The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: Church of the Holy Rude, Stirling

This Church holds a quite a variety of Memorials other than those stated on UKWM's site. Unfortunately, they are proving very difficult to photograph - but I'll keep trying!

The following are some of the older ones . . . but I don't know whether any of them 'count.?

OS Map Ref: NS 790 930

The first three are above the plaque to Captain John Aidan Liddell, V.C., M.C. posted in a separate thread under 'Individual Memorials'.

and another . . . (at the opposite side of the church)

DerekR · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

Ann,

Your photographs are much, much better than I could have taken and I see no reason why they shouldn't feature here at all.
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Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear.

spoons · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject:

Although it would not seem to be a common name, there is another memorial posted to a John Blackader (a covenanter) in Dumfries (Troqueer church). 'He died in 1685 "after cruel confinement". Possibly a relative?

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject:

Dear knows how we could find out that info Paul, but you're right, Blackader isn't particularly common.

Derek - do you realise you're just encouraging me (not that I need much!!). Wink

Anyway, on the outside of the church this time, so should maybe in theory be listed as being the Churchyard rather than the Church.

Near this stone lie the remains of Lieut. MARGUS MARR of the Regiment
Who died 4th September 1799 aged ?7
A soldier of undaunted bravery, unaffected modesty and undiminished honour
To whose memory in testimony of their esteem and affection
His Brother Officers have consecrated this monument.
DIGNUM LAUDE VARUM
FAMA VETAT MORI

Anybody any ideas who was in Stirling Castle c1799?

Anybody ever heard the name Margus before? It's certainly a new one on me.

Anne

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject:

Anne

Is it definitely Margus and not Marcus? It's a pity the age and regimental number have faded away.

There's always the Army lists for 1789 / 1799 if anyone has a spare couple of weeks to pour through them!

Adam

apanderson · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject:

Adam, it probably is Marcus - I zoomed in on another photo but it's not really any clearer - the plaque is at quite a height.

Isn't it strange how you can look at something a dozen times and keep seeing the same thing, then when someone points out that it might be something else - it suddenly becomes obvious!

I thought Margus was a weird name! Laughing

What a numpty!

apanderson · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: West Parish Church, Stirling

Memorial located in the Church of the Holy Rude, Stirling.

I haven't been able to find out where West Parish Church is/was in Stirling yet - it may either have been demolished or re-developed.

apanderson · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:42 am Post subject:

Transcription of the West Parish Church Memorial

To the Glory of God and in Memory of the Men of the West Parish Church, Stirling who fell in the Great War 1914 – 1919

James ANDERSON
James BELL
William BELL
David BLAIR
James BLAIR
John BROWNLIE
John BUCHANAN
John CALDER
Alick CALVERT
Thomas CHALMERS
George COUNTER
Richard COUNTER
Malcolm COWAN
William COWIE
William DENOVAN
William DONALD
William H. FERGUSON
William FORD
James FYFE
Archibald GOLDIE
Adam GRAHAM
Robert GRAY
John HARLEY
Alex. HEGGIE
Alex. IRVINE
Andrew LEITCH
Alexander LINDSAY
James LINDSAY
John LORIMER
David LYLE
Donald McKERRELL
James LYLE
William MELVILLE
Thomas MONTEITH
William McALPINE
James McAVOY
Archibald McCALLUM
William McCALLUM
James McCALLUM
Donald MacDONALD
John MacGREGOR
John McGREGOR
Gordon McKAY
William C. PATERSON
Samuel REID
James RICHARDSON
Samuel RENNIE
Thomas A. ROBB
William ROBINSON
William ROURKE
David SMITH
James STENHOUSE
John STENHOUSE
Daniel STEWART
James B. TAYLOR
William G. TAYLOR
Daniel THOMPSON
John WALLACE
James WELLS
John WELLS
Robert WINGATE

Erected by the Congregation Anno Domini 1924

Shieldhall · Joined: 04 Dec 2012 Posts: 2

Holy Rude Church was split in two with a dividing wall. They were known as the East Parish and the West Parish. They united in the 1950's and the wall was removed.

stuartn · Joined: 13 Dec 2016 Posts: 2551

The West Church Plaque is WMR 44726

stuartn · Joined: 13 Dec 2016 Posts: 2551

The West Church Plaque is WMR 44726