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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: ALVA Reply with quote

Alva - Clackmannan District
UKNIWM Ref no. 6029

The Alva war memorial is a stylised freestone celtic cross with a tall smooth shaft with wheel-head and celtic knotwork pattern carved on the face. The cross stands on a stepped pedestal and has a downturned bronze sword on the face of the shaft. There is alo the winged head of a cherub carved on the face of the pedestal. The commemoration and names of the dead are listed on bronze panels set on the faces of the pedestal. The monument stands on a raised, terraced enclosure in gardens on Beauclerc Street.




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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photos taken on a much better day.

The panels look as though they've been cleaned up.











And on the back

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone transcribed this memorial?

I was having a wee look and thought the small panel would be the WW2 casualties and the larger ones would be WW1 but I now think they're all mixed up! Either that or I'm having an off day!

If they're all mixed up (and I'm not having an off day), why would the ones in the small panel be separate from the rest?

Put me put of my misery somebody!

Anne
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne

I'd say the panel in the first photograph is WW2 names.

1. There are fewer names and 2. There are a few RAF ranks.

The other three panels follow each other alphabetically.

Probably what happened was the front panel was recast after WW2 and the text "In everlasting memory etc.. " which took up the whole plaque before was squashed into the top third.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that initially Adam (they're usually that way) but I picked out some of the more unusual names and they were WW1?

I'm away to have another go . . . . . Confused

Anne

Added later: OK - so I am having an off day! I have no idea what I was doing earlier but right enough, the small panel is WW2.

'Time for bed' said Zebedee!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Transcription of the Alva Memorial Reply with quote

Hello
I transcribed the Alva war memorial and maybe someone is interested in. It became a little bit long but I hope it works.

Wolfgang from Brunswick, Germany

In everlasting remembrance of
the men of Alva who gave their
lives in the Great War of 1914 – 1919
and the world war of 1939 – 1945

Remark: One metal panel with names from 1939 – 1945
and 3 metal panels from 1914 – 1919.

First panel 1939 – 1945
Left column:
Robert G. Armstrong, D.F.C. , Flt. Lieut.
John F. Boyd, Corpl.
James Brown, Corpl.
William J. McD. Brown, W. O.
Hugh Campbell, A. C. 2
John Campbell, S/Sergt.
John Campbell, Pte.
George C. Chalmers, Fus.
James Dewar, Gunner
John Drummond, Corpl.
William C. Ferguson, Sergt.
Norman Fotheringham, Sergt.

Center column:
Duncan G. Headrick, Chief En.
John Hill, Pte.
William Huggan, Pte.
Joseph T. Hutton, Pte.
Joseph Johnstone, Pte.
John H. Kendall, F/Sergt.
William Keith, Sergt.
George Lackie, A. C. 1
James Looker, Corpl.
John W. Mackie, O. L., F/Sergt.
John McGhee, Pte.
William McKenzie, Lce. Corpl.
Joseph Norris, Sergt.

Right column:
Hugh Nicol, A. C. 1
Henry Nolan, Pte.
Harry O’Neill, Guardsman
Thomas M. Paterson, Pte.
Arthur Purdon, Lce. Corpl.
John Rennie, Sergt.
A. Rutherford, Pte.
James Shanks, Sig.
William Stein, Pte.
John Stewart, Pte.
William Weir, Sergt.
Harry P. Willson, F/O.

Second panel 1914 – 1919
Left column:
Walter D. Aitken, Sergt.
John Allen, Lce. Corpl.
Arthur Aitken, Pte.
Frank W. Aitken, Pte.
Norman McKaitken, Pte.
Alexander Allen, Sapper
Alexander Anderson, Pte.
Alexander Anderson, Pte.
David Anderson, Pte.
David A. Anderson, Pte.
Thomas Anderson, Pte.
David C. Black, Major M. C.
David Bennie, Pte.
Alexander Blackwood, Pte.
Thomas Blair, Pte.
John Blyth, Pte.
Abraham Borthwick, Pte.
Walter Bowie, Pte.
Archibald Bradie, Pte.
Peter Bruce, Pte.

Right column:
W. D. Bruce, Pte.
William Bryce, Pte.
George Chapman, Sergt.
Collin Collins, Lce. Corpl.
Robert Crawford, Lce. Corpl.
William Cant, Pte.
John Carmichael, Pte.
George Coventry, Pte.
Hugh Diamond, Corpl.
Thomas Dolan, Corpl.
William Dawson, Lce. Corpl.
George Dawson, Pte.
John Dawson, Pte.
William C. Dawson, Rflm.
Alexander Denholm, Pte.
Patrick Diamond, Pte.
William Dobbie, Pte.
John Donaldson, Pte.
William Donaldson, Pte.
Thomas Drummond, Pte.

Third panel 1914 – 1919
Left column:
John Eadie, Sergt.
William Ellis, Corpl.
John W. Easton, Pte.
James Fox, C. S. M.
Robert Fotheringham, C. O. H. S
William Fair, Pte.
James D. Ford, Pte.
Alexander Ford, Pte.
John Foster, Pte.
George Fox, Pte.
Alexander Fraser, Pte.
Harry Fraser, Pte.
David Fyfe, Pte.
James P. Fyfe, Pte.
James Fyfe, Pte.
Robert George, M. M., Pte.
Andrew George, Pte.
William Gordon, Pte.
Robert Henderson, Lieut.
John Hunter, Lce. Corpl.

Center column:
Alexander Hamilton, Pte.
John Harrower, Pte.
John Heddleston, Pte.
John B. Hunter, Pte.
William Hunter, Pte.
George Hutchison, Driver
Andrew Hutton, Pte.
William Hutton, Pte.
George P. Irvine, Lce. Corpl.
William Irvine, Lce. Corpl.
Gilbert L. Johnstone, Major
John A. Johnstone, Lieut.
Andrew Johnstone, Sergt.
William Johnston, Lce. Sergt.
James Jackson, Pte.
James Johnstone, Pte.
George W. Jones, Pte.
Richard Kirk, Corpl.
Alfred H. Legrie, Pte.
Alfred Lloyd, Pte.

Right column:
James Looker, Pte.
William Lonsdale, Pte.
William R. Low, Pte.
John B. Michie, Lieut.
R. Rae McIntosh, 2nd Lieut.
John McKerracher, Sergt.
David Malcolm, Sergt.
John McDougall, Lce. Sergt.
Hector H. McArthur, C. & D. F. T.
Thomas McColl, Pte.
Alexander McDonnel, Pte.
James McKinnon, Pte.
Frank McLaren, Pte.
George McLaren, Pte.
Hugh McMullon, Pte.
John Mason, Pte.
George Masterton, Pte.
Thomas S. Minto, Pte.
Thomas Montgomery, Pte.
David Munro, Pte.

Forth panel 1914 – 1919
Left column:
John Nairns, Pte.
Harry Norman, Pte.
Peter Norman, Marine
John Ogilvie, Pte.
James P. Paterson, 3rd Air. Nec.
Robert Philp, Pte.
George R. Purdon, Pte.
George R. Purdon, Junr. Pte.
David A. Robb, R. S. M.
Thomas Ramsey, Corpl.
Robert Reilly, Pte.
John Robertson, Trooper
John Robertson, Pte.
John R. Robertson, Pte.
George Robertson, Pte.
Peter Roy, Pte.
John Rushton, Pte.
John Rutherford, Pte.
Lyon C. Russell, Pte.
Robert Stark, Pte.

Right column:
John Stenhouse, Gunner
David R. Tran, 2nd Lieut.
Robert Todd, Lce. Corpl.
John P. Thomson, Pte.
Alexander Troup, Pte.
Andrew S. Turnbull, Pte.
John Turnbull, Pte.
John Williamson, 2nd Lieut.
David Walker, 3rd Engineer
Robert Westland, Lce. Corpl.
James Wallace, Pte.
James Welsh, Pte.
John Welsh, Pte.
John Welsh, M. M., Pte.
John Whitehead, Marine
Andrew Yates, Pte.
Joseph Yates, Sapper
Alexander Young, Pte.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfgang

Many thanks for taking the time to transcribe these names and then join the forum to post them. Your help is much appreciated.

Kind regards

Adam
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Brunswick



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Alva memorial Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
Wolfgang

Many thanks for taking the time to transcribe these names and then join the forum to post them. Your help is much appreciated.

Kind regards

Adam


No thanks for this, Adam. I am glad to help and I also hope to get the help from the forum. I have this and that what makes me headaches.

Have a nice evening.

Wolfgang
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commemorated at Alva and at Hawick

BOWIE, WALTER

Rank:
Private
Service No:
275935
Date of Death:
23/04/1917
Age:
21
Regiment/Service:
Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders

1st/7th Bn.
Panel Reference
Bay 9.
Memorial
ARRAS MEMORIAL

Additional Information:

Son of Walter and Agnes Douglas Bowie, of 9, Loan, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:01 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. 1816 John ROBERTSON, Fife & Forfar Yeomanry Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Monday, 7th January, 1918.
"Deaths on Service.
ROBERTSON.
- At Alva on the 4th (sic) inst., the result of wounds received in action, Pte. John Robertson, Yeomanry, only beloved son of Mr and Mrs John Robertson (retired manufacturer) A?? - Funeral from 108, Stirling Street, Alva, to the cemetery on Tuesday first, 8th inst., at 2 o'clock afternoon; friends please accept this (the only) invitation."

CWGC - ROBERTSON, J.
Rank: Private.
Service No: 1816.
Date of Death: 05/01/1918.
Regiment/Service: Fife and Forfar Yeomanry
Grave Reference: C. 18.
Cemetery: ALVA CEMETERY
Additional Information:

SNWM - no trace.

Enlisted 13 November, 1913 at Stirling.
Expeditionary Force (Med) 7 September, 1915 - 1st November, 1915.
Wounded October, 1915 at Gallipoli.
Home 2nd November, 1915.
Medical discharge 1916.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link to Alva Cemetery (J. Robertson is on page 2):

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=402&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=alva&start=15&mforum=scottishwargraves
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: John Rushton Pte GH Reply with quote

John Rushton Private S/43187 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Alva,Clackmannan e Alva Age 23 Killed in Action Somme, France 06/09/1916 Son of Mrs. Rushton, of Sunnydale, Alva, Clackmannanshire, and the late Henry Rushton. Soldiers Effects: Father: Henry. Mother: Agnes. B Coy. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:40 pm    Post subject: Robert Stark Pte GH Reply with quote

Robert Stark Private S/43497 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders e Alva Age 19 Killed in Action Somme, France 06/09/1916 Soldiers Effects: Grandfather: Robert. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C
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Alexander Fraser Private S/41523 A Coy. 6th Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Alvah, Clackmannan. e Stirling Age 19 Killed in Action Pas de Calais, France 10/04/1918 Son of James Fraser, of Bath House, Alva, Clackmannanshire. Soldiers Effects: Fa: James. Bro: Thomas. Loos Memorial M. R. 19 Panel 115 to 119 AJ 30-05-18 P5: Alva
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Fotheringham, C. O. H. S.

Who he?????
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