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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Dalbeattie: St. Peter's RC Church Reply with quote

The memorial is on the front wall of the church in Craignair Street next to the fire station. From Dumfries take the A711 to Dalbeattie. From Castle Douglas take the A745 as far as the traffic lights. Turn left over the bridge.

All the WWI names are also on the Dalbeattie memorial in Colliston park but on there, Hugh Bott has been spelled as Botts and J. Clancey is listed under 'G' as Glancey.

All the WWII names are also on the Dalbeattie memorial and there are no variations in spelling.

The link to the photos is
http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/4756892
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 44397

OS Map Ref: NX 830 613
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst researching the names on the Dalbeattie War Memorial I noticed that a number of the men listed on this memorial were born in the Glasgow area. I've found most of them, as children, on the 1901 census where they are listed as "boarders" and some of them as "orphans from Glasgow. The Archives Centre in Dumfries tell me that many of the school rolls of that time show children from most of the industrial centres of both Scotland and the North of England (Liverpool in particular)
These were children where there were family deaths or other problems and they were essentially taken into care.
The local authority would contract with other areas (often via the Catholic Church) where local families would "foster" the children.
On this memorial Thomas Clark, John Dowds, James Glancey, Francis Lee and Richard Welsh all appear on the 1901 census (often with brothers and/or sisters).
SNWM shows that Michael Dolan was born in Govan and William Monaghan in Barrhead.

Incidentally it looks as though John Dowds served with the Australian Infantry and not the Canadians. I think the mixup came because his next of kin (his sister) was living in Canada but I'm still investigating.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding my previous post, do I remember another post about a memorial in Dumfries with Glasgow Links?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Glasgow memorial in St Joseph's chapel posted here http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=975. The Glasgow memorial is a window without names. There is a named plaque but that turns out to have been a different St Mary's near Ramsgate.

Is this the memorial you were thinking of?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Paul
Yes that's the one - just couldn't remember where I saw it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replacement photos, the originals have gone missing.





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SPR. HUGH BOTT, R.E.
Hugh Bott, Corporal (163332) 12th (Labour) Company, Royal Engineers. Age 38.
Born 1879 at Dalbeattie. Son of George and Agnes Bott. Husband of Rose Bott of Newry, Co. Down.
A former pupil of Dalbeattie Higher Grade Public School.
Accidentally Killed 27 January 1917. Buried in Salonika (Lembet Road) Military Cemetery, Greece.


PTE. THOMAS CLARK, HLI.
Thomas Clark, Private (55120) 2nd Battalion, Highland Light Infantry. Age 33.
Born 1885 at Glasgow. In 1901 living with Mrs. Mary Stewart at Port St. Dalbeattie, age 16 as a "boarder - (as were Frank Lee and Richard Welsh whose entries follow)
Missing in Action 24 March 1918. Remembered on the Arras Memorial, France.


PTE. MICHAEL DOLAN, KOSB.
Michael Dolan, Private (240222) 1/4th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 23.
Born 1895 at Govan, Glasgow. Son of Martin and Mary Dolan of Girvan, Ayrshire.
Missing in Action 19 April 1917. Remembered on the Jerusalem Memorial, Israel.
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PTE. JOHN DOWDS, CANADIANS.
There is no Canadian named Dowds listed by CWGC - Thought to be:
John Dowds, Private (48A) 11th Battalion, Australian Infantry, AIF. Age 21.
Enlisted January 1916 at Casula, New South Wales in the 19th Battalion 3 Division Cyclist Corps. Transferred to 11th Bn. in December 1916 in England. Wounded 8 January 1917 and died of wounds at 36th Casualty Clearing Station, Albert, France. His sister Mary Dowds of Dundas St. London, Ontario, Canada was listed as next-of-kin and brother James was selected to receive his medals.
Born 1895 at Glasgow. Son of John Dowds of Stevenson St. Calton, Glasgow and of the late Mary Ann Burnson Dowds. After his mother's death John was taken, with his sister and brother, into care in April 1899 and boarded out by the Parish of Glasgow. In 1901 John and James were living at 96 Copland St. Dalbeattie as "Boarders".
Died of Wounds 23 January 1917. Buried at Heilly Station Cemetery, Mericourt-L'Abbe, Albert, France.


PTE. JOHN A FORTUNE, LANCS. FUS.
John Alexander Fortune, Private (42464) 1st Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers. Age 21.
Born 1898 at Stair, Ayrshire. Lived with his uncle John Glencross at Alpine St. Dalbeattie.
Died 1 March 1919. Buried at Cologne Southern Cemetery, Germany.


PTE. J GLANCEY, CAMERONS.
James Glancey, Private (14353) 6th Battalion, Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders. Age 24.
Born 1892 at Glasgow. Son of Martin and Jessie Glancey of the Commercial Hotel, Castle Douglas. A Grocer employed at Greenock, he spent many years in Dalbeattie.
Killed in Action 6 May 1916. Buried in Vermelles British Cemetery, France.
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PTE. FRANK LEE, HLI.
Francis Lee, Private (12461) 12th Battalion, Highland Light Infantry. Age 24.
Born 1891 at Maryhill, Glasgow. In 1901 living with Mary Stewart of Port St. Dalbeattie, age 10, and with his sister Catherine and brother James, all as "boarders".
Killed in Action 27 November 1915. Buried in Bethune Town Cemetery, France.


LCPL. GEORGE MANSFIELD, CAMERONS.
George Mansfield, Corporal (8094) 2nd Battalion, Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders. Age 27. Served pre war in China and India. Wounded February 1915.
Born 1888 at Dalbeattie. Son of John William and Mary Jane (Murphy) Mansfield.
Killed in Action (died of wounds?) 23 April 1915. Buried in Larch Wood (Railway Cutting) Cemetery, Ypres, Belgium.


PTE. WILLIAM MONAGHAN, KOSB.
William Monaghan, Private (1626) 1/5th Battalion (Dumfries and Galloway) King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Born ? at Barrhead, Glasgow. A Mrs. Kingstrie of Southwick Rd. Dalbeattie was advised that William was officially Missing.
Missing in Action 12 July 1915. Remembered on the Helles Memorial, Gallipoli, Turkey.


RSM ALEXANDER MUIRHEAD, KOSB.
Alexander Muirhead, Company Sergeant Major (9420) "D" Company, 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 36. Enlisted 1905. Served pre-war in Egypt and India; and at Gallipoli and France. Twice wounded, in July 1916 and in August 1917. Wounded again in April 1918 and died of wounds.
Born 1883 at Dalbeattie. A former pupil of Dalbeattie Higher Grade Public School.
Died of Wounds 17 April 1918. Buried in Arneke British Cemetery, France.


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SGT. WILLIAM McADAM, SEAFORTHS.
William McAdam, Lance Sergeant (10064) 1st Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders. Age 26. Enlisted 1906 serving 6 years in India.
Born 1888 at Dalbeattie. Son of William and Walburga McAdam of Maxwell St. Dalbeattie.
Missing in Action 9 May 1915. Remembered on the Le Touret Memorial, France.


PTE. MATTHEW McGOWAN, KOSB.
Matthew McGowan, Private (8554) 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 23. Enlisted April 1915.
Born 1892 at High St. Kirkcudbright. Son of Thomas and Agnes (Fox) McGowan.
Missing in Action 4 June 1915. Remembered on the Helles Memorial, Gallipoli, Turkey.


LCPL. JAMES McMURTRIE, SEAFORTHS.
James McMurtrie, Lance Corporal (3904) 2nd Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders. Age 24. Enlisted August 1914.
Born 1890 at Dalbeattie. Son of Jessie McMurtrie. Husband of Kathleen Rooney McMurtrie of Glasgow.
Died of Wounds 28 June 1915. Buried in Bailleul Communal Cemetery Extension (Nord) France.
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PTE. RICHARD WELSH, CANADIANS.
Richard Welsh, Private (457361) 7th Company, Canadian Machine Gun Corps. Age 29. Enlisted June 1915 at Montreal. Previously served 4 years with KOSB.
Born 1888 at Glasgow. In 1901 living at Port St. Dalbeattie with brother James as "Boarders" with Mrs. Mary Stewart.
Killed in Action 9 April 1917. Buried in Bois-Carre British Cemetery, Thelus, France.


PTE. GORDON WYKES, RSF.
Gordon Wykes, Private (35130) 1st Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Age 29. Enlisted February 1916.
Born 1888 at Dalbeattie. Son of George and Barbara (Kingstree) Wykes.
Missing in Action 26 September 1917. Remembered on the Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France.
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1939 - 1945.

GNR. FRANK CLARK, RA.
Francis Clark, Gunner (1427010) 3 Battery, 1 Searchlight Regiment, Royal Artillery. Age 24.
Born 1915 at Dalbeattie. Son of Felix and Catherine Clark.
Killed in Action 28 May 1940. Buried in Dunkirk Town Cemetery, France.


PTE. THOMAS McADAM, DLI.
Thomas McAdam, Private (3191189) 2nd Battalion, Durham Light Infantry. Age 24.
Born 1918 at Dalbeattie.
Missing in Action 14 November 1942. Remembered on the Alemein Memorial, Egypt.


CPL. SAMUEL THOMSON, RECI.CPS.
The only Corporal Thomson of the Reconnaissance Corps listed by CWGC and SNWM is:
Thomas Thomson, Corporal (3188899) 52nd Regiment, Reconnaissance Corps, Royal Armoured Corps. Born Kirkcudbrightshire. Age 25.
Killed in Action 19 February 1945. Buried in Milsbeek War Cemetery, Holland.
Thought to be:
Samuel McNairn Thomson - Born 1919 at Dalbeattie.


FLT. SGT. JOSEPH WYKES, RAF.
Joseph Wykes, Sergeant (Air Gunner) (1127228) 75 Squadron, Bomber Command, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Age 22.
Born 1920 at Dalbeattie. Son of Joseph K and Elizabeth (Craig) Wykes. Husband of Florence N (Boyle) Wykes of Welwyn, Hertfordshire.
Killed in Action 13 May 1943 when his Stirling crashed after an engine failure during take-off from Newmarket for a raid on Duisberg. Buried in Dalbeattie Cemetery.
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