be much obliged.

SNWM - WW2
Surname PAXTON
Forename Robert Henry
Rank Sgt
Service number 1329560
Decoration
Place of birth Stranraer
Date of death 31 March 1944
Theatre of death RAFVR BC
Cause of death Unknown
SNWM roll ROYAL AIR FORCE and DOMINION AIR FORCES
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to ROYAL AIR FORCE and DOMINION AIR FORCES

CWGC - PAXTON, Robert Henry
Rank: Sergeant. Trade:Flt. Engr.
Service No: 1329560.
Date of Death: 31/03/1944 Age: 39.
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 550 Sqdn.
Grave Reference: 5. B. 17.
Cemetery: HEVERLEE WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Robert Paxton and of Annie Paxton (nee Brooke), of Stranraer, Wigtownshire; husband of Agnes Campbell Paxton, of Stranraer.


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