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dhubthaigh
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: RATTRAY, BOER WAR MEMORIAL |
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This single memorial to two men is located inside Rattray Parish Church. It is the only memorial in the locality, that I know of, commemorating casualties of the Great Boer War. Peter Butchart's grandson still lives opposite the church itself.
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dhubthaigh
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3030 Pte. Butchart, James (Rattray)
Enlisted 1884. Transferred to Reserve 1892. Re-Enlisted 1899. Died at sea on way to South Africa, Feb. 1900.
9039 Pte. Petrie, Alexander (Rattray)
5th Vol. Batt. Served in South African War with 2nd Vol. Service Coy., 1901-1902 (Queen's Medal, with clasps "Cape Colony, "Orange Free State", "South Africa 1901" and "South Africa 1902". Died at Standerton, Jan. 3 1902. |
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Adam Brown
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Should this be listed under individual or civic?
Were these the only two men from Blairgowrie or were they both from this church?
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Adam |
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dhubthaigh
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| Adam Brown wrote: | Should this be listed under individual or civic?
Were these the only two men from Blairgowrie or were they both from this church?
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Yes, having looked again I do think civic - Erected by Parishioners and Friends. It will definately be Rattray Boer War as Blairgowrie & Rattray were separate parishes/burghs up until the 1930's. There is nothing for the Boer War in Blairgowrie. I've amended this to civic and deleted the individual links. Will be interesting if I can find the unveiling report in the newspaper. |
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kinnethmont
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: War Memorials |
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| Quote: | | Yes, having looked again I do think civic - Erected by Parishioners and Friends. |
I would say it is early days for promoting this as a Civil Memorial, unless the kirk records of all faiths and other local sources have been fully checked out. Is it posible to see a close up of the section of the panel above the text?
I agree, it may be likely that there were only two casualties at Rattray and that both were adherants of the Established Kirk. However, it is also entirely possible there were six casualties, four of whom had no faith, and this panel was hung in Rattray Free Kirk when it was new and moved to the Established Kirk after Unification. As happened on many occasions, due to the fabric of the buildings, it is possible that what was the Free Kirk in 1890 may be the buiding used by the Established Kirk now.
Also possible is that this is the Established Kirk one and and the Free Kirk one is missing or never created.
I am not well familiar with the area but know that Blairgowrie and Rattary are neighbours. A quick check reveals there were apparently two Free Kirks, a Congregational and a United Presbyterian Kirk at Blairgowrie. This could create four different sets of "parishioners and friends " there.
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