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DerekR Moderator
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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O/S Map ref: NT 83227 55235 situated on the main Chirnside to Duns road. _________________
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John Durham
Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 13 Location: Durham
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: Edrom War Memorial |
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Robert Hill RGA recorded near the base of the memorial was a Gateshead Borough policeman. His details are as follows;
Robert Hill born 6th November 1886 at Choicelee Farm, Langton to William & Agnes (nee Hamilton) Hill. They lived at Woodheads, Greenlaw when Robert applied to join the police service.
He was a single man , occupation farm servant employed by James McDougal, Bassendean, Gordon when he was appointed as a constable with Gateshead Borough Police on the 1st October 1909.
On the 16th June 1911 he married Elizabeth Martin (farm servant) of The Bridge, Chirnside, Berwick at Edrom. Marriage was number 5 of 1911 in the Parish of Edrom.
On 13th June 1917 he resigned from the police and enlisted as Gunner 167343 RGA serving with the 169th Siege Battery. He was KIA 15.4.1918 and is buried in Boves West Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France. Grave reference C 35.
His brother David Hill was an Edinburgh City policeman and he enlisted as Private S/18675 Cameron Highlanders and was KIA 13th August 1916 while serving as a Lance Corporal with the 6th Battalion. He had been at Robert's wedding in 1911, possibly best man.
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Kenneth Morrison
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: O'Donnell - South Africans |
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Can anyone find the two O'Donnells - South African Scottish?????? and are they related to Sergeant Neil O'Donnell???? _________________ Ken |
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Adam Brown Curator
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have come across a Scot in the South African army who returned to South Africa and died in August 1919. He is listed on a war memorial but is not on CWGC / SNWM.
Could these two have survived the war in 4th South African Infantry Regiment and returned to South Africa but succumbed to something like Spanish Flu?
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Merseman
Joined: 07 Aug 2013 Posts: 339 Location: Duns, Berwickshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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apanderson wrote: | The Scotsman, Tuesday 21st December 1920, Page 8
EDROM
Lady Houston-Boswall, Blackadder, unveiled on Sunday afternoon a war memorial in the form of a Celtic Cross which has been erected to the memory of 46 officers and men from the parish of Edrom who fell in the war. Major Logan Home, Edrom, gave a short address, and the monument was dedicated by the Rev. John McKechnie, parish minister.
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The Buildings of Scotland - Borders, p257
War Memorial, South-East on the A6105. A carved Celtic cross by JS Rhind, c1920. |
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DelBoy
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:47 am Post subject: Pte. Joseph C. Learmonth/Learmouth |
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Private Joseph Learmonth, Seah. H.
(Glasgow Herald 22nd June 1915)
"Private Joseph Learmonth, 2nd Seaforth Highlanders, who is officially reported killed, is a Berwickshire man. Prior to enlisting two years ago he was a farm servant in Chirnside district. He was wounded early in the war, and had just rejoined his regiment when he was killed."
Learmonth on Memorial and SNWM, Learmouth on CWGC and press article.
CWGC
LEARMOUTH, JOSEPH C.
Rank: Private
Service No: 1230
Date of Death: 25/04/1915
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: B. 1. (Headstone "A" 15).
Cemetery: SEAFORTH CEMETERY, CHEDDAR VILLA
SNWM
Surname: LEARMONTH
Forename: Joseph C
Rank: Pte
Service number: 1230
Place of birth: Ayton Berwickshire
Date of death: 25 April 1915
Theatre of death: F&F
Cause of death: Killed in action
SNWM roll: THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Other detail: 2nd Bn. |
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DerekR Moderator
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 3013 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Edrom War Memorial |
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John Durham wrote: | Robert Hill RGA recorded near the base of the memorial was a Gateshead Borough policeman. His details are as follows;
Robert Hill born 6th November 1886 at Choicelee Farm, Langton to William & Agnes (nee Hamilton) Hill. They lived at Woodheads, Greenlaw when Robert applied to join the police service.
He was a single man , occupation farm servant employed by James McDougal, Bassendean, Gordon when he was appointed as a constable with Gateshead Borough Police on the 1st October 1909.
On the 16th June 1911 he married Elizabeth Martin (farm servant) of The Bridge, Chirnside, Berwick at Edrom. Marriage was number 5 of 1911 in the Parish of Edrom.
On 13th June 1917 he resigned from the police and enlisted as Gunner 167343 RGA serving with the 169th Siege Battery. He was KIA 15.4.1918 and is buried in Boves West Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France. Grave reference C 35.
His brother David Hill was an Edinburgh City policeman and he enlisted as Private S/18675 Cameron Highlanders and was KIA 13th August 1916 while serving as a Lance Corporal with the 6th Battalion. He had been at Robert's wedding in 1911, possibly best man.
John |
David Hill has recently been added to the Stow War Memorial
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=443&highlight=stow _________________
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 21200 Location: Aberdeen
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:57 pm Post subject: Archibald Wightman |
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Archibald Wightman Pte S/6824 9th Gordon Highlanders b Cranshaws,Berwick e Duns Killed in Action F&F 28/06/1917 Son of William & Elizabeth Wightman. Kimmerghame, Duns, Berwickshire. Short Service: Occ: Vanman. Age 22: 30 Pages. Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Menin Road South Military Cemetery, Ypres B 072 Plot I Row S Grave 25 _________________ Researching WWI info from Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire & Morayshire.
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:59 pm Post subject: Samuel Allison |
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Samuel Allison L/Sgt 1697 8th Gordon Highlanders b Lochrotten,Kirkudbr. e Berwick-on-Tweed Killed in Action F&F 25/09/1915 (Battle of Loos). Soldiers Effects: Father: Joseph. Loos Memorial M. R. 19 Panel 115 to 119 _________________ Researching WWI info from Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire & Morayshire.
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject: John Blacklock |
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John Blacklock Pte S/11759 1st Gordon Highlanders b Roberton, Roxburgh. e Stirling Killed in Action F&F 15/07/1916 Soldiers Effects: Father John. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C _________________ Researching WWI info from Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire & Morayshire.
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anne park Our first ever 2000 poster
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: Alexander Harvey |
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Alexander Harvey Pte S/7263 2nd Gordon Highlanders b Norham, Northumber. e Aberdeen Age 23 Died of Wounds F & F 16/05/1915 Son of Andrew Harvey, Ayton Law, Ayton, Berwickshire. Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Bethune Town Cemetery Fr 0080 Plot III Row D Grave 24 _________________ Researching WWI info from Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire & Morayshire. |
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DerekR Moderator
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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anne park wrote: | John Blacklock Pte S/11759 1st Gordon Highlanders b Roberton, Roxburgh. e Stirling Killed in Action F&F 15/07/1916 Soldiers Effects: Father John. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C |
Blacklock, John. Pte. no. 11759, 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders formerly Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders. Commemorated Thiepval Memorial, France. Killed in action 15/7/16 aged 22. A son of John and Helen Blacklock, Craigswalls, Edrom,and brother of William who served in the Royal Scots. John was born in Roberton and had served in the Edinburgh Police before enlisting.
Berwickshire News and General Advertiser 25 July 1916 _________________
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Merseman
Joined: 07 Aug 2013 Posts: 339 Location: Duns, Berwickshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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During the Duns church service on Remembrance Sunday the names of 213 WWI fatalities named on memorials and headstones in Duns & District were read out between each item of the service, grouped in streets & rural areas. About half were accompanied by the man's photo taken from contemporary local newspapers - one lady lost at sea was also commemorated in this way - which proved quite moving.
I was privileged to be invited to spend about 90 min with both P7 classes at Duns Primary today, showing them the men's photos and talking about how the war started, the experience of WWI locally and the local war memorials. It was heartening how interested they were and all the questions they had.
For about 10% of the men I briefly expanded on their experience - whether typical or extraordinary - including this headstone from Edrom churchyard:
Erected by his fellow servicemen in memory of
ADAM SUTHERLAND
who died from war wounds
15th October 1934
aged 58 years
It was erected December 1935.
Sutherland worked at Chirnside station then the nearby paper mill, and was the "first Derby scheme man to be wounded in the district" in August 1916.
Serving with the KOSB in the Somme offensive, he had a foot amputated.
After the war he was a pivotal figure in establishing the local British Legion.
His gravestone is a rudimentary nod to a CWGC design. |
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Merseman
Joined: 07 Aug 2013 Posts: 339 Location: Duns, Berwickshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: O'Donnell - South Africans |
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Kenneth Morrison wrote: | Can anyone find the two O'Donnells - South African Scottish?????? and are they related to Sergeant Neil O'Donnell???? |
Adam Brown wrote: | I have come across a Scot in the South African army who returned to South Africa and died in August 1919. He is listed on a war memorial but is not on CWGC / SNWM.
Could these two have survived the war in 4th South African Infantry Regiment and returned to South Africa but succumbed to something like Spanish Flu?
Adam |
They appear to have been 3 relations and presumably brothers. In the "Roll of Honour" printed in the Berwickshire News in May and again in July 1919, they feature as: Sergeant Neil (DLI), Private AW (South African Contingent) and Private T (South African Contingent) O'Donnell; all from Kimmerghame Mains Farm by Edrom. They appear to have had connections to Winchburgh.
Also death notice as killed in action in France appears in local paper for this man "son of late Patrick & Ellen"...
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1560071/o'donnell,-john/
... perhaps unrelated. |
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stuartn
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:49 am Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number |
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WMR 69087 |
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