The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

DelBoy · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:13 pm Post subject:

Anne, that's a good spot of the hill behind, it's definitely not in the same place as it was previously.

Derek.

Elsie · Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Baillieston

If you 'Google' Cumbernauld War Memorial - and go into Images - the second picture is very interesting - showing an old postcard of the Memorial in its original position with the metal fence around it.

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject:

Elsie

That's a great spot, many thanks for letting us know. It also proves the names are a later addition.

Kind regards

Adam

agasmith · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:56 pm Post subject: Cumbernauld War Memorial

Apparently the name wall and the current location are relatively recent (IE within last 50 years). My mum remembers it being at the bottom of Main Street and facing towards it, across from the Spur Hotel, on what is now the Wilderness Brae A8011. It's certainly been in it's current location for at least 20 years (as I remember going to Boys Brigade services there on Rememberance Sundays) but I think it was relocated in the late 1960's or early 1970's.

My great-granduncle's name is on the memorial, Private Frank McGuire, 10th Batallion Highland Light Infantry, who was killed at the Battle of Loos on 25th September 1915, at the age of 19. His body was never recovered. His name is also on a plaque at the Loos memorial in North-Eastern France, at Edinburgh Castle, and at the Royal Highland Fusiliers Regimental Museum in Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow.

Here's his Pic and Obituary from the Evening Times:

And here is one of the pages from the War Memorial dedication which I found recently in my grandfather's house (I'll have a look for the other pages):

David McNay · Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:30 am Post subject:

Some photos from a duplicate thread.

apanderson · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject:

Andrew CONNOLLY

Commonwealth War Graves Commission/Scottish National War Memorial:
Able Seaman
No: Clyde Z/4796
Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, Nelson Bn., Royal Naval Division
Date of Death: 15th February 1917
Age: 20
Additional information: Son of Michael and Margaret Connolly, 64 Allandale Cottages, Bonnybridge

Commemorated:
Thiepval Memorial, Pier and Face 1A
Bonnybridge Civic Memorial
Cumbernauld Civic Memorial (Listed as Private, R.N.D.)

UK Royal Navy & Royal Marine War Graves Roll: Andrew Connelly, Able Seaman, No. Clyde Z/4796, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, Nelson Bn., Royal Naval Division. Killed or died as a direct result of enemy action 15th February 1917. Location of grave not recorded. Relatives notified: Mother, Main Street, Cumbernauld.

UK Naval Medal and Award Rolls: Andrew Connelly, Able Seaman, No. C.Z/4796, Widower of Univ. Leg.(?) I.C. 337/1917*

1911 Census, Living at Allandale Cottages, Allandale, Bonnybridge, Falkirk
Father Michael Connolly, age 49, Labourer, Brickmaking, born Ireland
Mother Margaret Connolly, age 49, born Ireland
Brothers James Connolly, Labourer, Brickmaking, born Ireland
John Connolly, age 20, Labourer, Brickmaking, born Ireland
Sisters Catherine Connoly, age 16, born Ireland
ANDREW CONNOLLY, age 13, Scholar, born Ireland

*I have no idea what the references are on the UK Naval Medal and Award Rolls - I can post a cropped section of the page if anyone cares to have a look.

Bonnybridge Civic Memorial, see: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=87

Anne

anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:56 pm Post subject: Frank Beveridge Gordon

Frank Beveridge Gordon Sgt S/8124 8th/10th Gordon Highlanders b Carronshore,Stirling e Aldershot Age 22 Died of Wounds F&F 03/08/1917 Son of James and Margaret Gordon, of Cumbernauld, Dumbartonshire. Wimereux Communal Cemetery Fr 0064 Plot II Row P Grave 04
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: George Whyte

George Whyte Pte 5525 5th Gordon Highlanders b Cumbernauld e Falkirk Killed in Action F&F 13/11/1916 Soldiers Will 6 Pages. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C
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Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:15 am Post subject:

PTE. JOHN OLIPHANT, Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders.

Named on the Kirkmichael Parish War Memorial in Dumfriesshire as:

PTE. JOHN OLIPHANT, A.&S.H.
John Oliphant – age 21 – Private (40662) 1/8th (Argyllshire) Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
John was an under-gamekeeper with Brigadier General Allan Burns of Cumbernauld in East Dunbartonshire when he enlisted as Private (3124) in the 1/9th (Dunbartonshire) A&SH in November 1914. He served with the 10th Battalion before he was transferred to the 1/8th A&SH. He was wounded in April 1917 and was killed five months later.
Born 1895 in Aberdalgie, Perthshire. Son of John Wilson Oliphant (forrester) and Grace (Forbes) Oliphant of Milngate, Kirkmichael and of Cairnpark, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Missing in Action on 20 September 1917 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.
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Ken

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:27 am Post subject:

The Kirkintilloch Gazette of 23/11/1917 has:

All the four gamekeepers the Cumbernauld estate went off to serve their King and country, and it sad to think that with the death of Pte John Oliphant, A. & S.H., three now lie buried in France, while the fourth has been discharged owing to wounds, having lost three lingers off his right hand. Pte Oliphant had previously been wounded and had spent a few months in hospital, but had returned to the Front. Three years ago he enlisted, being then underkeeper. He belonged to Amisfield, Dumfriesshire, and was about 22 years age. The others who have fallen are James Earsman and Scout M'Cabe.
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Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 3:04 pm Post subject:

stuartn · Joined: 13 Dec 2016 Posts: 2551

WMR 76241.

Amazingly this is the first memorial which WMR have registered in Cumbernauld.

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Cumbernauld War Memorial