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Arbroath, St Thomas Swimming Club RoH & Memorial WW1

 
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DelBoy



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Arbroath, St Thomas Swimming Club RoH & Memorial WW1 Reply with quote

Unveiled on Saturday Evening the 22nd 1919 at the Public Baths, Marketgate, Arbroath.

It is a roll of Honour and memorial to those of those who served and those who died in service of their country in the Great War
It was situated on the in front of the balcony.
76 members are listed out of a membership of 126, 12 are distinctively marked signifying those that perished.

The Baths were closed in 1984 and the building remodeled into flats. The present location and existence of the memorial are unknown.

Derek.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:23 pm    Post subject: St Thomas swimming club arbroath Reply with quote

Derek
what about a letter to the Arbroath Herald editor on this one ? Was Dave Dinnie ( ex letham headmaster /dominie ) not to do with this swimming club for many years ?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

working backwards, if it was in swimming baths, it won't have been paper, glass or wood and stone might have been too heavy. Bronze would be my choice which means it might have gone for scrap in the remodelling. Will be very pleased to find this is not so.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't mounted in the building, like the alma memorial iwas retained, i had it checked by a resident.

Could have been returned to the Swimming club who are still in existence and use the newer pool?

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number Reply with quote

WMR 76440
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:43 pm    Post subject: st thomas swiming club arbroath Reply with quote

the COURIER AND ADVERTISER 16th Novmeber 2019 :

THe COURIER 100 years ago :
An interesting function preceded the annual Gala of the Arbroath St Thomas Swimming club , when Baillie Wilson , who presided, unveiled a ROLL OF HONOUR containing the names of 76 members who had fought for their Country during the War . 12 of whom made the SUPREME SACRIFICE .
The Chairman stated the Club had enjoyed its most successful sesson and said that he hoped the annual competitions between Forfarshire Clubs would be instituted . The events were witnessed by a large attendance of people .


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject: st thomas swiming club arbroath Reply with quote

This evening i received a commucation from Scott , Arbroath st Thomas Swimming Club head Coach informing me that the ROLL OF HONOUR mentioned above was moved to the ARBROATH SPORTS CENTRE when it was opened in 1986 but then around 10 years ago the it wa taken down and a number of trophies were moved from the centre when it was Renovated by the Council ..
He does not know what happened to the Roll of Honour etc

( yes enquies with angus council start now and see what happened to these items )

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:14 pm    Post subject: st thomas swiming club arbroath Reply with quote

I have heard from Provost of angus , Major R J Proctor, MBE, FSA Scot, informing me that Lesley Hadden, Personal Assstant to Angus Alive HQ Fofar has made enquires and she reports viz

"When the Cafe was renovated into the GYM and STUDIO the trophy Cabinets were emptied and the contents given back to each club that it related to. St Thomas were GIVEN archive boxes of Trophies etc at this time, Nothing was passed to John Johnston (the exhibition officer of angus alive ).


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:54 pm    Post subject: st thomas swiming club arbroath Reply with quote

The Courier - Craigie page friday 17th January 2020:

Roll of Honour #
Last year an item in the archives 100 years recorded an occasion in arbroath when a function preceded the gala of the St Thomas Swimming club , Bailie D T Wilson , who presided , unveiled a roll of honour containing the names of 76 members who had fought for their Country during the War , 12 of whom made the supreme sacrifice " notes Patrick Anderson of Letham
"I have investigated this memorial and found the Courier (nov 17th 1919) and other newspapers covering the story . I discovered that the gala event took place in the Public baths Marketgate in Arbroath. One report said that the roll of honour was beautifully executed by Mr J Buthart and occupied a prominent place in front of the balcony.
I have been in contact with St Thomas Swimming club nad they cant remember seeing the memorial , but heard that the club had events at the baths , town officials sat in the Balcony overlooking the Pool . I have also contacted the Angus Alive Museum , and the Angus Archives and they do not hold this Roll of Honour.
I am wondering if the roll of honour was moved when the baths were cloaed and the club moved its swimming operation to Arbroath High School Sports Centre. Or perhaps it remained in the baths until it was later converted into flats.
Sadly , the newspapers of that period do not record the 12 names who were casualties of the Great War. One reported that the Membership of the club was 120 and that the club had been in existance since 1897.
I remember somf of my former school pals in the town being members of the club as school boys but i was not a member ."
I wonder if any readers might have the information to track down this Memorial "


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