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geoff501



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: CWGC database search " Normal service is resumed & Reply with quote

Both my search engines now running OK.

CWGC have restored their original site.


For WW1:
http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search14-21.php

Note the log in procedure here *very carefully* and click the link after logging in rather than wait 6 seconds


For WW2:
http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search39-47.php

cheers,

geoff
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DerekR
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to have you back Geoff.
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kinnethmont



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted on CWGC site


CHANGES TO `SEARCH OUR RECORDS`


Following extensive consultation with users of the popular CWGC website, we have made several changes to the “Search Our Records” section , which will make it easier for people to search our database of 1.7m Commonwealth casualties. However, a technical problem has affected these changes, which has required the temporary reinstatement of the previous search tool.

It is our intention to adopt the improved system, once the technical problem has been resolved. As well as providing a more intuitive system, the changes to the records search facility allow for greater security of our database but regular users may wish to note that one of the likely results of the security upgrade is that external websites will be unable to take advantage of the links to individual casualty details which are currently available

We are confident that these changes to the search facility represent a significant improvement on the previous system and that users will find the changes useful.




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I have no problen with the search side of things, if we could have more scope that would certainly be better. The broken links are a major problem, as are the various glitches that this failed launch has uncovered.

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We're very lucky we've got the database at all so as much as we'd like improvements there is no onus on the CWGC to provide them.


Adam this is absolutely the case. CWGC do not carry out casualty research and are not there to help us with ours.
We should be grateful that we are not thumbing through hundreds of Registers as used to be the case.
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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CWGC wrote:
Following extensive consultation with users of the popular CWGC website, we have made several changes to the “Search Our Records” section , which will make it easier for people to search our database of 1.7m Commonwealth casualties


Is it easier to search, it just looks like the same search fields to me.

CWGC wrote:
the changes to the records search facility allow for greater security of our database


Is this a response to Geoff’s much superior search engine? (and a very welcome return for those sites for now by the way)

CWGC wrote:
We are confident that these changes to the search facility represent a significant improvement on the previous system.


Significant improvement – I don’t think so.

CWGC wrote:
and that users will find the changes useful


That’s a big fat no unless you want a pdf copy of the entry!

Not surprisingly they seem determined to push ahead with the ‘improvements’. I don’t wish ill on the CWGC but I just hope it takes them some time to do it.

Adam
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DerekR
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly did "extensive consultation" consist of? Shocked
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David McNay
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a survey on the CWGC site some months ago.

I've made a couple of posts regarding this situation on the SMRG blog.:

http://scottishmilitary.blogspot.com/

I think it makes my opinion of this whole matter perfectly clear.
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Jim



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DerekR wrote:
What exactly did "extensive consultation" consist of? Shocked


Whilst I sometimes (often) dispair of the worth of our elected representatives this might be the occasion to run the situation past your MP.
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geoff501



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Adam Brown"]
CWGC wrote:

Is this a response to Geoff’s much superior search engine? (and a very welcome return for those sites for now by the way)


Probably.


Just to let you know, over 1700 WW1 searches since 15:00 yesterday when I went back on line. I'm having to beat out the flames in the server room Wink
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Kenneth Morrison



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Images of Grave Registration Documents and Gravestone details are not appearing on the CWGC site.
Just got this:

Thank you for contacting us yesterday.

Unfortunately, we are currently experiencing an issue with our archive software. This means that some of our casualty documents are unavailable to view on the CWGC website.

We are working on correcting this issue and hope to resolve it as soon as possible.

I am sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Yours sincerely


Sarah Quinn
UK Enquiries Team Lead
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columba



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for querying it Ken, and for posting the response. I thought they'd changed the website - again!
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