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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: ELIE & EARLSFERRY Reply with quote

Elie - Fife

The Elie war memorial is in the form of a roadside shrine of classical design which is set into the corner of the kirkyard wall. The shrine is flanked on either side by walls incorporating benches and ballustrades and which are terminated by tall classical pillars.
The commemoration and names of the WWI dead are listed on freestone tablets set into the face of the shrine. The WWII dead are listed on two bronze plaques set on the faces of the two flanking walls.
The memorial stands at the junction of Park Place and Main Street.
Sorry about the terrible quality of the photograph but I'll use it for now until a better one is available.





One very unusual and interesting feature of this memorial is its listing of the occupations of the WWI casualties.
WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
ADAMS ORD. ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY LIEUTENANT OF MUIRCAMBUS
AFFLECK WILLIAM G. CANADIANS SERGEANT MAJOR 2ND C.E.F. BANK ACCOUNTANT
AITKEN ANDREW ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE 10TH ARGYLLS BANK CLERK
AITKEN CHARLES AUSTRALIANS LANCE CORPORAL 21ST A.I.F. FARMER
ANDERSON JAMES M. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE 6TH BLACK WATCH GOLF PROFESSIONAL
ANSTRUTHER JOHN CARABINEERS CAPTAIN OF CHARLETON
CATTANACH JAMES ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS PRIVATE MILITARY TRANSPORT CHAUFFEUR
CROWLEY ALFRED B. ROYAL NAVY ABLE SEAMAN R.N.V.R.
DUNSIRE JOHN H. ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE 13TH ROYAL SCOTS CHAUFFEUR
DUNSIRE ANDREW GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE 1ST GORDONS CLUBMAKER
GORDON ARCHIBALD CAMERONIANS PRIVATE 9TH CAMERONIANS GARDENER
GORDON THOMAS AUSTRALIANS LIEUTENANT MILITARY MEDAL 56TH A.I.F. GROCER
GUTHRIE DAVID BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL 9TH BLACK WATCH PLOUGHMAN
HASTINGS EDWARD BLACK WATCH PRIVATE 9TH BLACK WATCH JOINER
LAMB THOMAS ROYAL NAVY ABLE SEAMAN H.M.S. VICTORY BAKER
LOWSON DAVID EAST LANCS PRIVATE ?EAST LANCS CHAUFFEUR
LOWSON JAMES BLACK WATCH PRIVATE 7TH BLACK WATCH POSTMAN
DONAGHY JOHN BLACK WATCH PRIVATE 7TH BLACK WATCH ENGINEER
MONTEITH WILLIAM N. RIFLE BRIGADE LIEUTENANT 6TH RIFLE BRIGADE REVEREND
MACGREGOR JAMES BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL MILITARY MEDAL 8TH BLACK WATCH PLOUGHMAN
NEILL DAVID BLACK WATCH PRIVATE 7TH BLACK WATCH JOINER
NEILL GEORGE BLACK WATCH SERGEANT 7TH BLACK WATCH FACTOR'S CLERK
OLDMAN JAMES BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL 7TH BLACK WATCH JOINER
FENTON GEORGE ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS PRIVATE MOTOR TRANSPORT MOTOR ENGINEER
OVENSTONE WILLIAM ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE 2/9TH ROYAL SCOTS GARDENER
SCOTT JOHN SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE 7TH SEAFORTHS
SHORT JAMES ROYAL NAVY SUB LIEUTENANT MOTOR ENGINEER
SIMPSON WALTER ROYAL FUSILIERS LANCE CORPORAL 23RD R.F. BUILDER
SUNTER ANDREW B. CANADIANS PRIVATE 61ST C.E.F. CLUBMAKER
THOMSON JOHN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE 5TH CAMERONS CHAUFFEUR
THOMSON WILLIAM ROYAL ENGINEERS SERGEANT 128TH R.E. PLUMBER
WEBSTER WILLIAM BLACK WATCH PRIVATE 3RD BLACK WATCH FISHERMAN
WENZEL JOHN HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY PRIVATE 17TH H.L.I. TELEGRAPHIST
WESTWOOD CHARLES J. SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS CORPORAL 7TH SEAFORTHS BAKER



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
BOWERS ARCHIBALD B. ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
CUMMING WILLIAM ROYAL NAVY ORDINARY SEAMAN
HALIFAX JOHN LANARKSHIRE YEOMANRY ROYAL ARTILLERY LANCE SERGEANT
LILBURN WILLIAM HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY LIEUTENANT COLONEL
MCEWAN DAVID MERCHANT NAVY CHIEF OFFICER
NELSON THOMAS ROYAL AIR FORCE FLIGHT LIEUTENANT DISTINGUISHED FLYING CROSS
PEARSON ROBERT BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
SCOTT THOMAS ROYAL AIR FORCE FLIGHT SERGEANT
SIME ALEXANDER W. ROYAL AIR FORCE FLYING OFFICER
STEELE JOHN R. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
THOMSON ALEXANDER M.A. ROYAL NAVY NAVAL AIRMAN SECOND CLASS
THOMSON ROBERT W. ROYAL NAVY ABLE SEAMAN
TODD ALEXANDER C.L. ROYAL ARTILLERY SERGEANT
WHITE ROBIN E.B. ROYAL AIR FORCE FLIGHT LIEUTENANT
WELLS SIDNEY G. ROYAL NAVY LEADING SEAMAN


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Above the Great War panel is inscribed;

TO THE GLORIOUS MEMORY
OF THE MEN FROM ELIE & EARLSFERRY
WHO FELL IN THE GREAT WAR

and below it;

THEY DID THEIR STERN DUTY AND DIED GREATLY IN THE DOING OF IT
AND IN OUR HEARTS
THEIR NAME LIVETH FOR EVER MORE

I think that, although unusual, adding their occupations was a nice touch. Brings home just what ordinary men, ploughmen, joiners, etc. did & achieved.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another name has been added to the bottom of the right Great War Panel



Name: CROWLEY
Initials: A B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Ordinary Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: H.M.S. "Victory VI."
Age: 18
Date of Death: 07/10/1918
Service No: Clyde Z/10038
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Crowley, of 42, Durward Avenue, Shawlands, Glasgow. Born at Earlsferry, Fife.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: KILCONQUHAR PARISH CHURCHYARD
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Mark, if I'd known you had such good up to date photos I'd have left it to you.
I've included Able Seaman Crowley on the list at the top. Do you have a pic of the left hand panel?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: elie Reply with quote

Thanks to Alan Provan for the following photos.






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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the First World War names was not a local. He was the minister in Elie Parish Church between 1907 and 1914 and is listed on that memorial too.

MONTEITH, WILLIAM NEVE
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Rifle Brigade
Unit Text: 6th Bn. attd. 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 10.
Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

He is also listed on the memorial in St Ninan's Church Moniaive and the Moniaive Institute where his father was the minister. There is a copy of the copy of the Moniaive Church plaque in Glencairn church

As a church minister he is also listed on the Ministers Memorial in St Giles, Edinburgh under the Church of Scotland Combatants section

Finally there is a graveyard memorial of Monteith and his brother here

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm not sure where to start so here goes. i came across this site through a tag on the photo sharing website flickr. I noticed my name on a tag and it took me into the photo of the Elie memorial. on the momorial, and the reason I am on here, is a namesake of mine. Now Elie is in Fife and I am a Fifer born and bred and I am wondering if this Andrew Sunter on the memorial is in anyway related to me, but i dont have a clue where or how to find out. the reason I think we may be related is that the surname is fairly unusual and also that his forenames Andrew and Alexander (i found out from another site that the middle initial on the memorial is wrong and that his middlename is Alexander) crop up throughout my family history as far back as i know. my grandfather was Alexander, I have an uncle called Alexander, my brother's middlename is Alexander and so on

Anyone know where i might begin to find out if we are related?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Andrew
The memorial shows his unit as CEF - Canadian Expeditionary Force.
On his service record at the Library and Archives of Canada www.collectionscanada.gc.ca
Andrew Bowie Sunter born 23/3/1883 at Elie. His next of kin is his wife Isabella is residing at 53 King St. Montrose, Forfarshire.
Interestingly there are two other Sunters, both Alexander, a father and son born Paisley 1877 and 1897 and both appear to have survived.

Good Luck with your research.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew has posted a request for information in the Queries and Requests section - I would suggest all discussion go there in order to avoid duplication.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like this memorial has just been given a duplicate number on UKNIWM - '58301'
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly a photo of it's unveiling? A postcard sent through the mail in September 1922. Obviously pre-WW2 additions.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HALIFAX JOHN LANARKSHIRE YEOMANRY ROYAL ARTILLERY LANCE SERGEANT.

Named on the Lochmaben War Memorial in Dumfriesshire as:

Sgt. J. HALIFAX, R.A.
John Halifax age 30 Lance Sergeant (318264) 155 (The Lanarkshire Yeomanry) Field Regiment, Royal Artillery.
John was a member staff of the National Bank of Scotland at Elie and Upper Largo in Fife before moving to the Lochmaben branch where he also joined the Territorial Lanarkshire Yeomanry. He was mobilised in September 1939 and sailed with his regiment from the Clyde for India in March 1941. They moved to Malaya in October and fought the Japanese down the length of the country until the surrender of Singapore in February 1942. John died as a prisoner of war in Changi Camp and was buried there but was re-interred in Kranji in April 1945.
(Source: Dundee Courier 28/12/1945 p.2, The Lanarkshire Yeomanry Group and CWGC)
Born 1911 in Monifieth, Angus. Son of William Herbert Halifax and Catherine Low Taylor (Gregor) Halifax, formerly of the Victoria Hotel, Elie, Fife. Husband of Helen Lugton Montgomery (Graham) Halifax of Elie who he married in 1939 in Elie.
Died on Service on 20 August 1942 and buried in Kranji War Cemetery, Singapore.
Also named on the National Bank of Scotland memorial now in the RBS Head Office at Gogarburn, Edinburgh.
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Andrew Dunsire Pte S/20505 1st Gordon Highlanders b Kilconquhar, Fife e Perth Age 19 Died of Wounds F & F 03/04/1918 Son of Mr. and Mrs. John Dunsire, of Selina Villa, Earlsferry, Elie, Fife. Native of Earlsferry. 1901 Census: Germans Wynd, Earlsferry. Fa Occ: Gardener (Domestic). His brother John Herd Dunsire also fell. Mother : Williamina Foote. Soldiers Effects: Fa: John. Service Returns: 117/AF 76. Occ: Clubmaker. Etaples Military Cemetery Fr 0040 Plot XXXIII Row D Grave 29 St Andrews Citizen 13-04-18 P4 Fifeshire Advertiser 20-04-18 P8
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