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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Gelston Primary School Roll of Honour Reply with quote

Not listed on UKNIWM

OS Map Ref NX 766 586

Located in Gelston Primary School, Gelston nr Castle Douglas

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The man lost whilst serving with US forces has already been identified on the Gelston War Memorial thread. This Roll adds that he was 'killed'.

John Dalrymple
Private First Class, U.S. Army
363rd Infantry Regiment, 91st Division
Entered the Service from: Washington
Died: September 28, 1918
Buried at: Plot H Row 33 Grave 24
Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery
Romagne, France

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Gelston War Memorial Pte William Gordon is listed as Ayrshire Yeomanry. On SNWM is this man

GORDON, William
Service Number 2138
Date Death 27/11/1917
Decoration
Place of birth Kelton
Other latterly 50447 Machine Gun Corps (Infantry).
SNWM roll AYRSHIRE YEOMANRY
Rank Pte
Theatre of death Palestine.

Here is the CWGC details where he is listed as MGC. No mention of Camel Corps though. The Ayrshire Yeomanry were in Egypt when the British contingent of the camel corps was formed from Yeomanry units.

GORDON, WILLIAM MCADAM
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Unit Text: 256th Coy.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 27/11/1917
Service No: 50447
Additional information: Son of William and Agnes Gordon, of Castle Hill, Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 18.
Cemetery: RAMLEH WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first man on the list

BONE, QUINTIN
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)
Unit Text: Adjt. 9th Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 19/09/1918
Awards: M C
Additional information: Son of Robert and Jessie Bone, of Halmyre, Castle Douglas. Native of Perth.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: F. 1252.
Cemetery: KARASOULI MILITARY CEMETERY, GREECE
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: GRIERSON, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 10/11/1916
Service No: 24156
Additional information: Son of A. Grierson, of Breoch Cottage, Castle-Douglas, and the late James Grierson.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: C. 112.
Cemetery: CASTLE DOUGLAS CEMETERY, KELTON
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JOSEPH GRIERSON - died of meningitis at City Hospital, Edinburgh.
He enlisted in April 1916 and was still in training when taken ill.
He is listed on the Buittle WW1 Memorial - his birthplace.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WILLIAM McADAM GORDON - re the comments above.

Can't make a Camel Corps connection either, but the Ayrshire Yeomanry (as far as I can work out) fought as dismounted troops attached to the 52nd (Lowland) Div. at Gallipoli from October 1915 and then in Egypt (as part of the 1st Dismounted Brigade) until late June 1916.
In January 1917 they and the Lanark Yeomary were amalgamated as the 12th Battalion (Ayr and Lanark Yeomanry) Royal Scots Fusiliers and placed in the 229th Brigade, 74th Division.

The Camel Brigade were in the Ramleh area in November 1917 (when Gordon was killed) but so was the 156th Brigade, 52nd Div. with the 156th Company MGC - and I can find no record of a 256 Co. MGC

So what unit did William Gordon serve with - I'm still not sure!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ken. Still no Camel Corps connection but could CWGC be wrong and instead of 256 Coy it should be 156 Coy?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The entry for WILLIAM McADAM GORDON in the Stewartry Roll of Honour
"Enlisted 30th November 1914 1st Battalion Ayrshire Yeomanry. Transferred to Machine Gun Coy., Imperial Camel Corps. Served on Eastern Front (Gallipoli, Egypt and Palestine). Killed near Jaffa 27th November 1917."

I wonder if 256 Coy MGC did exist, although not listed on 1914-1918.net (The Long, long Trail)? but then why does CWGC show it as MGC (Infantry)?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: WILLIAM GORDON - MGC/CAMEL CORPS Reply with quote

Info from Steve Bekker on the Great War Forum

William Gordon was with the 26th Machine Gun Squadron, 2nd Battalion, Imperial Camel Corps. Also know as 256th Coy. MGC.

The 1st & 3rd Battalions were Australian, the 4th Anzacs and the 2nd British.

Details of the action:
At Corps headquarters the loss of Bald Hill caused considerable alarm and much finger pointing at the Camel Brigade and forced General Chaytor to order its immediate recapture, this was in part due to the problems on the right flank with the 1/4th Northamptonshire Battalion at Wilhelma and Yehudiyeh who were under heavy pressure from the 48th and 125th Turkish regiments (16th Division) which due to the withdrawal of the Camel Brigade on their left, were in danger of being overrun. General Smith was insistent that as a matter of honour an attack is put in before dark by Lieutenant Colonel Lee and the 4th Battalion was ordered to recover the ground abandoned during the day.

Lieutenant Colonel Lee quickly began to organize this counterattack, to carry out his plan he had only the well-used 16th company, still they were familiar with the objective and was more then willing to regain their former posts, also the attacking force would have two sections each from the 17th and 18th company and a section from the newly arrived 7th company to carry out the attack while the remainder of the battalion was needed to occupy the defences. The 2nd Battalion had been released from the Anzac Mounted Division reserve at 10 am and ordered to move from Selmeh to the Camel Brigade’s exposed right flank to cover the area south from Yafa Hill and Wilhelma this allowed the 4th Battalion to concentrate for their counterattack. The 10th company relieved the single section of the 17th company at post 1 on Point 249 at 3 pm while the 7th company moved to support the 4th Battalion as the remainder of the 2nd Battalion dug support and reserve lines, the brigade machine gun squadron was committed to support the battalion, and Private William Gordon was killed by shell fire. By 7.30 pm patrols had reported the Turkish positions around the objectives and the attack went in at 8 pm in darkness.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent update Ken. Even more units listed which could have confused matters even more!

Luckily a detailed answer from Steve has clarified his unit and manner of death.

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BONE, QUINTIN. Capt. & Adj. (MC) King's Royal Lancs. Killed.
Quintin Bone (Military Cross) Captain and Adjutant: 9th Battalion, King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment) Age 23.
Born 1894 at Perth. Son of Robert John Bone and Jessie (Craigie) Bone of Halmyre, Gelston. Enlisted September 1914 in Cameron Highlanders. Promoted from the ranks and commissioned in 9th King's Own. Served on Western Front and Salonica. Killed in Action 19 September 1918 in the attack on Pip Ridge, Lake Doiran. Macedonia. Buried in Karasouli Military Cemetery, Greece.


DALRYMPLE, JOHN. Private. Americans. Killed.
John Dalrymple, Private First Class: 363rd Infantry Regiment, 91st Division, U.S. Army. Age 25.
Born 1893 at High Lodge, Gelston Castle. Son of William and Johnanna (Thomson) Dalrymple. Enlisted June 1917 in the town of The Dalles, Wasco County, Oregon. Killed in Action 28 September 1918. Buried in Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery, Romagne, France.


GORDON, WILLIAM. Private. Imperial Camel Corps.
William McAdam Gordon, Private (50447) 256th Company, Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) Age 21.
Born 1895 at Craigley, Gelston. Son of William and Agnes (Garvie) Gordon of Castle Hill, Castle Douglas. Enlisted November 1914, Private (2138) in 1/1st Ayrshire Yeomanry. Transferred to the 26th Machine Gun Squadron (256th Co. MGC) of the 2nd Battalion, Imperial Camel Corps. Served at Gallipoli, Egypt and Palestine. Killed in action 27 November 1917 at the Battle of Bald Hill near Jaffa. Buried in Ramleh War Cemetery, Israel.


GRIERSON, JOSEPH. Private. R.S. Died on Service.
Joseph Grierson, Private (24156) 3rd Battalion, Royal Scots. Age 21.
Born 1895 at Buittle, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of James and Agnes (Glover) Grierson of Breoch Cottage, Gelston. Enlisted April 1916 but died while in training. Died 10 November 1916, of meningitis at the City Hospital, Edinburgh. Buried in Castle Douglas, Kelton Cemetery (CWG) Also remembered on the Buittle WW1 War Memorial.


LITTLE, NEIL. Private. Lanarkshire Yeomanry. Died.
Neil Little, Private (30963) 6th Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. Age 26
Born 1892 at Low Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Agnes Little. Living, in 1901 - age 9, with his grandparents at Greenlane, Gelston. Enlisted December 1914 in the Lanarkshire Yeomanry. Transferred as Private (28283) to 11th Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) and then to 6th RIF. Posted to Salonika in September 1916 but in December was admitted to the 43rd General Hospital with Hodgkins disease. Moved to hospitals in Malta and then Stockport before being admitted to Manchester Royal Infirmary. After treatment there he was discharged from the army on 7 September 1917. Died 25 July 1918 of Pulminary TB at home at Greenlane.


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LINDSAY, HAMILTON. Private. Gordons. Prisoner (Died).
Hamilton Stewart Lindsay, Private (260130) 1/5th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders. Age 27.
Born 1891 at Airieland, Gelston. Son of John and Jessie (Stewart) Lindsay; husband of Margaret Saunders Lindsay of Gelston Village, who he married in 1913 at Buittle. Wounded and taken prisoner in April 1918. Died 4 November 1918 as a POW. Buried in Poznan Old Garrison Cemetery, Poland.


McVEE, JAMES. Private. KOSB. Killed.
James Hepburn McVee, Private (1821) 1/5th King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 21.
Born 1896 at Gelston Village. Son of James and Mary McVee. Enlisted August 1914. Served at Dardanelles. Died of wounds 12 July 1915. Buried in Alexandria (Chatby) Military and War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.


McWILLIAM, JAMES. Private. KOSB. Killed.
James McWilliam, Private (240382) 1/5th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Formerly Private (1661) 1/5th KOSB. Age 30.
Born 1888 at Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of John and Elizabeth (McGuffog) McWilliam of Gelston. Enlisted August 1914. Served at Gallipoli, Egypt, Palestine and France. Missing in action 29 July 1918. Remembered on the Soissons Memorial, France.

and his brother

McWILLIAM, ADAM. Private. KOSB. Killed.
Adam McWilliam, Corporal (10604) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 26.
Born 1891 at King Street, Castle Douglas. Son of John and Elizabeth (McGuffog) McWilliam of Gelston. Enlisted December 1909 in 1st KOSB. Transferred to 6th KOSB. Served at Mons, Somme, Arras, Ypres and Gallipoli. Wounded at Gallipoli, Somme and Arras. Missing in action 13 October 1917. Remembered on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.


RITCHIE, JOHN. Corpl. Canadians. Killed.
John Henry Ritchie, Lance Corporal (850139) 19th Battalion, Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment) Age 21.
Born 1894 at Corra Cottages, Buittle, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of John and Janet (McDill) Ritchie of Gelston. Enlisted March 1916 at Niagara Falls. Wounded near Vimy Ridge. Died of wounds 22 July 1917. Buried in Aix-Noulette Communal Cemetery Extension, France.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR (ex UKNIWM) report 71865
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject: Hamilton Lindsay update newspapers info Reply with quote

Hamilton Stewart Lindsay Pte 260130 5th Gordon Highlanders b Kelton, K'cudbright e Castle Douglas Age 27 Died as PoW Germany 04/11/1918 Son of John & Jessie (nee Stewart) Lindsay. 1901 Census: Airieland Cottage. Fa Occ: Ploughman. Husband of Mrs Margaret (nee Dickson) Lindsay, Gelston. Married 1913 Buittle. Soldiers Effects: Wid: Margaret. Poznan Old Garrison Cemetery, Poland Poland Plot I Row C Grave 11 Dumfries and Galloway Standard 25-05-18 P3: Wounded & PoW Gelston School RoH & Kelton Parish Church
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