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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Lochgair Reply with quote

Lochgair - Argyll & Bute, Mid-Argyll District

The Lochgair memorial in Mid Argyll, Argyll & Bute. A 20 - 25 foot rustic grey granit cross set on a polished granit pedestal and cairn of local stone.
It stands on a path on the hill opposite the hotel.

The wwi inscription has become worn. The facing panel reads:
THE GREAT WAR 1914 - 1919
THEY DIED FOR FREEDOM AND HONOUR

Vivian Charles Indian Army Lieutenant Colonel
15th Sikhs, Younger of Asknish

Elmslie George E. Indian Army Lieutenant Colonel
25th Cavalry

Campbell Angus A. Royal Scots 13th Royal Scots

Campbell Donald A. Scottish Rifles 5th Scottish Rifles

McEwan John Royal Navy Ordinary Seaman 'Vivid'

McVicar John Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders
7th A&SH

McVicar Peter Durham Light Infantry
35th Durham Light Infantry

The WWII panel is pictured below


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Memorial Transcription Reply with quote

WW2

Alistair Alexander Barr - A.B. Royal Navy, H.M.S. 'Madri'
John Graham - Royal Corps of Signals
Captain John McKellar, Merchant Navy
Captain Aylmer MacIver-Campbell, 2nd Bn. Black Watch
Squadron Leader John Vivian, R.A.F.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the memorial for the parish of Kilmichael Glassary?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP

I'd say it is a memorial within Kirkmichael Glassary Parish but not a memorial which covers the whole parish. It's not unusual for rural parishes to have more than one community and more than one memorial.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this father and two sons?
I'm still trying to work this out but I think Charles "took " the name Vivian when his wife inherited Asknish, or something like that.

Name: VIVIAN, CHARLES AUGUSTUS
Initials: C A
Nationality: Indian
Rank: Brevet Lieut-Colonel
Regiment/Service: 15th Ludhiana Sikhs
Age: 41
Date of Death: 27/04/1915
Awards: Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of the late Col. and Mrs. MacIver Campbell, of Asknish; husband of Mary Hastings Vivian, of Asknish, Lochgair, Argyll. Served in Malakand (1897), and Tirah Expeditions (1897-98).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 1.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL


Name: VIVIAN, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Squadron Leader (Pilot)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 15 Sqdn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 08/08/1941
Service No: 37138
Additional information: Son of Charles Augustus Vivian and of Mary Hastings Vivian (nee Studholme), of Birr, Co. Offaly, Irish Republic.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 4. I. 1.
Cemetery: UDEN WAR CEMETERY

Name: MacIVER-CAMPBELL, AYLMER VIVIAN
Initials: A V
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 21/11/1941
Service No: 44222
Additional information: Son of Brevet Lt.-Col. Charles Augustus Vivian, Indian Army, and Mary Hastings Vivian.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 63.
Memorial: ALAMEIN MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is father and son and adopted son I think. I think it was the father's father who took the name Vivian and he was always known as Vivian. I think MacIver-Campbell was family but I can't work out all the gealogy-speak from this webpage (which doesn't look like it scanned that well) but it will hopefully clear it up for someone who understands it:

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/edward-walford/the-county-families-of-the-united-kingdom-or-royal-manual-of-the-titled-and-un-fla/page-367-the-county-families-of-the-united-kingdom-or-royal-manual-of-the-titled-and-un-fla.shtml

See also here:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I237485&tree=Nixon
VIVIAN, Mr3., of Asknish, Argyllsbire.

Mary Hastings, '2nd dau. of Joseph Studholme, Esq of Ballyeighan, King's Co., who d. 1905, by Mary Hastings, only dau. of the late James Robert Davis Esq., of Bagot Street, Dublin; m. 1906 Majo Charles Augustus Vivian, 15th Ludhiana Sikhs, Indian Armv (voungest son of Col. Aylmer Maelver Campbell, C.B.", J.P. and D.L., late Bengal S.C, who assumed that surname in lieu of Vivian on his wife s. to Asknish 1883 and d. 1915, by Margaret Agnes, who d. 1919, elder dau. and heiress of tin late Col. James Duff Mac Iver-Campbell, of Asknish), who d. (killed in action) 1915, leaving, with other issue, a son, * Aylmer 6. 1909. Mrs. Vivian s her mother-in-law 1919. Asknish, Lochgair R.S.O. Argyllshire.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S/L JOHN VIVIAN, RAF

From lostbombers.co.uk
Stirling N3658 Airborne from RAF Wyton (near Huntingdon). Shot down by a night-fighter and crashed at Overasselt (Gelderland), 8 km SSW of Nijmegen. All are buried in Uden War Cemetery. P/O F.J.Needham KIA S/L J.Vivian KIA Sgt G.W.Jeffrey RCAF KIA Sgt S.H.Broyd KIA Sgt J.T.Corbett KIA F/S R.A.Ross KIA Sgt K.L.Rowley KIA There is a report in 'The Stirling Story' that N3658 was actually shot down by Flak. "

CAPT. AYLMER VIVIAN MACIVER-CAMPBELL, 2nd BLACK WATCH
MIA 21 November 1941 during the breakout from Tobruk. (Operation Crusader)
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