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MagsD



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For interested folks:

Louis Rapp
Death Cert. GROS 1919 Deaths 685/01 0346
He died on 27 March 1919, age 33, at the Military Hospital, Craigleith, Edinburgh with cause of death given as Carcinoma of the Pelvic Colon, 4 months. Acute obstruction, 2 days. Informant was his widow.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the photographs, Adam.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject: Isaac Rosenberg Reply with quote

Mags

I found he was not on CWGC, hence my interest in him. I found the records but wondered if you have anything else.
Am looking into him.

Rapp is not on SDGW because he died at Home in 1919.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mags

I have no doubt that Isaac Rosenberg would qualify as war dead if it could have been proven that his death was linked to TB on discharge, a respiratory complaint or malaria.
Sadly, there is nothing remaining in his file to help us.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Jim,

The information I have about Isaac comes from Service Records( there are 2) and death certificate. Do you have access to ancestry to view the records?

Have copied what I have about the family.
GROS 1923 Deaths 685/06 0708 Mother Sarah Geransky died 4 Dec 1923 at 8 Henry Street, Leith. Age 63. Parents: Jacob Geransky and Ethel Abraham Cause: Heart Disease Informant: ? Freeman, son in law
GROS 1924 Deaths 685/05 1306 Father: Solomon Rosenberg died 12 Dec 1924 at Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh. Age 70.Usual residence: 8 Henry Street, Leith. Parents: No names apart from Rosenberg. Informant was daughter, ? Foyle

Parents born Poland. Sister Janet born Germany, others born Edinburgh.

Known siblings: Janet(Mrs Weinberg died 1911) Annie, Lena(Mrs Freeman died 1967) Rosa, Ettie(Mrs Foyle died 1946)

1901 Census: 5 Parkside Street, Edinburgh. Isaac, age 16, was a tailor's presser

1911 Census: 5 Parkside Street, Edinburgh. Isaac, age 26, still a tailor's presser. Parents married 33 years, 13 children born alive, 7 still living.

Daughter Janet, husband and 4 children staying with parents 1901 and 1911 census returns.

1915 Valuation Roll: 8 Henry Street

Let me know if there is something specific.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Jim,

I must have been typing up the info when you posted.

I don't know anything about evidence needed for CWGC.
However, Isaac's record evidences Silver Badge 25/02/1919 and the fact that he had malaria. His death cert. shows TB, only three months between discharge date and death. Would all that information combined not be taken into consideration?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mags

I have access to his records. None of the family / Census info you give helps. What I need is a proven link between the cause of his death and his discharge from the army. They are two different ailments ie. Malaria and TB. Had the certifying doctor written " six months " after the cause of death it would have helped.

The DC is actually wrong. Having been discharged three months earlier he was no longer a Pte. R.F.A. but had his number been recorded that too would have helped.
Am checking further.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jim.

On a steep learning curve!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: Rosenberg, Isaac Private, Royal Field Artillery, 176063 Reply with quote

Mags

I can now confirm that I have put together a case for Isaac Rosenberg and this is being forwarded to MOD / CWGC for consideration. It has pased the initials checks, is now in the system and have no doubt that it will suceed. I am currently trying to locate his grave.

Thanks for highlighting his situation and drawing it to my attention.
Well done in finding him.

I have created a thread on the CWGC non-comms section for him.

If you want to send me an e-mail to the address from my signature I can update you in due course.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update, Jim.

Have sent you an email re burial place.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re POLLI, SIMON

Rank: Private
Service No: 7680226
Date of Death: Between 06/12/1942 and 07/12/1942
Age: 34
Regiment/Service:Royal Army Pay Corps
Panel ReferencePanel 20. Column 1.
Memorial: BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Son of Jacob and Sarah Polli; husband of Peggy Polli, of West Kensington, London.

He is on the casualty list for S.S. Ceramic. The ship was torpedoed and sunk west of the Azores. All 656 lost apart from one. More info on the following links:

http://webspace.webring.com/people/sm/mulderspants/ceramicstats.html

http://webspace.webring.com/people/sm/mulderspants/CERAMICLOSSES.html#home

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

A thought! Wondering if this memorial could be moved to the Edinburgh section instead of being in Queries and Requests?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point MagsD! I have now moved it to Edinburgh Other.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MagsD wrote:
Re POLLI, SIMON

Rank: Private
Service No: 7680226
Date of Death: Between 06/12/1942 and 07/12/1942
Age: 34
Regiment/Service:Royal Army Pay Corps
Panel ReferencePanel 20. Column 1.
Memorial: BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Son of Jacob and Sarah Polli; husband of Peggy Polli, of West Kensington, London.

He is on the casualty list for S.S. Ceramic. The ship was torpedoed and sunk west of the Azores. All 656 lost apart from one. More info on the following links:

http://webspace.webring.com/people/sm/mulderspants/ceramicstats.html

http://webspace.webring.com/people/sm/mulderspants/CERAMICLOSSES.html#home

Mags


He is also listed on the Garnethill Synagogue ROH http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=4188 and the memorial at the Jewish Prayer Hall at Barlanark http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=7079

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Ronaleyn Fraser Paterson Reply with quote

Ronaleyn Fraser Paterson L/Cpl S/40443 8th/10th Gordon Highlanders b Dunphail, Morayshire e Edinburgh Age 33 Died of Wounds F&F 10/04/1917 Short Service: Occ: House Painter. Wife: Cissie. Soldiers Effects: Cissie. Sometimes Roy. Duisans British Cemetery, Etrun Fr 0113 Plot III Row C Grave 20 Jewish Memorial, Piershill Cemetery, Portobello
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