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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: William Alexander Ross Reply with quote

1942: W.A. Ross

Not identified on CWGC.

According to Wikipedia he died 28th of September 1942 as a result of the war.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:09 am    Post subject: Lt. John Gordon Scott Forrest Reply with quote

1942: J.G.S. Forrest

Name: FORREST, JOHN GORDON SCOTT
Initials: J G S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant (A)
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: H.M.S. "Blackcap"
Age: 25
Date of Death: 14/09/1942
Additional information: Son of Alexander T. Forrest and Constance N. Forrest, of Giffnock. B.A. (Cantab.); Rugby Football Blue; Scottish Rugby Football International.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 2.
Cemetery: PAISLEY (WOODSIDE) CREMATORIUM
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Lt. George Roberts Reply with quote

1943: G Roberts

No mention of international rugby representation.

Name: ROBERTS, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 02/08/1943
Service No: 186375
Additional information: Son of George and Jane Richardson Roberts, of Edinburgh. His brother Kenneth also died on service.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Coll. grave 6. G. 1-67.
Cemetery: KANCHANABURI WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:58 am    Post subject: Wg.Cdr. William Mitchell Penman Reply with quote

1943: W.M. Penman

No mention of international rugby representation.

Name: PENMAN, WILLIAM MITCHELL
Initials: W M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Wing Commander (Pilot)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 61 Sqdn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 03/10/1943
Service No: 37362
Awards: D F C, A F C, Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of George and Alice Penman; husband of Peggy Leila Penman, of St. John's Wood, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 3. A. 8.
Cemetery: HANOVER WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject: Sgn.Lt. Alastair Simpson Bell McNeil Reply with quote

1944: A.S.B. McNeil

Name: McNEIL, ALASTAIR SIMPSON BELL
Initials: A S B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Surgeon Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: H.M.L.S.T. 422.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 26/01/1944
Service No: 422
Additional information: Son of David Bell McNeil, M.A., and Isabella McNeil, of Edinburgh. M.B., Ch.B. (Edin.). Represented Scotland at Rugby Football and Cricket.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 79, 3.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Capt. William Norman Renwick Reply with quote

1944: W.N. Renwick

No mention of international rugby representation.

Name: RENWICK, WILLIAM NORMAN
Initials: W N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Royal Horse Artillery
Unit Text: 1 Regt.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 15/06/1944
Service No: 166100
Additional information: Son of William Barr Renwick and Helen Nora Renwick, of Corstorphine, Edinburgh. B.A. (Oxon.).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I, D, 14.
Cemetery: BOLSENA WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Mjr. George Holmes Gallie Reply with quote

1944: G.H. Gallie

No mention of international rugby representation.

Name: GALLIE, GEORGE HOLMES
Initials: G H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Major
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 78 Field Regt.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 16/01/1944
Service No: 66954
Awards: M C
Additional information: Son of Robert Arthur and Frances Gallie, of Edinburgh. B.L. His brother Robert Eric also died on service.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III, B, 18.
Cemetery: MINTURNO WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:38 pm    Post subject: John Henry Dods Reply with quote

DerekR wrote:
World War I Scottish Players Killed
[From SRU library]

Name Caps Played
1. R F Simson 1 1911
2. J L Huggan 1 1914
3. J Ross 5 1901-03
4. L Robertson 9 1908-13
5. F H Turner 15 1911-14
6. J Pearson 12 1909-13
7. D M Bain 11 1911-14
8. W C Church 1 1906
9. E T Young 1 1914 g
10. P C B Blair 5 1912-13
11. W M Wallace 4 1913-14
12. D R Bedell-Sivright 22 1900-08 d. ? Gallipoli (w)
13. W M Dickson 7 1912-13 g
14. D D Howie 7 1912-13
15. A Ross 5 1905-09
16. C H Abercrombie 6 1910-13
17. J S Wilson 2 1908-09
18. R Fraser 4 1911
19. E Milroy 12 1910-14
20. J G Will 7 1912-14
21. T A Nelson 1 1898
22. W T Forrest 8 1903-05
23. A L Wade 1 1908
24. J Y M Henderson 1 1911
25. J A Campbell 1 1900
26. S S L Steyn 2 1911-12
27. G A W Lamond 3 1899-1905
28. W R Hutchison 1 1911
29. R E Gordon 3 1913
30. W R Sutherland 13 1910-14


Not included in the SRU list is former rugby internationalist John Henry Dods.
He and his family perished in an Naval accident. As he was not a member of the military he is not included in CWGC.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: William Alexander Ross Reply with quote

DelBoy wrote:
1942: W.A. Ross

Not identified on CWGC.

According to Wikipedia he died 28th of September 1942 as a result of the war.


This is the only man in the SRU roll of honour i can find nothing about other than what his wiki page has. Not on CWGC/SNWM or a death on Scotlands-People.

Anyone able to help find what happened to him?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek - could this be him? The year is "out" but the day and month are the same - and the age matches.

ROSS, WILLIAM ALEXANDER
Rank:Sergeant
Trade:Pilot
Service No:968129
Date of Death:28/09/1941.
Age:28
Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
55 Sqdn.
Grave ReferenceJoint grave 4. D. 9-10.
CemeteryHALFAYA SOLLUM WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Jean Lang Ross, of Hillhead, Glasgow.

This is reported in rafcommands site at

http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?8990-Blenheim-Pilot-William-Alexander-Ross-KIA-28-09-1941-55-Sqn

28-9-1941
No.55 Sqn.
Blenheim IV V5560
Op: Bardia

Took off 0407, LG 17 (Fuka Main), detailed for a low-level attack on a 2,000 ton ship in Bardia Harbour. After completing the attack V5560 was seen to continue inland at c10 metres?. Hit by flak, it crashed into a small house, killing the three crew and several German soldiers. The crew is buried in Halfaya Sollum War cemetery.

968129 Sgt (Pilot) William Alexander ROSS RAFVR +
NZ401277 Sgt Charles Ian JOHNSTON RNZAF +
939321 Sgt Ernest James SPRANGE RAFVR +

See:

Royal Air Force Bomber Losses in the Middle East and Mediterranean Volume 1: !939-1942
Gunby,David & Pel Temple.
Hinckley:Midland Publishing,2006.
p.87

I cannot find any ref to Scottish Rugby.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His photo and biog. details are at

http://www.hjrfc.com/HWM/Hillhead_High_School_War_Memorial_Volume_1939-1945BW.pdf

He played for Scotland against England and Wales in 1937.

He is shown on the Volume and on the Hillhead High School memorials as Pilot-Officer.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah good stuff Ken, I was focussing too much on the year 1942.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The names of those who died in WWI have now been added to the memorial. I will get a photo at the weekend.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject: Remembering Gordon Highlander 100 years on Reply with quote

David McLaren Bain Capt 3rd Gordon Highlanders attd 2nd Bn b Edinburgh Age 24 Killed in Action F & F 03/06/1915 Son of William & Edith Bain, 42 Moray Pl; Edinburgh. 1901 Census: Born Edinburgh 1895. Officers Book page 166. Brown's Road Military Cemetery, Festubert Fr 0260 Plot VIII Row F Grave 14 Daily Record 8-6-15 Page 6: Photo. Photos taken 2010 N 2014 J
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As promised, better late than never!


The SRU arch with the new memorial dedicated to those who died in WWI

Close ups of new WWI Memorial
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