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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Waterbeck Parish Church WW1 Reply with quote

I could not decide at first whether this was a single memorial or three memorials, it is 3 windows on the same wall of the parish church. OS Map Ref: NY 248 777.

In the end I decided it should be considered as one memorial because the 3 windows are all WW1 and clearly designed to be together. Please note that there is no separate civic memorial for Waterbeck.

Not listed on UKNIWM.

WW1 names of those who died:

Lt Thomas Johnstone Carlyle 2nd KOSB Passchendaeles Oct 1917
2Lt Robert Carlyle 5th KOSB Gallipoli 12th July 1915
2Lt James M Kerr
Cpl Richard Common MM
LCpl Archibald Armstrong
LCpl James Graham
LCpl Thomas Morrin
Pte George Bell
Pte William Chalmers
Pte John Davidson
Tpr Walter Graham
Pte David Patterson
Pte Samuel C Rogerson
Pte James W Ward









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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From memory Waterbeck and its church are both very small.
But this memorial is stunning.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes this is one of the smaller churches I have seen and the windows are magnificent in this setting. I was lucky on 2 counts: 1. I found the church open for no apparent reason and 2. The sun came out between the showers to light the windows, 2 more memorials to post from this church, later when I have done my best with the photos
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DerekR wrote:

But this memorial is stunning.


I'll second that. Fantastic photos Spoons.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This church was always owned by the parish and not the church of Scotland. Following a decision by the Church of Scotland to close the church, the parish decided to cede from the church of Scotland. It is now run privately as a church with an honorary minister but broadly follows church of Scotland practice. Its future and that of the memorials seems assured.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now on WMR (ex UKNIWm) as memorial 71676
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Dumfries and Galloway Standard 22 August 1917 page 4.
(less than two months later the second son, Thomas, was killed at Ypres)

A WATERBECK MEMORIAL
A very fine stained glass window has just been completed by Messrs William Meikle & Sons, 19 Wellington Street, Glasgow, and will be erected shortly in Waterbeck United Free Church in memory of Second Lieutenant Robert Carlyle, 5th KOSB, who was killed in action in Gallipoli on 15th (sic) July 1915. The window, which was designed by Mr. A. Rigby Gray, is an admirable example of artistic glass-work. Measuring about 17 feet by 2 feet 9 inches, the window may be divided into three portions.
(the article then goes on at some length to describe the detail and symbolism - finishing with)
Over all hovers the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove.

Presumably the design was redone to include Thomas and to list the other men of Waterbeck.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LCPL. ARCHIBALD ARMSTRONG.
Archibald Armstrong – age 24 – Lance Corporal (14828) 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Archie was a sawyer when he enlisted in September 1914 but he was drowned in the Aegean sea when the troopship Royal Edward was torpedoed and sunk by the German submarine UB14. Of the about 900 casualties, some 60 were from the 9th (Reserve) Battalion, KOSB as replacements for losses in the 1st Battalion.
Born 1890 in Tundergarth, Dumfriesshire. Son of Francis and Isabella (Buck) Armstrong of Cowburn and of Scroggs Cottage, Lockerbie.
Killed by enemy action/Lost at Sea on 13 August 1915 and named on the Helles Memorial, Gallipoli, Turkey.
Also named on the Hutton & Corrie Parish War Memorial in Boreland and on the Lockerbie War Memorial.


PTE. GEORGE BELL.
George Bell – age 21 – Private (S/22474) 6th Battalion, Cameron Highlanders.
George was a joiner living in Church Street when he enlisted as Private (1232) in the Territorial 5th KOSB in Moffat in March 1913. He was mobilised in August 1914 but transferred to the 2/5th Reserve Battalion in December. He was transferred again to the 12th Scottish Provisional Battalion in June 1915. He was discharged from the KOSB in March 1916 and re-enlisted into the Camerons under the terms of the Military Services Act, 1916.
Born 1896 in Hutton & Corrie, Dumfriesshire. Son of William Park Bell and of Margaret (Armstrong) of Carterton Cottage, Hutton and of Callister Hall, Waterbeck, Lockerbie.
Missing in Action on 31 July 1917 and named on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.
Also named on the Hutton & Corrie Parish War Memorial in Boreland, on the Lockerbie War Memorial, on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield.


2nd LIEUT. ROBERT CARLYLE, 5th KOSB, GALLIPOLI, 12th JULY 1915.
Robert Carlyle – age 22 – Second Lieutenant, 1/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Robert was educated at St. Mary's school in Melrose and at Edinburgh Academy before working in his father's wool and seed merchant business. He enlisted at the outbreak of war as a Private but by the end of August he had been commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant and he landed with his battalion at Gallipoli in June 1915 but a month later Robert was killed at the attack at Achi Baba Nullah.
Born 1892 in Middlebie. Son of Thomas Robert Carlyle and of Jean Graham (Miller) Carlyle of Templehill, Waterbeck, Lockerbie.
Killed in Action on 12 July 1915 and buried in Redoubt Cemetery, Helles, Gallipoli, Turkey.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Edinburgh Academy War Memorial.

and his brother

LIEUT. THOMAS JOHNSTONE CARLYLE, 2nd KOSB, PASSCHENDAELES, OCT.1917
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Thomas Johnstone Carlyle – age 19 – Lieutenant, 5th Battalion attached to the 2nd Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Thomas was educated at Edinburgh Academy and went from school to a commission in the 5th KOSB in December 1915. He joined the 2nd KOSB in France in February 1917 and was promoted to Lieutenant in July 1917 but three months later he was killed at Passchendaele.
Born 1898 in Middlebie. Son of Thomas Robert Carlyle and of Jean Graham (Miller) Carlyle of Templehill, Waterbeck, Lockerbie.
Killed in Action on 5 October 1917 and buried in Yprers Reservoir Cemetery, Belgium.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Edinburgh Academy War Memorial.

Their sister, Margaret Lee Carlyle, served in France with Scottish Churches Huts.
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PTE. WILLIAM CHALMERS.
William Ross Chalmers – age 24 – Private (1609) 28th Battalion, Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
William and his brother James emigrated in 1913 and became gold miners at Hack's Mine, Sandstone, Western Australia. He enlisted in March 1915 and sailed from Freemantle in June. He landed at Gallipoli in September and returned to Alexandria in January 1916 before sailing to Marseilles in March. William was a member of the Machine Gun Section when he wounded on 29 July and died in the 44th Casualty Clearing Station at Puchevillers on the following day.
Born 1892 in Annan, Dumfriesshire. Son of James and Josephine (Ross) Chalmers, of Linbridgeford Mill, Waterbeck, Ecclefechan.
Died of Wounds on 30 July 1916 and buried in Puchevillers British Cemetery, Somme, France.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
James Chalmers enlisted as Private (3291) in August 1915 and sailed from Freemantle in November. He returned to Australia on 28 February 1919.


CPL. RICHARD COMMON, M.M.
Richard Common, Miltary Medal – age 26 – Corporal (25879) 2nd Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Richard was a ploughman on his father's farm when he enlisted as Private (126242) in the Royal Field Artillery in 1916. He was posted to the Cameronians and was awarded a MM as 25879 L/C. R. Common, Sco. Rif. (Lockerbie) “for gallantry and devotion to duty east of Ypres in August 1917”. His body was buried by the Germans and was re-interred in Muille-Villette in July 1919.
Born 1892 in Hutton & Corrie, Dumfriesshire. Son of Walter and Elizabeth Helen (Halliday) Common of Meikle Whitriggs, Hutton, Lockerbie.
Killed in Action on 27 March 1918 and buried in Ham British Cemetery, Muille-Villette, Somme, France.
Also named on the Hutton and Corrie Parish War Memorial in Boreland and on the Lockerbie War Memorial.


PTE. JOHN DAVIDSON .
John Davidson – age 29 – Private (23836) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
John was posted to the 1st KOSB before transferring to the 6th Battalion. He died of pneumonia in hospital in Etaples.
Born 1887 in Middlebie. Son of Walter and Janet Carruthers (Coltart) Davidson of Torbeckhill, Waterbeck, Lockerbie.
Died on Active Service on 24 March 1917 and buried in Etaples Military Cemetery, France.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LCPL. JAMES GRAHAM .
James Graham – age 20 – Lance Corporal (31375) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Born 1897 at Scaleridge, Middlebie, Dumfriesshire. Son of Elizabeth Graham.
In 1901 Elizabeth 37 and her family Janet 14, Henry 6, James 3 and Barbara 3 months were at Scaleridge, and in 1911 were at Gawkhall, Kirkpatrick Fleming. Elizabeth 47, Janet 24, Henry 16, James 13, Barbara 10. James named Barbara and Henry as his next of kin.
Missing in Action on 30 September 1918 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.
Also named on the Kirkpatrick Fleming Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Springkell Estate Workers memorial at the former Kirkconnel Church near Eaglesfield.


TPR. WALTER GRAHAM.
Walter Jackson Graham – age 17 – Private (2199) 2nd/1st Lothians and Border Horse.
Walter was an undergamekeeper with the Duke of Buccleuch when he enlisted in early 1915. He was stationed at Amisfield Camp, Haddington, East Lothian when he contracted measles and died of pneumonia.
Born 1899 in Middlebie. Son of the late John Graham and of Isabella (Jackson) Graham of Falford Bar, Middlebie and of Hatts Cottage, Waterbeck, Lockerbie.
Died on Service on 9 January 1916 and buried in Langholm Cemetery, Dumfriesshire. (CWG)
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.


2ND LIEUT. JAMES M. KERR.
James Melrose Kerr – age 25 – Second Lieutenant, 1/5th Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
James was commissioned in the 5th RSF in October 1914 but went to France in October 1915. He joined the 5th RSF in Egypt after they were withdrawn from Gallipoli. He was drowned near Port Said.
Born 1890 in Coldingham, Berwickshire. Son of William and Eliza (Purves) Kerr of Middlebie Schoolhouse and of Kirklea, Waterbeck, Lockerbie.
Died on Active Service on 3 September 1916 and buried in Port Said War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.


LCPL. THOMAS MORRIN.
Thomas Morrin – age 26 – Lance Corporal (29302) 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Thomas was a warehouseman in Glasgow, living with his parents at 75 Stobhill Cottages, Springburn, and was almost 19 years old when he enlisted as Gunner (482) in the 3rd City of Glasgow Battalion of the Royal Field Artillery in March 1909. He served with the battalion until March 1916 and had been promoted to Sergeant when he was discharge after his full 7 years of service. Thomas was employed by Messrs T&R Carlyle, Seed Merchants, Waterbeck when he enlisted in the 2nd KOSB but was posted to the 7th/8th KOSB in France..
Born 1890 in Maxwelltown, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of the late Janet (Dempster) Morrin of Glasgow Street, Maxwelltown and of Thomas Morrin. Step-son of Agnes (Milligan or McLellan) Morrin of Springburn, Glasgow. Nephew of Councillor William J. Dickie of 36 Glasgow Street, Maxwelltown.
Missing in Action on 12 April 1917 and named on the Arras Memorial, France.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial and on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial.
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PTE. DAVID PATERSON.
David Graham Patterson – age 21 – Private (2549 & 240806) 1/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
David was educated at Goudhurst, Cranbrook in Kent and enlisted in November 1914. He joined his battalion in Egypt in 1916 and served in Palestine. He died of pneumonia in the 24th Stationary Hospital at Kantara in Egypt.
Born 1896 in Chesham, Amersham, Buckinghamshire. Son of the late David Graham Patterson of Chesham, Buckinghamshire and of Carruthers, Middlebie and of Williamina Byers (Park) Patterson of Burn Grange, Ecclefechan, Hoddom.
Died on Active Service on 8 August 1917 and buried in Kantara War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Lockerbie War Memorial.


PTE. SAMUEL C. ROGERSON.
Samuel Campbell Rogerson – age 19 – Private (6186) 1/20th Battalion, London Regiment.
Samuel was living in Burgh by Sands, Cumberland when he enlisted in Carlisle as Private (10/23939) in the Border Regiment. He was posted to the London Regiment.
Born 1897 at Millbank Cottage in Applegarth, Dumfriesshire as Samuel Campbell. Son of Catherine (Campbell) Rogerson and step-son of William Bell Rogerson of Carruther's Hill, Waterbeck.
Killed in Action on 24 July 1916 and buried in Foncquevillers Military Cemetery, France.
Also named on the Middlebie Parish War Memorial, on the Eaglesfield District War Memorial and on the Lockerbie War Memorial.


PTE. JAMES W. WARD.
The Waterbeck Church Roll of Honour lists James and John Ward – Whitcastles.
James Davidson Ward – age 24– Private (44156) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
James enlisted as Private (1474) in the Lanarkshire Yeomanry in 1916 and joined the 7th/8th KOSB in France in December 1916 before transferring to the 6th KOSB.
Born 1894 in Tundergarth, Dumfriesshire. Son of David Park Ward and of Janet (Davidson) Ward of Whitecastles Dairy, Corrie and of Cleuchside in Hoddom, Dumfriesshire. Husband of Sarah Ann (Johnstone) Ward of Marjoriebanks, Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire who he married in 1916 in Lochmaben.
Missing in Action on 25 April 1918 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.
Also named on the Hutton & Corrie Parish War Memorial in Boreland, on the Lockerbie War Memorial and on the Lochmaben Parish War Memorial.
The 1901 census for Tundergarth lists
David Ward 40, Janet 38, Janet F. 10, Jane P. 8, James D. 6, John 3, Margaret 3, William D. 10 Mo.

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