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Fowler Brothers, Ullapool, Ross & Cromarty

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Fowler Brothers, Ullapool, Ross & Cromarty Reply with quote

Fowler Family Clock, Ullapool
Location: Corner of Argyll Street and Quay Street.
OS Ref: NH 128 940

This memorial clock was orginally erected in honour of J Arthur Fowler in 1899. During the Great War two of his sons were killed and commemorative plaques were added for them.













I don't think this is the original location of the memorial.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two sons commemorated are:

Name: FOWLER, Sir JOHN EDWARD
Rank: Captain (Adjt.)
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 2nd Bn. attd 1st/4th Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 22/06/1915
Additional information: 3rd Bart. Son of Sir John Arthur Fowler, 2nd Bart. and Lady Fowler, of Inverbroom House, Braemore, Garve. His brother Alan also fell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: FOICH BURIAL GROUND

Name: FOWLER, ALAN ARTHUR
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: "B" Coy. 2nd Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 28/04/1915
Additional information: Youngest son of the late Sir John Arthur Fowler, 2nd Baronet Fowler of Braemore, Ross-shire; husband of Alice Mary Fowler. His brother Sir John Edward Fowler also fell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 38 and 40.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Foich burial ground is the private cemetery on the Fowler's Bramore estate near Garve. The 1/4th Seaforths were in France by June 1915 and according to this website which shows a photograph of the funeral of the 3rd Baronet:

http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/item/item_photograph.jsp?item_id=1015

Captain John Folwer died in France.

Funeral of Captain Sir John Fowler, Bart., Seaforth Highlanders, Lochbroom, 1915.

Fowler joined the Seaforths in 1904 and at the outbreak of the First World War was sent to the front, taking part in the Battles of Neuve Chapelle and Aubers Ridge. He was killed in the trenches on the 22nd 1915 and his funeral took place a week later, the service being held at Inverbroom House.

He was very highly respected amongst his fellow officers. Brigadier-General Ross, CB, wrote at the time, 'He was one of the very best young Officers I have ever met, and an example to all others. It was mainly due to his wonderful influence that the Battalion did so well'.

His grandfather, Sir John Fowler (1817 - 1898) was an architect and designer. He was responsible for the design of the Forth Rail Bridge


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both brothers are also listed on the Garve and Ullapool War Memorials

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following images have been scanned from the book 'Records of the Men of Lochbroom' and relate to Captain Sir John Fowler. This particular copy is in the hands of Eddie Stewart, Pitlochry whose grandfather was one of the soldiers assigned to return Fowler's body home from France. Isn't this very unusual? I thought that there was to be equality in death and that all would be "buried where they fell" (sic). The story must be very interesting. I cannot see why he should be an exception given there were others of wealth and notoriety who were not afforded this opportunity.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
I thought that there was to be equality in death and that all would be "buried where they fell" (sic). The story must be very interesting. I cannot see why he should be an exception given there were others of wealth and notoriety who were not afforded this opportunity.


Captian Fowler must have been one of the last bodies repatriated before this practice stopped. The great and the good and those with influence in right places could pay to have their loved ones repatriated. It was a contentious practice and Fabian Ware (of what would later become the CWGC) put a stop to it in 1915.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
'Records of the Men of Lochbroom'


I've never seen a copy of this Roll of Honour. Does it just cover Ullapool's war dead or does it cover a larger area than that?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
dhubthaigh wrote:
'Records of the Men of Lochbroom'


I've never seen a copy of this Roll of Honour. Does it just cover Ullapool's war dead or does it cover a larger area than that?

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Adam,
I have not seen the whole book although Eddie did say I could have a look through it. He scanned a few pages and sent them by e-mail. I don't know how many were done originally but I think it would be quite rare now.
It looks a cracker though and to be honest I'd love to get a copy myself.

rgds.,
Mark

P.S.
I wonder how many (and who) had their bodies repatriated?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know more on the circumstances of the death of Captain Alan Arthur Fowler ?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I was intrigued to find all this information available as I have recently become interested in my family history due to a member on my mother's side 'finding' me. People that I had no idea existed. So then I started looking into my father's side - John Harry Fowler, who died 1999 Christmas Day. The two men in the articles above were maybe my Great Uncles. Sir John Fowler, civil engineer, was my Gt Gt Uncle. Its sad to read this as it makes me think of how people suffer in war. However it is fascinating at the same time. My family were very rich and I guess that is how an why the bodies were recovered. However I am only guessing as you know more than me. I would be interested in hooking up with Eddie who seeming holds the book mentioned about. Thank you for your time, Vanessa Fowler
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:50 pm    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number Reply with quote

This is now WMR report 44562
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