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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Thornhill Parish WW1 Reply with quote

not listed on UKNIWM

In entrance to Thornhill Parish Church at OS Map Ref: NX 882 958

The church is very large and impressive, unfortunately the congregation is far too small to do it justice. I have cheekily included a photograph of some of the stained glass windows just because they are rather good and give some impression of the church. They are memorials but not war memorials.







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David McNay
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following was posted by forum member Wul Graham:

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In Memory of Private JOHN McCALL BUCHANAN

20941, "D" Coy. 2nd Bn., Royal Scots Fusiliers who died age 19 on 30 July 1916
Son of James and Janet Buchanan, of Carronbridge, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.

Remembered with honour

NORFOLK CEMETERY, BECORDEL-BECOURT

http://www.wulgraham.co.uk/buchanan.html

http://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=39397

He is also on the war memorial at Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A three-fold loss Sad

Name: HIDDLESTON, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 5th/6th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 22/06/1918
Service No: 30109
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Hiddleston, of Carronbank, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XI. E. 12.
Cemetery: NINE ELMS BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: HIDDLESTON, JOHN SMITH
Initials: J S
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (Eastern Ontario Regiment)
Unit Text: No. 4 (University) Coy.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 02/06/1916
Service No: 475422
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Hiddleston, of Carronbank, Thornhill, Dunfries-shire, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 10.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Name: HIDDLESTON, ROBERT DALZIEL
Initials: R D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regiment)
Secondary Regiment: London Regiment
Secondary Unit Text: posted to 2nd/20th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 30/08/1918
Service No: G/36733
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Hiddleston, of Carronbank, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. E. 13.
Cemetery: H.A.C. CEMETERY, ECOUST-ST. MEIN
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly brothers - although there is a discrepancy in the address (4/34 West Morton Street)

Edited 20.2.09
For further info on these two Coltart men, see teddy's post below.


Name: COLTART, DAVID JOHN
Initials: D J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Lanarkshire Yeomanry
Age: 25
Date of Death: 17/11/1915
Service No: 1107
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Coltart, of 34, West Morton St., Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 18.
Cemetery: PINK FARM CEMETERY, HELLES

Name: COLTART, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 25/03/1918
Service No: 29184
Additional information: Son of Robert and Catherine Coltart, of 4, West Morton St., Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. C. 28.
Cemetery: FAUBOURG D'AMIENS CEMETERY, ARRAS


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another set of brothers

Name: COLTART, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps
Age: 32
Date of Death: 14/06/1919
Service No: 322117
Additional information: Son of William Coltart, of Thornhill.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: G2. 26.
Cemetery: MORTON (THORNHILL) CEMETERY

Name: COLTART, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 19/04/1917
Service No: 240934
Additional information: Son of William Coltart, of 49, North Drumlanrig St., Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panels 23 and 24.
Memorial: JERUSALEM MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the only Carnochans listed in these regiments so presumably they are the men on the memorial.

Name: CARNOCHAN
Initials: G
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment)
Unit Text: 43rd Bn.
Date of Death: 01/10/1918
Service No: 693234
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 15.
Cemetery: RAMILLIES BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: CARNOCHAN
Initials: J M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Date of Death: 23/04/1917
Service No: S/6746
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 2.
Cemetery: GUEMAPPE BRITISH CEMETERY, WANCOURT
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Thornhill WM Reply with quote

David McNay..
John McCall Buchanan, Service No20941,
is on Thornhill Wm and Roll of honour in Thornhill Church.
He is on family grave in Old Morton cemetery, Thornhill. Father James Buchanan and Mother Janet McCall.

Teddy


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Thornhill WM Reply with quote

apanderson,
Regarding Coltarts,

David John Coltart, Service No 1107 and Robert Coltart, Service No 29184 and not brothers. The addresses quoted above are correct.

Family grave for Robert Coltart in Old Morton Cemetery, Thornhill, Father Robert Coltart and Catherine Hastings.

Not found grave for David John Coltart as yet.

James Coltart, Service No 240934 and his brother Joseph Coltart Service No 32117 and on family grave in Old Morton Cemetery, Thornhill. Father William Coltart and Mother Agnes Welsh, who died 1908.

Joseph Coltart is on CWGC in Morton Cemetery.

All four men are on Thornhill WM and Roll of Honour.

Teddy


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Thornhill WM Reply with quote

apanderson,
Regarding Carnochan,

Information as posted above, correct both on Thornhill WM and on Roll of honour.

Teddy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Thornhill WM Reply with quote

dhubthaigh,
Regarding Hiddleson...

Yes three brothers, all on Thornhill WM and roll in Thornhill church.

All on family grave in Old Morton Cemetery.

Regards....Teddy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Hiddleston- Roll of Honour Reply with quote

This roll of honour was unveiled by Mrs.Maggie Hiddleston, as her 3 sons of the roll, on Sunday 3/7/1920. The address at the service was given by Right Rev Dr Andrew Wallace Williamson, Kings Chaplain, from St Giles, High Kirk, Edinburgh. Dr Williamson was born in Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
This roll has 60 names of which 56 men and 1 woman commemorated on the Morton WM and 3 on both of the 2 Durisdeer WM's.

Teddy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR, ex UKNIWM, memorial 72170
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