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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Ardross Estate Reply with quote

Ross-Shire Journal Friday 26th May 1922

The memory of the men who went to War from the Ardross Estate and who never returned has been fittingly and appropriately commemorated in the beautiful church at Ardross by the placing of a handsome and ornate tablet, which was unveiled by General Sir Walter C Ross of Cromarty, KBE, CB.
Colonel Cuthbert called the Roll of the Dead which contained twenty seven names.

Seaman John MacKay, RNR
Gnr James F Minty, RFA
Pte John MacDonald, RSF
L/Cpl Malcolm MacLean RSF
Sgt David MacLeod, HLI
Cpl John M Munro, 2nd Seaforth
L/Cpl George Munro, 2nd Seaforth
Sgt Neil Kennedy, 4th Seaforth
L/Cpl James Beale, 4th Seaforth
Pte Peter Robertson, 4th Seaforth
Pte Colin Bain, 4th Seaforth
Pte Colin MacKiller, 4th Seaforth
Pte Thomas MacLeod, 4th Seaforth
L/Cpl Hugh Ross, 4th Seaforth
Pte Don Henderson, 5th Seaforth
Pte David C MacDonald, 5th Seaforth
Pte Thomas J Fergurson, 5th Seaforth
Pte James MacKenzie, 6th Seaforth
Pte W MacBean, 7th Seaforth
Pte Donald McGhee, 5th Gordons
Pte Alex R M Stevenson, 5th Gordons
Pte John Campbell, Canadians
Pte John Hill, Canadians
Pte George Morrison, Australians
Pte Donald Stewart, New Zealand
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ardross Church is still in use twice a month as part of Rosskeen Parish, Alness.

Checking the nearby Alness War Memorial the following men from Ardross are listed on it.

Cpl John M Munro, 2nd Seaforth
Gnr James F Minty, RFA
L/Cpl George Munro, 2nd Seaforth
L/Cpl Hugh Ross, 4th Seaforth
L/Cpl James Beale, 4th Seaforth
Pte Alex R M Stevenson, 5th Gordons
Pte Colin Bain, 4th Seaforth
Pte David C MacDonald, 5th Seaforth
Pte Don Henderson, 5th Seaforth
Pte Donald McGhee, 5th Gordons
Pte Donald Stewart, New Zealand
Pte George Morrison, Australians
Pte James MacKenzie, 6th Seaforth
Pte John MacDonald, RSF
Pte Peter Robertson, 4th Seaforth
Pte Thomas J Fergurson, 5th Seaforth
Pte Thomas MacLeod, 4th Seaforth
Pte W MacBean, 7th Seaforth
Sgt David MacLeod, HLI
Sgt Neil Kennedy, 4th Seaforth

As far as I can see these five are not.

L/Cpl Malcolm MacLean RSF
Pte Colin MacKiller, 4th Seaforth
Pte John Campbell, Canadians
Pte John Hill, Canadians
Seaman John MacKay, RNR

I can find no record of anyone with this name in SNWM or CWGC:

Pte Colin MacKiller, 4th Seaforth

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
I can find no record of anyone with this name in SNWM or CWGC:

Pte Colin MacKiller, 4th Seaforth


Not the 4th, but does this look a likely candidate?

CWGC
    Name: McKELLAR
    Initials: C
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Private
    Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
    Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
    Date of Death: 16/12/1916
    Service No: 6488
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 6.
    Cemetery: OVILLERS MILITARY CEMETERY

or SNWM:
    Surname McKELLAR
    Firstname Colin
    Service Number 6488
    Date Death 16/12/1916
    Decoration
    Place of birth
    Other 5th Bn.
    SNWM roll THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
    Rank Pte
    Theatre of death F.& F.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ADP. I'd tried McKeller but not McKellar. That may well be him. The 4th and 5th Seaforths were in the same brigade in 51st Highland Division and I think there was quite a lot of movement between them.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP wrote:
Adam Brown wrote:
I can find no record of anyone with this name in SNWM or CWGC:

Pte Colin MacKiller, 4th Seaforth


Not the 4th, but does this look a likely candidate?

CWGC
    Name: McKELLAR
    Initials: C
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Private
    Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
    Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
    Date of Death: 16/12/1916
    Service No: 6488
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 6.
    Cemetery: OVILLERS MILITARY CEMETERY

or SNWM:
    Surname McKELLAR
    Firstname Colin
    Service Number 6488
    Date Death 16/12/1916
    Decoration
    Place of birth
    Other 5th Bn.
    SNWM roll THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
    Rank Pte
    Theatre of death F.& F.

ADP


http://www.ross-shirejournal.co.uk/News/Ardross-unknown-soldiers-group-seek-help-in-Great-War-tribute-bid-01082013.htm

The local community are trying to research the names on this memorial, here's the ones that are giving them bother, maybe they should look here!

We are still using the memorial itself as our starting point but are becoming aware of some discrepancies in spelling and numbering. So far we have no information at all on seaman John MacKay, Royal Naval Reserve; Private Roderick Matheson of the 2nd Battallion Seaforth Highlanders or Private Colin MacKellar of the 4th Battallion Seaforth Highlanders.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roderick Matheson looks like one of these two - the only 2nd Bn men on SNWM

Surname MATHESON
Firstname Roderick
Service Number 3/7611
Date Death 25/04/1915
Decoration
Place of birth Knockbain
Other 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Surname MATHESON
Firstname Roderick
Service Number 676
Date Death 26/10/1914
Decoration
Place of birth Elgin
Other 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Rank Drummer
Theatre of death F.& F.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knockbain is in Easter Ross, like Ardross but not near enough to be an indication that 3/7611 is the Rod Matheson on the memorial. The Elgin born man may be in the Moray Roll of Honour.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

June Munro has kindly let me know that there will be an exhibition in Ardross Hall in early August to coincide with the First World War centenary, to commemorate the men on the memorial in Ardross Church. It will contain photographs, medals, uniforms and other material.

It will run on August 2nd from 10am to 4pm and on Sunday 3rd 10am to 3.30pm when it will close with a Drumhead Service conducted by the Rev.Rob Jones.

Ardross Pipe Band will play at intervals throughout the weekend.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:18 pm    Post subject: Alex R Stevenson 5th GH Reply with quote

Alex R Stevenson Private S/30445 5th Gordon Highlanders Age 19 Died Ross and Cromarty, United Kingdom 16/04/1919 Rosskeen Parish Churchyards Extensions C. 287. Alness & Ardross Estate
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Donald McLeod McGhee 5th GH Reply with quote

Donald McLeod McGhee Pte S/22251 5th Gordon Highlanders b Glasgow 07/05/1899 e Nairn Age 18 Killed in Action F&F 28/07/1918 Son of Daniel McGhee, of 23, Webster St., Bridgeton, Glasgow. Mother Ann McLeod. 1901 Census: Father's Occ: Car Driver. C Coy. Soldiers Effects: Father: Daniel. Soissons Memorial M. R. 18 Alness & Ardross Estate
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR report 75898.

There is a photo & transcript of the memorial here (note that the memorial gives service numbers as well which should assist research).

For ease of use this names list is copied below

http://www.rossandcromartyheritage.org/communit/p37/ht/rs/war%20memorials/War_memorials/ardross_wm/a03_wm02.html

Note also that the newspaper report states there are 27 names, but only lists 25 names, and there are only actually 24!!

Left Hand Side

Royal Naval Reserve
Seaman
John Mackay


Royal Field Artillery
278811 Gunner
James F. Minty
36th Battery

Royal Scots Fusiliers
40569 Private
John Macdonald
2nd Battalion
40019 L/Cpl
Malcolm Maclean
12th Battalion

Highland Light Infantry
27705 Sgt
David Macleod
16th Battalion

Seaforth Highlanders
S 40234 Cpl
John M. Munro
2nd Battalion
201919 L/Cpl
George Munro
2nd Battalion
7611 Private
Roderick Matheson
2nd Battalion
1900 Sgt
Neil Kennedy
4th Battalion
1734 L/Cpl
James Beale
4th Battalion
202011 Private
Peter Robertson
4th Battalion

Right Hand Side

Seaforth Highlanders
1393 Private
Colin Bain
4th Battalion
6488 Private
Colin Mackellar
4th Battalion
1735 Private
Thomas Macleod
4th Battalion
1810 L/Cpl
Hugh Ross
4th Battalion
1862 Private
Hugh Ross
4th Battalion
6608 Private
Donald Henderson
5th Battalion
242186 Private
Thomas J. Ferguson
5th Battalion
266320 Private
James Mackenzie
6th Battalion
40395 Private
William Macbean
7th Battalion

Gordon Highlanders
22251 Private
Donald Macghee
5th Battalion
30445 Private
Alexander R M Stevenson
5th Battalion

Australian Imperial Force
1389 Private
George Morrison
14th Battalion

New Zealand Expeditionary Force
8/1032 Private
Donald Stewart
1st Ost Battalion[/url]
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Private
STEWART, DONALD
Service Number 8/1032
Died 28/10/1916
Aged 23
1st Bn.
Otago Regiment, N.Z.E.F.
Son of Kenneth and Margaret Stewart, of Ardross, Alness, Ross-shire, Scotland.


Private
MORRISON, GEORGE
Service Number 1389
Died 08/08/1915
Aged 26
14th Bn.
Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
Son of George and Catherine Morrison, of Culcairn, Invergordon, Scotland. Native of Ross-shire. (Born Rosebank - AIF Project)
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