The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

DerekR · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: Pte James Dunlop - RAMC

Pte James Dunlop - RAMC - listed on the Hawick Roll of Honour.
No mention in any Hawick press of the time.
Nil James Dunlops - RAMC in SDGW database
Nil James Dunlops - RAMC in CWGC database
Nil James Dunlops - RAMC in SNWM database

There are 4 Medal index cards for James Dunlop - RAMC.
These are numbered: 4366, 114040, 21193, 55383.
None of the above indicate that the man died.

However, there is a A/Sjt William James Dunlop RAMC who was killed whilst serving as T2/Lt in the R.F.A.
His father's address is given as Bushmills, Co.Antrim.

There are 21 deaths recorded in the Scottish Records from 1914 to 1923 in the age range of 18 to 50.
None show a Hawick area death to the name.

Has anyone any ideas where I look now?
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spoons · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

I have an idea for someone to contact and will send you a PM.

\Paul

DerekR · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:

Sadly, James is not listed on the RAMC Roll of Honour.

Another brick wall I think.
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spoons · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject:

Couple of suggestions:

1. He survived the war but died shortly after discharge and they decided to add his name anyway

2. He was not RAMC (perhaps a stretcher bearer?)

\Paul

DerekR · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:

Just bringing this man back to the top.
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DerekR · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:03 am Post subject:

Despite everyone's help, I'm still stuck with this man but here is his entry on the Hawick Roll of Honour which was unveiled on November, 11th, 1923:

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dhubthaigh · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject:

Only two James Dunlops were born in Hawick prior to the Great War, one in 1857, the other in 1903.

The first was illegitimate. His mother, Elizabeth Dunlop, married a railway labourer called William Sawright in 1860. Apart from the birth of a daughter that same year and her subsequent death in 1862 the Sawright's then disappear from Scottish vital records.

The second was born in 1903 at 7 O'Connell Street to James Dunlop and Maggie Little. James was a traction engine driver employed by Hawick County Council. There were two older siblings Jeannie and James. The whole family were natives of Hawick. In 1924 James, a power loom weaver, then residing at 18 Minto Place, married Janet Douglas. In 1951 James' mother died at Minto Place, James registering the death with his address given as 132 Silverbuthall, Hawick. In 1981 James died at Durisdeer aged 78.

* It could be possible that James served in the Great War for a short time and his name has been added to the Roll of Honour in error. Perhaps an obituary or a living relative would hold the answer.

I know the Golden Book lists two Perth brothers who served, survived and died many years later in other parts of Scotland.

Note:

Hawick News: 03.12.2010
James Dunlop Obituary

DUNLOP James (Jimmy) Probus Club, archaeological stalwart, and Hawick Jazz Festival leading light, after a brave fight against illness, loving husband of Shiela, cherished father of Leslie, Susan and Keith,devoted father-in-law of the late Alan, Morag and Ian and proud grandfather of James and David. A proud Hawick man who will be sadly missed by all who knew him. A cremation will take place at Mortonhall Crematorium, Pentland Chapel, on Tuesday, 7th December, at 2.30pm, a service will follow at Cavers Church, at a future date, due to cancellation today.

Hawick News: 23.12.2010
John Douglas Dunlop Obituary

DUNLOP At the Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, on 31st December, 2009, John Douglas Dunlop, beloved husband of Olive, Livingston, brother of Sadie (Blaikie), Peterhead and Jim, Hawick.

DerekR · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject:

Thanks Mark, I appreciate the time you've spent on this.

I knew the late Jimmy Dunlop but sadly I never asked him if he was related to the Great War James Dunlop when I could have.
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Adam Brown · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:42 pm Post subject:

There's been a few years since this was last posted on. Has there been any progress?

Thanks

Adam

DerekR · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject:

No progress made at all I'm afraid.
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Adam Brown · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject:

Ah well. Maybe one of these days.

Thanks Derek

Adam

David McNay · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:48 pm Post subject:

I had a search of the Pension Ledgers and Index Cards on Fold3 using the four service number in the intial post - no results.