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PERTH, GLOVER INCORPORATION WW1

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: PERTH, GLOVER INCORPORATION WW1 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photo courtesy of Hugh Macrae who will provide a transcription of the names.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergt Cedric Archer AIF
Cpl Peter Blair RE&Tank Corps
Major DC Hamilton Johnson BW
Captain ECR Hamilton Johnson KOSB
Rifleman David M Robertson Rifle Brigade
Stoker James W Robertson RN
LCpl John C Wilson BW
Pte Thomas D Wilson Scottish Rifles
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the AIF Project at https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showPerson?pid=6733

Cedric ARCHER
Regimental number 2557
Place of birth Larvika, Norway
School High School Larvika, Norway

Age on arrival in Australia 20
Religion Church of England
Occupation Stockman
Address Rockhampton, Queensland
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 23
Next of kin Father, James G L Archer, Tolderxodden, Larvik, Norway
Enlistment date 23 July 1915
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 25th Battalion, 6th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/42/2
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Brisbane, Queensland, on board HMAT A48 Seang Bee on 21 October 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll Sergeant
Unit from Nominal Roll 9th Battalion
Fate Killed in Action 2 May 1918
Place of death or wounding Harbonnieres, France
Age at death 26
Age at death from cemetery records 26
Place of burial Heath Cemetery (Plot IV, Row I, Grave No. 11), Harbonnieres, France
Panel number, Roll of Honour, Australian War Memorial 54
Miscellaneous information from cemetery records
Parents: James and Louisa ARCHER, Tolderodden, Larvik, Norway
Other details
Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scottish descent
The Archers who came to Australia had their roots in Scotland. William Archer Sr. (1786-
1869) was a junior partner in his familyís ship-building and timber trade firm in Perth. During
difficult times after the Napoleonic Wars, in 1819 William was sent on a business trip to
Sweden and Norway, two countries from which the Scottish merchants imported timber. The
romantically inclined Archer visited Larvik, south west of Kristiania (Oslo), among other
places, and he fell in love with the small coastal town, according to McDonald. After the
family firm folded in 1824, William lost his livelihood. He had, however, funds to purchase a
schooner, which the family used to migrate to Norway in 1825. The party included William,
his wife Julia (nee Walker) (1791-1880) and their eight children. The family settled at
Tolderodden (now Tollerodden) in Larvik. The children went to school there and rapidly
became as fluent in Norwegian as in English, The older boys were trained in a trade or a
profession back in Perth. In addition, Julia and William increased their family with five new
offsprings after they settled in Larvik.1
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating, Mark!
So Cedric was a born and bred Norwegian who was trained in the glove making trade in Perth before becoming a "jolly" stockman down by a billabong!
I'd never heard of the Incorporations of Perth.
http://madeinperth.org/incorporations-of-perth/
makes for good reading and includes
"The Glover Incorporation of Perth is known to have existed from at least the twelfth century. In 1485 the town council formally ratified the customs of that craft. Glove making in Perth thrived until the late eighteenth century and brought great wealth to the Incorporation, which invested its funds in property in and around Perth: Pomarium, St Leonardís, Curfew Row, Soutarhouses, and Tullylumb included. Today, The Glover Incorporation of Perth still exists as an organisation (charitable) though its role in glove making has long past."
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PETER BLAIR
Corporal
307229 14th Battn Tank Corps
Kia: 9/8/1918
40
Husband of Georgina Watt Blair, 2 Hugh Miller Place,Edinburgh.Enlitsed in RE in 1915.
VIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL Panel 11


DC HAMILTON-JOHNSTON
Captain
2nd Battn Black Watch
Kia: 21/1/1916 at Hanna
BASRA MEMORIAL Panel 25&63

EWEN COLQUHOUN RICHARDSON HAMILTON-JOHNSTON
Lieutenant
2nd Battn KOSB att: 1/4th
Kia: 1/9/1918
22
QUEANT ROAD CEMETERY,BUISSY II.C.29

Both sons of A&Bessie Hamilton-Johnston,17 Basil St,Knightsbridge,London
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JOHN GOODALL WILSON
Lance Corporal
350806
1/6th Battn Black Watch
Kia: 25/9/1918
33
son of Ann Wilson,9 Kinnaird Bank,Craigie,Perth
TOURGEVILLE MILITARY CEMETERY IV.C.6


THOMAS DUNCANSON WILSON
Private
240842
8th Battn Cameronians(Scottish Rifles)
Kia: 19/4/1917
37
son of George&Ann Wilson,Craigie,Perth: husband of Eliza Bell Deans Wilson,17 Greyfriars St,Perth
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas Duncanson Wilson buried in GAZA WAR CEMETERY XVI.D.11
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:06 pm    Post subject: David M Robertson Reply with quote

Probably

D(AVID) M ROBERTSON
Rifleman
5109
1st Battn Rifle Brigade
Kia: 20/12/1914
BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY,NORD G.3

or possibly
David Robertson
Rifleman
S/10159
3rd Battn Rifle Brigade
Kia: 27/3/1916
Ypres(Menin Gate) Memorial Panel 46-48&50
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:53 am    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) report Reply with quote

WMR 80687
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