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Lt W H Cathcart, Carsphairn

 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Lt W H Cathcart, Carsphairn Reply with quote

Not listed on UKNIWM

Located on outside wall of Carsphairn Parish Church at OS Map Ref NX 562 931

Although the memorials inside the church are listed on UKNIWM, this unlisted memorial is around the back of the church on the outside wall. Even the minister was not aware of its existence. Just goes to show that it is always worth having a good look around yourself.

The lettering is heavily oxidised and difficult to read therefore I offer a transcription.

In loving memory of
Lieut W H Cathcart
3rd Batt Worcester Regt
Born 3rd May 1880 Died 17th Jany 1902
At Mafeteng Basutoland South Africa
While serving with
The 16th Mounted Infantry

And from the site www.redcoat.info

CATHCART - Lieutenant William Harold - 3/Worcestershire Regt.
Died of enteric at Mafeteng, Basutoland. 7th Jan. 1902. Aged 21. Son of Colonel A.M. Cathcart (Grenadier Guards), of Ripon. Born May 1880.

I donít know what his connection was with Carsphairn.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remembered there was a Cathcart listed on the Carsphairn Memorial;
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=223

Name: CATHCART, AUGUSTUS ERNEST
Initials: A E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 39
Date of Death: 14/09/1914
Additional information: Son of Col. The Hon. A. M. and Mrs. Cathcart, of Mowbray House, Ripon; husband of Hilda Renee Cathcart, of Scagglethorpe, Malton, Yorks.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sp. Mem. 1.
Cemetery: PAISSY CHURCHYARD

It appears that both were the sons of Col. The Hon. A.M. Cathcart.
One son killed in the Boer War and the other in the Great War. I wonder how many families experienced this type of tragedy?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1881 CENSUS

Mowbray House Kirkby Malzeard, York, England

Augustus Murry CATHCART Head M Male 50 Sandgate, Kent, England Magistrate Honl Late Col. In The Army
Jeane Mary CATHCART Wife M Female 33 Wensley, York, England
Ferderick Adrian CATHCART Son Male 7 Spennithorne, York, England
Augustus Ernest CATHCARTSon Male 6 Wensley, York, England
Mary Mildine CATHCART Dau Female 4 Kirkby Malzeard, York, England
Constance CATHCART Dau Female 3 Kirkby Malzeard, York, England
William Harold CATHCART Son Male 11 m Kirkby Malzeard, York, England
Margaret CARRIDGE Boarder U Female 22 York, York, England Governess (Teacher)
Elizabeth METCALFE Servant U Female 34 Hipswell, York, England Cook Domestic Servant
Margaret HOULISTON Servant U Female 43 Alnwick, Northumberland, England Ladys Maid Servant
Alice WRAY Servant U Female 23 Wensley, York, England Housemaid Servant
Margaret Elizth. THOMPSON Servant U Female 19 Gaylis, York, England Under Housemaid Servant
Annie PICKARD Servant U Female 21 Downholme, York, England Kitchen Maid Servant
Mary KIRKBRIDE Servant U Female 22 Wensley, York, England Nursery Maid Servant
Eliza HENLEY Servant U Female 38 Tickhill, York, England Head Nurse Servant
Sarah ARMSTRONG Servant U Female 19 Wensley, York, England Nursery Maid Servant
Thomas GOODYEAR Servant M Male 31 West Witton, York, England Butler Servant
Samuel RINGROVE Servant U Male 22 Ibstock, Leicester, England Footman Servant
George WARD Servant U Male 19 Barwick In Elmet, York, England Footman Servant
Thomas CRADOCK Servant U Male 19 Hudswell, York, England Groom Servant
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cathcarts seem to be another very well-to-do family. Their ancestral file is on the Familysearch website and 'googling' Augustus Murry Cathcart will lead to a wealth of information.

I have copied the following snippet;

The old "Craigengillan" lands bordered the Waterhead property to the south towards the town of St. John of Dalry......Colonel Cathcart died in 1868 and Jean (McAdam) died in 1878 childless and a widow. Having no heir the property was left to a nephew Augustus Murry Cathcart

So in short they would be landed proprietors, owning a few estates and must obviously have held one at/near Carsphairn ?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the 1915 Valuation Roll the eldest son, Major Frederick Adrian Cathcart, is recorded as being the owner of several properties in and around Carsphairn including Brockloch House and the Lead Mines at Woodhead.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR, ex UKNIWM, memorial 72119
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