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DUNDEE, ST. PATRICKS WW1 & WW2

 
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ANGUSALAN



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: DUNDEE, ST. PATRICKS WW1 & WW2 Reply with quote

St. Patrick’s RC Church
Arthurstone Terrace
Dundee
DD4 6RT
(T M Cappon, 1897) Impressive red sandstone church with Scots revival style corner tower and belfry, and almost Art Nouveau detailing by Cappon's then assistant W G Lamond (who later worked with W H Langlands on the Dundee schools).

The memorial for the fallen of the parish of St. Patrick’s is the War Memorial Hall adjacent to the church at:

7 Maitland Street
Dundee
DD4 6RR



The hall was built by Mr D.T. Patterson, Soapwork Lane, Dundee while the electric lighting was installed by Messrs. D.J. Macdonald, Electrical Engineers, St. Roque’s Work, Dundee. The building was completed in 1927.




Within the foyer at the entrance to the Memorial Hall, which faces on to Maitland Street, are two brass plaques listing the fallen of the parish in the two World Wars.







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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb pictures of the brass plaques - I know how difficult these are to get a clear picture without reflections.

\Paul
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angusalan

Thanks for a very detailed post and very clear shots of the brass plaques. they are very difficult to photograph normally.

Sister Mary Aldhelm is not listed as a civilian casualty in the Commonwealth War Graves Commission database.

Regards

Adam
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RAF names from the WW2 plaque

Name: HERBERT, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flight Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 281 Sqdn.
Date of Death: 26/04/1944
Service No: 969208
Additional information: Son of George Herbert, and of Annie Herbert, of Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 218.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL


Name: BLACKLAW, EDWARD
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Flt. Engr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 7 Sqdn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 17/01/1942
Service No: 967185
Additional information: Son of Philip and Catherine Blacklaw, of Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. X.B. Grave 668.
Cemetery: DUNDEE EASTERN NECROPOLIS

Name: BURNETT, WILLIAM THOMAS DAVID
Initials: W T D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 205 Sqdn.
Date of Death: 07/12/1941
Service No: 1004210
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 410.
Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL


Name: COONEY, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Air Gnr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 102 Sqdn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 05/03/1945
Service No: 1573835
Additional information: Son of Peter and Margaret Cooney, of Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. B. 9.
Cemetery: PRAGUE WAR CEMETERY

Name: DUFFY, JOHN FRANCIS
Initials: J F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Leading Aircraftman
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 36 Sqdn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 04/12/1942
Service No: 1103600
Additional information: Son of John and Matilda Duffy, of Dundee; husband of Margaret Collins Duffy, of Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 6.
Cemetery: YOKOHAMA CREMATION MEMORIAL

Name: McCAFFERTY, HUGH PATRICK
Initials: H P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 24
Date of Death: 04/01/1945
Service No: 979873
Additional information: Son of Thomas and Mary McCafferty, of Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 275.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

Could not find the next on CWGC but this from SNWM

Surname MAHADY
Firstname Thomas
Service number 1371443
Date of death 14/04/1942
Decoration
Place of birth Forfar
Other
SNWM roll ROYAL AIR FORCE and DOMINION AIR FORCES
Rank A C 1
Theatre of death R.A.F.V.R. B.C.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: George Birnie - Black Watch Reply with quote

George Birnie was my Great Uncle and lived in Crescent Street Dundee. The following is from his CWGC entry

Name: BIRNIE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 14/11/1944
Service No: 2760377
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Birnie, of Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II, C, 8.
Cemetery: CESENA WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WW1

Pte Lawrence Battles
Pte Andrew Berry
Pte Joseph Bridges
Pte John Brown
Pte Joseph Cairns
Pte Patrick Carlin
Pte Charles Carmichael
Pte James Cochrane
Gunner John Colligan
L.Cpl William Cooper
Sgt Robert Craig
Pte John Cully
Pte Hugh Curran
Pte Peter Daw
Pte Francis Devaney
Pte Peter Devaney
Pte Patrick Devine
Pte George Dickson
Pte William Dickson
Pte Thomas Docherty
Pte Peter Dolan
Seaman Thomas Dowds
Pte Matthew Dunn
Pte Peter Fairley
Pte Nicholas Fielding
Pte James Flynn
Sgt William Fox
Gunner Bernard Gillies
Pte William Glover
Pte Edward Gray

Seaman Peter Gray
Pte James Greig
Pte David Heggie
Pte Henry Henderson
Seaman Robert Henderson
Pte Thomas Hennessy
Pte William Hennessy
Pte Thomas Hogan
Pte Matthew Horan
Pte John Hunter
Pte James Johnstone
Pte James Kelly
Pte John Kelly
Pte John Laing
Stoker James Laverty
Pte Joseph Lowram
Pte James Malone
Pte David Mellon
Stoker Joseph Mellon
Cpl John Moroney
Seaman John Mudie
Seaman John Murphy
Pte Patrick Murray
Pte James McCabe
Pte Thomas McCann
Sig Francis McConnachie
Sgt M James McConnachie
Pte Patrick McCormack
Pte Angus McDonald
Sgt Arthur McElthone

Sgt Thomas McEwan
Pte Philip McGovern
Pte William MCGowan
Gunner James McLorinan
Pte William McQueen
Pte William Oates
Pte Thomas O'Brien
Pte Thomas Philipps
Pte George Pitchiford
Pte Peter Rafferty
Pte Joseph Reilly
Pte William Robertson
Pte Andrew Ross
Pte Joseph Scanlan
Gunner Patrick Scanlan
Pte Henry Scullion
Pte James Smith
Pte John Stewart
Pte Patrick Strachan
Pte James Stuart
Pte Michael Sunnie
Seaman James Thorpe
Pte John Thorpe
Sgt M Francis Traynor
Capt Jeremiah Turnbull
Pte William Turnbull
Pte John Williamson
Pte James Wright
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WW2

A/B. A. Banks, R.N.
Pte. J. Bethune, K.O.S.B.
Pte. G. Birnie, B.W.
Lt. R. Birnie, S.A.S.
Sgt. E. Blacklaw, F.A.F.V.R.
A/C.1. W. Burnett, R.A.F.V.R.
Pte. D. Callachan, K.O.S.B.
L/Cpl. D. Cameron, Cameronians
A/B. P. Coleman, R.N.
Sgt. J. Cooney, R.A.F.V.R.
A/B. P. Cussick, R.N.
Tpr. J. De Gernier, Recce Corps
Cpl. J. Dellanzo, R.A.S.C.
Pte. W. Devine, C.M.P.
Pte. J. Don, B.W.
Spr. T. Doyle, R.E.
L.A.C. J. F. Duffy, R.A.F.
Sgt. J. Dunbar, R.E.
Pte. D. Fenwick, B.W.
Pte. P. Findlay McFie, Royal Scots
A/B. D. Gatherum, R.N.
R/Man. J. Grogan, Cameronians
Gunner. A.C. Hannan, R.A.
A/B. J. Hart, R.N.V.R.

Pte. P. Healy, R.A.M.C.
F/Sgt. R. Herbert, R.A.F.V.R.
R/Off. A. Kelly, M.N.
Sgt. H. McCafferty, R.A.F.V.R.
A/B. H. McCaffray, R.N.
Pte. F. McCormack, Q.O.C.H.
Cpl. H. McDonald, B.W.
Grn. J. McGovern, R.A.
W/D.1. P. McGrory, R.A.C.
Sgt. J. McGuinness, K.O.S.B.
A/C.1. T. Mahady, R.A.F.V.R.
Std. J. Malone, R.N.
Cpl. J. Malone, Pioneer Corps
Bosun. D. Robb, M.N.
L/Bdr. T. Reilly, R.A.
Dvr. J. Rose, R.A.S.C.
S/Man. C. Scanlan, U.S.M.N
Pte. J. Scanlan, Royal Scots
L/Cpl. J. Scully, B.W.
Pte. S. Sheach, B.W.
Sgt. R. Sullivan, B.W.
Pte. K. Tosh, Royal Scots
Cpl. G. Tully, Royal Scots

Sister Mary Aldhelm (Annie McMurray) Franciscan missionary of Mary who died in Nov 1943 in a Japanese P.O.W. camp
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is GRN J. McGovern of the R.A. probably supposed to be GNR?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could not find the next on CWGC.....


Thos. Mahady is on CWGC

Name: MAHADY, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 27
Date of Death: 14/04/1942
Service No: 1371443
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: DUNDEE CREMATORIUM


UPDATE
10 Sept 2013

I received the following info from his nephew Paul Mahady in USA

He is my Uncle who died in Halifax plane crash near RAF Marston Moor airfield during April of 1942.
He was the eldest of six Mahady children from Dundee who all served in WWII.
My father, his brother, is Flight Sgt Joseph Mahady, who emigrated to the States after the war and who passed away earlier this year at 91 years of age.
I believe my Uncle was ground crew and three of the ground crew went up in the flight when the Hailfax bomber crashed.
I believe some Halifax planes had rudder locking problems which caused some crashes though this problem was later fixed.

Regards, Paul Mahady
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In Flanders fields.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:35 am    Post subject: Peter Daw GH Reply with quote

Peter Daw Pte S/6651 8th/10th Gordon Highlanders b Dundee e Dundee Age 24 Killed in Action F&F 31/07/1917 Soldiers Effects: Mother: Christina. Newspapers has 112 Cowgate. Soldiers Will 4 pages. Menin Gate Memorial, Ypres M. R. 29 Panel 38 Dundee PJ 08-09-17 Page 3 & page 8 Photo
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the WW2 plaque

SGT. J. McGUINNESS, KOSB.

Named on the Jedburgh War Memorial in Roxburghshire as:

McGUINNESS, JOHN C. SGT. K. O. S. B.
John Clair McGuinness – age 32 – Sergeant (3187619) 4th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers
John lived at 4 Bongate Gardens, Jedburgh and worked for the North British Rayon Company in Jedburgh as an engineering assistant before he and his family moved to 43 Dean Avenue, Dundee. He had been a member of the Territorials and was mobilised in September 1939, spending over five years on active service including the landings on Walcheren Island, at the mouth of the Scheldt. He then fought through into Germany but was killed at Einste near Bremen. John was buried there but was re-interred at Becklingen in October 1946.
Born 1912 in Airdrie, Lanarkshire as John Clair McGinnes. Son of the late Thomas McGuinness (died 1941) and Bridget (Clair) McGuinness of 54 Bankend South, Jedburgh who had married in 1908 in Airdrie as McGinnes.
Husband of Agnes Shepherd (Buick) McGuinness of Craigiebank, Dundee who he married in 1937 in Jedburgh as John Clair McGuinness.
Killed in Action on 9 April 1945 and buried in Becklingen War Cemetery, Germany.
Also named on the North British Rayon Company memorial in Jedburgh and on the City of Dundee Roll of Honour.
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