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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:23 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. Robert DUNLOP, H.L.I. - Not Listed here Reply with quote

Not listed at Saltcoats.
Not listed at Stevenston.



The Glasgow Herald, Friday, 8th March, 1918.
"Deaths on Service.
DUNLOP.-
Previously reported missing now officially presumed killed in action on 20th May, 1917, Private Robert Dunlop, H.L.I., aged 21 years, elder son of John Dunlop, draper, and Mrs Dunlop, Ravenston, Gladstone Road, Saltcoats."


SDGW - Born Stevenston; lived Saltcoats; enlisted Glasgow.

1901 Census Ayrs., Saltcoats, 54 Parkend Road. Robert Dunlop (5) scholar, listed amongst the family of John Dunlop, draper. Place of birth of all children has been transcribed "Saltcoats".

SNWM - WW1
Surname DUNLOP
Forename Robert
Rank Pte
Service number 331321
Decoration
Place of birth Stevenston Ayrshire
Date of death 20 May 1917
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY

CWGC - DUNLOP, Robert
Other detail 9th Bn.
Rank: Private.
Service No: 331321.
Date of Death: 20/05/1917.
Age: 21.
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry 9th (Glasgow Hds.) Bn.
Panel Reference: Bay 8.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:Son of John and Elizabeth Dunlop, of "Ravenston", 58, Gladstone Rd., Saltcoats, Ayrshire.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Saltcoats Memorial - James Brand Scott Miller Reply with quote

govangirl wrote:
CWGC Information

Name: MILLER
First Names: James Brand Scott
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery
Unit: 252nd Siege Bty
Age: 27
Date of Death: 14/03/1918
Additional information: Son of the late Thomas and Catherine Miller. Native of Saltcoats, Ayrshire
Cemetery/Memorial reference: XV. B. 15
Cemetery: THE HUTS CEMETERY

The 1901 census shows the family living at 13 Springvale Street, Saltcoats


The Glasgow Herald, Wednesday, 20th March, 1918. "CASUALTIES, Notes on Officers. ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY. Mr JAMES BRAND SCOTT MILLER.- Killed. Lieutenant Miller was the fourth son of the late Mr Thomas Miller, joiner, Springvale Street, Saltcoats. He was 27 years of age and before enlisting was in the office of the Bank of Scotland at the Milngavie and Bearsden branch. He was educated at Ardrossan Academy and enlisted in 1916. He obtained a commission a year later."

same publication, day, date:- "Deaths on Service. MILLER.- Killed in action on 14th March, James Brand Scott Miller, Second Lieutenant, R.G.A., aged 27 years, fourth son of the late Mr and Mrs Thomas Miller, 13, Springvale Street, Saltcoats."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:21 am    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - William Campbell Reply with quote

CWGC Information

Name: CAMPBELL
Initial: W
Rank: Sapper
Regiment: Royal Engineers
Unit: 252nd Tunnellling Coy
Date of Death: 30/10/1918
Service no: 139361
Grave reference: XIV. B. 17
Cemetery: ROCQUIGNY-EQUANCOURT ROAD BRITISH CEMETERY, MANANCOURT

The Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald war and intimations databases have various entries for William which show
Date of death; 30/210/2928
Age: 26
Family: Son of Joseph; brother of Mrs William Russell, Rockyknowe, Saltcoats and John Campbell of 15 Alexandra Place, Kilwinning; uncle of Jessie and Annie Campbell

The record of soldiers died in the Great War shows William was born in Kilwinning and enlisted in Shotts, Lanarkshire. He was formerly S/6957 Seaforth Highlanders

Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald 22 November 1918

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:01 pm    Post subject: WW1 - 2nd. Lieut. Robert K. NEILL, Northumberland Fusiliers. Reply with quote

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Name: NEILL
First names: Robert Kirkpatrick
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers
Unit: 8th Bn
Age: 20
Date of Death: 16/08/1917
Additional information: Son of Mary Neill, of 60, Ardrossan Rd, Saltcoats, Ayrshire, and the late John Neill
Cemetery/Memorial reference: Panel 19 to 23 and 162
Cemetery: TYNE COT MEMORIAL

Robert is the brother of Thomas W R Neill also on the memorial

Robert and Thomas are also on the Ardrossan Academy Memorial


The Glasgow Herald, Saturday, 25th August, 1917.
"CASUALTIES Notes on Officers NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
Mr. R. K. NEILL.-
Killed. Intimation was received by Mrs Neill, Ardrossan Road, Saltcoats, that her third son, Second Lieutenant R. K. Neill, Northumberland Fusiliers, has been killed in action. He was 21 years of age and prior to the war was in the office of Messrs. Reid and Mair, St. Vincent Place, Glasgow. He joined the army in October, 1915, and after undergoing a course in the Inns of Court Officers Training Corps he was gazetted in February. He went to the front a few weeks later and was home on leave recently. His elder brother, Lieutenant T. Neill, was killed in action over a year ago."

Same publication, day, date:- "Deaths on Service. NEILL.- Killed in action on 16th August, Robert Kirkpatrick Neill, Second Lieut., aged 21 years, third son of the late John Neill, Skeoch, Mauchline, and Mrs Neill, 60 Ardrossan Road, Saltcoats."


1901 Census Ayrs., Saltcoats, 60, Ardrossam Road, recorded (transcription):- Robert K. Neill (4), born Tarbolton; John Neill (56), Provision Merchant, born Tarbolton; Mary Neill (36), wife, born Irvine; Thomas R. Neill (7), born Tarbolton.

No Neill's listed at Tarbolton War Memorial.

SNWM - WW1
Surname NEILL
Forename Robert Kirkpatrick
Rank T/2nd Lieut
Service number
Decoration
Place of birth Mauchline
Date of death 16 August 1917
Theatre of death Unknown
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Unit name THE NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS.
Other detail 8th Bn. (Reserves att.).

Not listed at Mauchline War Memorial either ........

Service 1) Soldier Number:7875, Rank: Private, Corps: Inns of Court Officers Training Corps.
Service 2) Rank: Second Lieutenant, Corps: Northumberland Fusiliers.

Medal index ticket:- http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4232204
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:07 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - George McClughan Reply with quote

CWGC Information

Name: McCLUGHAN
First name: George
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Field Artillery
Unit: "B" Bty. 186th Bde
Age: 32
Date of Death: 11/06/1918
Service no: 228109
Additional information: Son of John and Essie McClughan, of Co. Down; husband of Rebecca McClughan, of Magherasaul, Co. Down
Grave reference: VI. J. 4A
Cemetery: MONT HUON MILITARY CEMETERY, LE TREPORT

The service record for George when he joined the Territorials in 1912 shows that he was working for Nobels Explosive Coy, Chemical Row, Stevenston and enlisted at Ardrossan. His next of kin was his mother living in Magherasaul, Co. Down. The service record has the surname spelling as "McLUGHAN"

George is on the "Ireland's Memorial records 1914-1918" as follows
"McLUCHAN, GEORGE. Reg. No. 228109. Rank, Gunner, Royal Field Artillery; died France, June 11, 1918; born Drunigollan, Co. Down"

Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald 21 June 1918


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:55 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - Lachlan J MacPherson Reply with quote

The 1901 census shows Lauchlan J and his parents Archibald and Caroline and his siblings - Christina(23); Barbara (26); Archibald (14); Caroline (12); Maggie Ann (9); Georgina (2); and a cousin Christina Fyfe (16 born United States) ; living at 16 Dockhead Street Saltcoats. His father was a wine and spirit merchant and Lauchlan aged 18 was an apprentice plumber. In 1911 the family were living at a house named "Dalmally" near Parkend Road, Saltcoats. Lauchlan was born at Laggan, Inverness shire.

A family tree on ancestry.com gives his date of birth as 31 August 1882.

The service records and the 1911 census have "John" - Lauchlan's middle name. He was employed for 7 years as an apprentice with Jas Hunter, Saltcoats and enlisted in Ardrossan. He was a Private in the 3rd Cameron Highlanders service number 12855. He was invalided from service because of "acute mania". He died on 4 September 1916 in Ayr District Asylum, his usual address was 60 Gladstone Road, Saltcoats. His death record shows occupation as "Private 3rd Battalion Lochiels Camerons formerly manager in Licensed Premises"
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: Saltcoats Memorial - James McMurtie Reply with quote

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CWGC Information

Name: McMURTIE
First name: James
Rank: Corporal
Regiment: Cameron Highlanders
Unit: 7th Bn
Age: 35
Date of Death: 28/06/1916
Service no: 17094
Additional information: Son of James and Jeanie McMurtie; husband of Mrs James McMurtie, of Kelvinhaugh, Whiting Bay, Arran.
Native of Saltcoats
Cemetery/Memorial reference: IV. B. 42
Cemetery: VERMELLES BRITISH CEMETERY


Also listed at the War Memorial Hospital, Lamlash, Arran (Whiting Bay panel):- http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=69858#69858

Some differences are posted there in records of where this man was actually born.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:00 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - Jesse Saunders Reply with quote

CWGC Informatiion

Name: SANDERS
First name: Jesse
Rank: Petty Officer
Service: Royal Navy
Unit: H.M.S. "Marmion"
Date of Death: 21/101/1917
Service no: 204542
Panel reference: 20
Memorial: PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

The Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald war database has an entry for Jesse showing "Ardrossan" and "of James Street, Devonport"

The Naval Casualties transcription shows Jesse date of birth as 9 August 1883 and his next of kin as wife Emily of 87 James Street, Devonport

The memorial has the name spelling "Saunders" but the newspaper and CWGC and Naval Information has "Sanders"

HMS Marmion was in collision with HMS Tirade in bad weather off Lerwick, Shetland Islands. Both ships were escorting a convoy across the North Sea. The Tirade suffered little damage but the Marmion foundered.

Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald 23 November 1917


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unveiled by the Marchiness of Ailsa on 27th May 1922.

A short clip of the unveiling can be viewed at the Scottish Screen Archive:

http://ssa.nls.uk/index.cfm

Reference number for the clip is 1329


Amazing clip. I was speaking to someone today who was at the unveiling of the memorial - Peter Reilly who celebrated his 100th birthday in Febraury this year. He well remembers the parade and ceremony
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Duncan Taylor listed may be this man. His great-great niece has been in touch and informed us he was born in Saltcoats. The 4th Regt South African Infantry was the South African Scottish.

He is listed on the SNWM roll but no place of birth is given so his inclusion will be because of his unit.

TAYLOR, D
Rank: Private
Service No: 19064
Date of Death: 09/10/1918
Regiment/Service: South African Infantry, 4th Regt.
Grave Reference: B. 20.
Cemetery: BEAUREVOIR BRITISH CEMETERY


The Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald intimations database has an entry for Duncan on 10 October 1919 in the "Memorium" section which states "Killed in France" " died 8 October 1918 nephew of family at 12 Springvale Street, Saltcoats"

The register of soldiers effects shows Duncan's effects were forwarded to "High Commission Union of South Africa" for "disposal"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - Alexander Scobie Reply with quote

The record of soldiers effects shows Alexanders war gratuity paid to his widow Jean and there is a stamp attached saying "Died after discharge"

The death record at scotlandspeople shows Alexander Beaton Scobie, butchers salesman, army pensioner, died on 19 September 1918 at 23 Chapelwell Street, Saltcoats of tubercular disease of the spine. His parents were George, railway labourer, and Martha, nee Milligan, both deceased. His wife is recorded as Jeanie Forbes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:41 am    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - John Lockhart Reply with quote

CWGC Information

Name: LOCKHART
First name: John
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment: Cameron Highlanders
Unit: 1st Bn
Age: 25
Date of Death: 22/12/1914
Service no: S/12856
Additional information: Son of Mrs Anne Lockhart, of 6, Robertson Crescent, Saltcoats, Ayrshire
Memorial reference: Panels 41 and 42
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL

Record of soldiers died in the Great War shows John was born in Stevenston and lived in Saltcoats
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:06 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - John Kelly Reply with quote

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Name: KELLY
Initial: J
Rank: Seaman
Service: Royal Naval Reserve
Unit: H.M.S. "Thorn"
Date of death: 20/02/1915
Service no: 3854/A
Grave reference: S.D. 434
Cemetery: ARDROSSAN CEMETERY

The "Royal Navy and Royal Marine War Graves Roll 1914-1919" shows John was born in Myross, County Cork, Ireland and his father initial J lived at Union Hall, Cork

The death records on scotlandspeople show that John was single, and died on board HM Ship "Pactolus" in Ardrossan Harbour. He was 24 years of age, and his parents were James Kelly, fisherman, and Norah Kelly, nee Connell. He died of "submersion and shock" There is a register of corrected entries for John which has the additional information that John's usual residence was HM Ship "Thorn" then in Ardrossan Harbour.

Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald 26 February 1915

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - Opening of the Memorial Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:27 pm    Post subject: Saltcoats Memorial - James McAulay Reply with quote

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Name: MACAULAY
First name: James
Rank: Private
Regiment: Australian Infantry A.I.F.
Unit: 36th Bn
Age: 27
Date of Death: 09/06/1917
Service no: 1950
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Macaulay, of 24, Meadowfoot, West Kilbride, Scotland
Grave reference: B 18
Cemetery: TORONTO AVENUE CEMETERY

The "Australian Imperial Force Embarkation Roll" and "Roll of Honour" show that James was killed in action; embarked on 4 September 1916 from Sydney on HMAT A15, Port Sydney; Age at embarkation 25; living at Verner Street, Coulburn, New South Wales; next of kin mother Margaret.

There are several family trees on ancestry with James and his family which show he was born on 1 February 1990 in West Kilbride; his parents married and in Saltcoats and his father died in Saltcoats

James is also on the West Kilbride memorial

Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald 27 July 1917

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