The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

spoons · Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: Springholm WW2

UKNIWM 44452

Location in Springholm village hall at OS Map Ref: NX 805 700

Names:
STOKER G K HAINING RN
GUNNER J A GLASS RN
PRIVATE T KENNEDY KOSB
PRIVATE J KERR KOSB

Name: HAINING, GORDON KERR
Initials: G K
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Stoker 2nd Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Drake
Age: 27
Date of Death: 04/11/1940
Service No: D/KX 108945
Additional information: Son of Peter and Blanch Kerr Haining, of Castle Douglas.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: URR CHURCHYARD

The most likely candidate is this man but why RN instead of RA and what is his connection to the area?
Name: GLASS, JOHN ALEXANDER
Initials: J A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Age: 27
Date of Death: 27/03/1941
Service No: 1568180
Additional information: Son of John and Jane G. Glass, of Edinburgh; husband of Margaret M. Glass, of Edinburgh.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave N. 791.
Cemetery: EDINBURGH (COMELY BANK) CEMETERY

Name: KENNEDY, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 30/12/1940
Service No: 3188733
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. 36. Grave 25.
Cemetery: DUMFRIES (ST. MICHAEL'S) CEMETERY

Name: KERR, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 11/06/1944
Service No: 3196119
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Coll. grave 1. C. 1A and 1- 26.
Cemetery: KOHIMA WAR CEMETERY

And Thomas Kennedy’s gravestone in Dumfries

Adam Brown · Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject:

Spoons

The Maritime Royal Artillery was formed during the war where RA gunners served on Merchant ships. Perhaps Gunner Glass served in this regiment and everyone back home classed him as a sailor?

The Lairg memorial has a man listed as Fleet Air Arm but in fact he was an RAF sergeant serving on an aircraft carrier. And I'm sure there was a memorial you posted earlier this year where a soldier was listed as RN because he died at sea.

Alternatively he may have been discharged and is not listed on the CWGC database. You will not find Pte R.A. Goldie Seaforths (listed on the Loth War memorial) on any database. He died in 1940 in hospital in Golspie and was not recorded as serving in any of the armed forces on his death certificate.

Regards

Adam

spoons · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:27 am Post subject:

Interesting, thanks - it all makes sense when it is explained.

\Paul

spoons · Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:43 pm Post subject:

The hall itself is the actual memorial. See http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1859 for details including photo of the original hall (before rebuilding).

This plaque was renovated in 2008 and now looks much better. Apologies for the poor quality and the yellow in this picture, I only had my phone with me.

\Paul

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:01 pm Post subject:

GUNNER J. A. GLASS, R.N.
John Alexander Glass – age 27 – Gunner (1568180) Royal Artillery.
John, of King Street, Castle Douglas, was a commercial traveler when he married in 1938.
Born 1913 at Southwark, London. Son of John and Jane Grace (McConachie) Glass of 7 Torphichen Street, Edinburgh. Husband of Margaret Meek (Pettet) Glass of Edinburgh who he married in St. Andrew, Edinburgh in 1938.
Died on Service on 27 March 1941 and buried in Edinburgh (Comely Bank) Cemetery. [His death was registered at Lichfield, Staffordshire]
Also named on the Urr Parish War Memorial in Haugh of Urr village - as Gunner J.A. GLASS, R.A.

STOKER G. K. HAINING, R.N.
Gordon Kerr Haining – age 27 – Stoker 2nd Class (D/KX 108945) HMS Drake, Royal Navy.
Gordon was killed in the Norton Fitzwarren rail crash where the Paddington to Penzance train was derailed. 27 died, of whom there were 13 Naval personnel.
Born 1913 at Springholm, Urr. Son of Peter and Blanch (Kerr) Haining of Castle Douglas.
Accidentally killed on service on 4 November 1940 and buried in Urr Parish Churchyard.
Also named on the Urr Parish War Memorial in Haugh of Urr village.

PRIVATE T. KENNEDY, K.O.S.B.
Thomas Kennedy – age 21 – Private (3188733) 5th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Thomas was a joiner working at Heathhall and was a member of the Dumfries Territorials. He died of heart failure in the Church of Scotland canteen in High Street, Dunbar.
Born 1920 at Dumfries. Son of Mr & Mrs David Kennedy of Springholm.
Died on Service on 30 December 1940 and buried in Dumfries (St. Michael's) Cemetery.
Also named on the Urr Parish War Memorial in Haugh of Urr village.

PRIVATE J. KERR K.O.S.B.
No other details but thought to be:
John Kerr – age 30 – Private (3196119) 2nd Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Born 1913 at Ayr.
Killed in Action on 11 June 1944 and buried in Kohima War Cemetery, India.
John was killed when the Dakota Transport aircraft on which he was a passenger crashed. It had been carrying army reinforcements to Imphal. The crashed aircraft was located in the Karinganj (Silchar) area in the province of Assam. It was in a paddy field and was fully immersed in water at a depth of 10 feet. All the crew were killed along with the 24 Army personnel on board.
(Source: rafcommands.com)
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Ken