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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul

Excellent news. Well done for reaching that milestone.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been wracking my brain to think of all of the memorials in D&G that I believe exist and either we do not have them, or we need photos. So if anyone is looking for something to investigate or to contribute then here you go..........................

Missing memorials and missing photos (roughly West to East)

Mull of Galloway new memorial to air crash – was this erected?

Ardwell church

Leswalt roll of honour (Leswalt village hall)

Glenluce ROH – in Glenluce public hall

Gatehouse, Saunders – in Anwoth (closed) church

Craignaw – F111 crash

Carsphairn – Blue Peter crash

Carsphairn – Blue Peter site of Hunter-Blair (pilot) found

Dunscore parish church – did this memorial ever exist?

Dumfries, new Jane Haining memorial in Dumfries Academy

Devil’s Porridge – new building

Devil’s Porridge - Pipe Major Mackenzie of Annan who died of wounds at Loos

Devil’s Porridge – Animals at war

Lochmaben roll of honour

Gretna – Quintinshill roll of honour

Glenzier school – believed in possession of a member of the family

Lockerbie WW1 Roh (book) – should be inside the parish church but on loan at last visit

Lockerbie Episcopal church – inside the church

Lockerbie, Jardine – in Lockerbie Episcopal church

Johnstonebridge – Hope church parishioners – in care of community council?

Moffat – Warriston School

North of Moffat, John Hunter covenanter memorial

Eskdalemuir roll of honour – in Eskdalemuir church

Ewes roll of honour – in Ewes church

Ewes, Lyall – in Ewes church

Also try the lists of churches and village halls at http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1602 to see if any unchecked buildings contain memorials

I have a few additional bits of info on some of these so drop me a line for more info before you depart on the hunt!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Info received from Gladys Cuttle - the Dunscore ROH (which I know was NOT in the church when I looked for it) was never actually in the church so UKNIWM is wrong. She has seen it and it was in private hands. Just trying to confirm its current location and locate a photo.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The former church at Wanlockhead closed over 30 years ago and there were "some plaques" inside the church. These were removed in 2008 we think and have been placed in the mining museum's store (not on display). It is not known if any have military connections but I have some contact details and hope to make arrangements to visit during the summer to inspect and photograph them. There is also a stained glass window in the former (semi-derelict) church. This is protected by a Grade B listing but is not a war memorial.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keir Parish is known to have had a WW1 ROH with 80 names http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5172 - whereabouts not known

Penpont is known to have had a WW1 ROH listing 150 men and 2 women - whereabouts not known

Tynron is known to have had a WW1 ROH with 32 names - whereabouts not known

There was also a parish ROH for Morton (Thornhill) - no numbers and whereabouts not known

all info from Gladys Cuttle (Teddy)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two new memorials to Jane Haining

As Ken Morrison has already posted on threads to Jane Haining's other memorials, a new plaque to her is to be placed in Dunscore church as part of a national initiative.

Meanwhile, students at Dumfries Academy (her former school) will be unveiling a new memorial to her later this month. The format of the memorial has not been announced but it will not be "just a brass plaque or something". The artist is Andrew Adair. A quick check on Google tells me he is a ceramic artist and I know the school raised £1500 for the memorial so I look forward to seeing it.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buittle church closed some years ago and was then sold. Planning permission was given to turn it into a private house. The building contains several memorials including a large stained glass window by Douglas Strachan.

Today's Galloway News reports that planning permission has been withdrawn. I am not trying to find any further information.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:27 pm    Post subject: Louis McGuffie, Victoria Cross Memorial Reply with quote

http://www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/news/local-headlines/archway-fit-for-a-hero-1-4261472
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject: Robert MacKenzie, Pipe Major KOSB Aged 59! Reply with quote

I ran across this article today:

D&G Standard 9/9/1916 p.2
MEMORIAL TO ANNAN SOLDIER
An oval bronze memorial to the late Pipe- Major Mackenzie, attendance officer of Annan School Board, has been erected in the hall of Annan Public School. The cost has been defrayed principally the children attending the school, assisted by the children of the Academy, Breconbeds, and St Columba’s, while the remainder has been contributed by the staffs of all the schools, the members of the Board, a few friends, and some former scholars. This is recorded on a small brass plate, mounted on an oak base, beneath the memorial, and on the memorial itself is the following inscription “In memory of Pipe-Major Robert Mackenzie, 6th K.O.S.B., who, after eighteen years faithful service as attendance officer of Annan School Board, died the age of fifty-nine, from wounds received on September 25th, 1915, at Loos, France.” The inscription is surrounded a wreath of laurel and oak with intertwined ribbons, the continuity of the border being broken at the top by the regimental arms the K.O.S.B., and at the bottom by the Annan burgh arms, and the wreath !s the emblem of victory, not of mourning.
This was Robert MacKenzie – age 59 – Pipe-Major (14851) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers who died in a military hospital at Etaples in France on 8 October 1915.

I am making enquiries abou the possible whereabouts of this memorial.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pal on the Great War Forum has sent me this extract from:

'Floo'ers O' The Forest - Fallen Pipers of The Great War'

Born at Grantown-on-Spey about 1856.Enlisted in the 78th Highlanders (no,337) in November, 1874 and was appointed Piper in November, 1876. Purchased his discharge in October,1878 and re-enlisted in The King's Own Scottish Borderers (no.276I) in July of the following year. Appointed Pipe-Major and served with the 2nd Battalion in the action at Gemaizah in 1888. Awarded the medal for Long Service and Good Conduct and retired to pension in October, 1896. Employed 16 years as Truant Officer for the Annan School Board, Dumfriesshire where he had resided at Ednam Street. Volunteered for service in the Great War. Went to France as Pipe-Major of the 6th (Service) Battalion The King's Own Scottish Borderers, in the 9th (Scottish) Division. Mentioned in Field-Marshall French's despatch of 30th November, 1915 for his gallantry at Loos (‘London Gazette’ 29422, 1st January, 1916). He had been gassed and wounded on the 25th September while playing the Battalion over the parapet when shot in both legs. Though he managed to crawl back to his own lines, his leg had to be amputated and he died of shock shortly afterward. "He was the finest and grandest old man in the Regiment, and we were justly proud of him." Died of his wounds on the 8th October,1915 "having well deserved the V.C." Because of his age, about 59,he had been offered the position of Battalion postman, but insisted on staying with his Company. Survived by his wife, Mrs. Jane MacKenzie of 40 Cliff Street, Yonkers, New York. Buried in the Etables Military Cemetery,France;Plot III,Row C,Grave 9A.(Photograph in ‘The K.O.S.B.in the Great War’)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Morley wrote:
On the BBC Scotland news yesterday evening there was mention of a new memorial being erected at the Mull of Galloway. Can't see anything posted on the website yet.

Update: further investigation shows that the new Mull of Galloway Trust want to erect a memorial to commemorate the cras of a Beaufighter which crashed in June 1944 while in transit from Weston super Mare to Lossiemouth when it crashed in thick fog. Casualties were:

Name: STANIFORD, ROYSTON EDWARD
Initials: RE
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Senior Flight Engineer
Regiment/Service: Air Transport Auxilliary
Date of Death: 8 June 1944
Grave reference: Column 3
Cemetery: Glasgow Crematorium

Name: ECHALLIER, CLAUDIUS
Initials: C
Nationality: French
Rank: First Officer
Regiment/Service: Air Transport Auxilliary
Date of Death: 8 June 1944
Grave Reference: 29. D. 16
Cemetery: Brookwood Military Cemetery

Apparently Echallier was one of only 5 French nationals serving with the Air Transport Auxilliary.


If nobody else has already photographed this one, here it is. A couple of slightly different views of the boundary wall.










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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting these photos, Berenice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, Ken. Shall I post them in the D&G section, and if so where?

This is the building that the Beaufighter struck before going into the sea.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Berenice.
I'd suggest posting them in the D&G "Other Memorials" section.
That's where the memorial to the Beaufighter crash at Dundrennan can be found.
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5705

So I think that would be the most appropriate place.
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